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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 20 2013 22:34 GMT
#1541
On January 21 2013 07:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lol I'm in a sushi bar not giving much of a fuck, I was trying to remind myself to log out too :p

As for grush, I don't think his vote is necessarily where his mouth is, unless I'm remembering incorrectly.
I think you are remembering incorrectly then : /
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 20 2013 22:36 GMT
#1542
hapa, seriosuly u literally did nothing this whole game, and notice how he doesn't refute it he just edits my post pulling the ol' scum strawman argument. You are absolutely nothing alike in your town games.
##Unvote
##Vote: HapaHauli
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 20 2013 22:37 GMT
#1543
On January 21 2013 07:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 07:24 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:12 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:07 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yeah I thought so bugs. Xata or jay, your assistance would be greatly appreciated in the kill lazermonkey endeavor.
Hopeless, you realise that a good move as town would be to actually give YOUR reads on ALL people in this situation?

After the responses I've been getting all game? Nah I'll be indignant and obnoxious thank you. Less rage inducing for me.
Wait, you don't care about the game? But then why take the time to even post this? Why take the time to write a case on both me and Hapa? It doesn't actually matter about what response you will get. Its not only about you avoiding to get lynched anymore but also about you giving town reads we can trust to 100%.

If the town can't figure out my town reads based on my filter when I flip...I just... I don't even. I'm not kind of scummy on you and hapa, you're strong reads, so giving town reads on the rest of the player base is redundant
Some of your town reads are from daaays ago. And for some of them you don't even give any reasoning what so ever. That isn't very helpfull at all. Do you think you are helping town by just sitting here doing jack shit instead?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 20 2013 22:39 GMT
#1544
On January 21 2013 07:36 grush57 wrote:
hapa, seriosuly u literally did nothing this whole game, and notice how he doesn't refute it he just edits my post pulling the ol' scum strawman argument. You are absolutely nothing alike in your town games.
##Unvote
##Vote: HapaHauli
If hopeless flips scum(I'm guessing you still think he is scum), do you think Hapa is scum still? You know Hapa is like the very reason Hopeless is getting lynched right now...
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 20 2013 22:41 GMT
#1545
On January 21 2013 07:36 grush57 wrote:
hapa, seriosuly u literally did nothing this whole game, and notice how he doesn't refute it he just edits my post pulling the ol' scum strawman argument. You are absolutely nothing alike in your town games.
##Unvote
##Vote: HapaHauli


Why would I refute it? It should be plainly obvious that isn't the truth if you've bothered to read anything I posted on Hopeless over the last few days.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 20 2013 22:42 GMT
#1546
Votecount:

Hopeless1der (5): Hapahauli, Xatalos, jaybrundage, Lazermonkey, wherebugsgo
Lazermonkey (3): Hopeless1der, iamperfection, MrZentor
Hapahauli (1): grush57


Currently, Hopeless1der is set to be lynched!
~1 1/4 hours remaining until deadline.

A backwards poet writes inverse.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 20 2013 22:42 GMT
#1547
On January 21 2013 07:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 07:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:24 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:12 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:07 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yeah I thought so bugs. Xata or jay, your assistance would be greatly appreciated in the kill lazermonkey endeavor.
Hopeless, you realise that a good move as town would be to actually give YOUR reads on ALL people in this situation?

After the responses I've been getting all game? Nah I'll be indignant and obnoxious thank you. Less rage inducing for me.
Wait, you don't care about the game? But then why take the time to even post this? Why take the time to write a case on both me and Hapa? It doesn't actually matter about what response you will get. Its not only about you avoiding to get lynched anymore but also about you giving town reads we can trust to 100%.

If the town can't figure out my town reads based on my filter when I flip...I just... I don't even. I'm not kind of scummy on you and hapa, you're strong reads, so giving town reads on the rest of the player base is redundant
Some of your town reads are from daaays ago. And for some of them you don't even give any reasoning what so ever. That isn't very helpfull at all. Do you think you are helping town by just sitting here doing jack shit instead?
EBWOP: And what do you say about the last scum? you said some time ago that you thought that Xata was scum with me and Hapa. Do you still stand by this?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 20 2013 22:43 GMT
#1548
On January 21 2013 07:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 07:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:24 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:12 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:07 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yeah I thought so bugs. Xata or jay, your assistance would be greatly appreciated in the kill lazermonkey endeavor.
Hopeless, you realise that a good move as town would be to actually give YOUR reads on ALL people in this situation?

After the responses I've been getting all game? Nah I'll be indignant and obnoxious thank you. Less rage inducing for me.
Wait, you don't care about the game? But then why take the time to even post this? Why take the time to write a case on both me and Hapa? It doesn't actually matter about what response you will get. Its not only about you avoiding to get lynched anymore but also about you giving town reads we can trust to 100%.

If the town can't figure out my town reads based on my filter when I flip...I just... I don't even. I'm not kind of scummy on you and hapa, you're strong reads, so giving town reads on the rest of the player base is redundant
Some of your town reads are from daaays ago. And for some of them you don't even give any reasoning what so ever. That isn't very helpfull at all. Do you think you are helping town by just sitting here doing jack shit instead?

Please look at the way Lazer is pushing me here. There are a finite number of scum in the game. I STRONGLY believe I've pegged two. At most I've missed one. Lazer's accusations suggest I need to give extensive town reads because they'll be beneficial. Bullshit. My town reads are inherent in the fact that they aren't scumreads. The current "exception" is xata/bugs. I think the scumteam is LM Hapa WBG at the moment.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 20 2013 22:50 GMT
#1549
On January 21 2013 07:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 07:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:24 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:12 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:07 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yeah I thought so bugs. Xata or jay, your assistance would be greatly appreciated in the kill lazermonkey endeavor.
Hopeless, you realise that a good move as town would be to actually give YOUR reads on ALL people in this situation?

After the responses I've been getting all game? Nah I'll be indignant and obnoxious thank you. Less rage inducing for me.
Wait, you don't care about the game? But then why take the time to even post this? Why take the time to write a case on both me and Hapa? It doesn't actually matter about what response you will get. Its not only about you avoiding to get lynched anymore but also about you giving town reads we can trust to 100%.

If the town can't figure out my town reads based on my filter when I flip...I just... I don't even. I'm not kind of scummy on you and hapa, you're strong reads, so giving town reads on the rest of the player base is redundant
Some of your town reads are from daaays ago. And for some of them you don't even give any reasoning what so ever. That isn't very helpfull at all. Do you think you are helping town by just sitting here doing jack shit instead?

Please look at the way Lazer is pushing me here. There are a finite number of scum in the game. I STRONGLY believe I've pegged two. At most I've missed one. Lazer's accusations suggest I need to give extensive town reads because they'll be beneficial. Bullshit. My town reads are inherent in the fact that they aren't scumreads. The current "exception" is xata/bugs. I think the scumteam is LM Hapa WBG at the moment.
Dude, I'm not even pushing you any longer. I am saying that it is insanely likely that you will die in about one hour and IF you for some reason actually is town instead of scum, the good news for us is that we know everything you have said has been comming from a townie.

If you actually want town to win, you should have realised that by now and start to read filters in order to give out as good reads of every player in the game as you possibly can. You haven't lost the game just because you got lynched and helping us by giving out reads to the best of your ability should be your priority 1 right now.

But owell, If you dont feel like giving out reads, it means you are most likely scum anyways. And I don't feel like arguing with scum about stuff like this.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 20 2013 22:52 GMT
#1550
On January 21 2013 07:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 07:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:24 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:12 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:07 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yeah I thought so bugs. Xata or jay, your assistance would be greatly appreciated in the kill lazermonkey endeavor.
Hopeless, you realise that a good move as town would be to actually give YOUR reads on ALL people in this situation?

After the responses I've been getting all game? Nah I'll be indignant and obnoxious thank you. Less rage inducing for me.
Wait, you don't care about the game? But then why take the time to even post this? Why take the time to write a case on both me and Hapa? It doesn't actually matter about what response you will get. Its not only about you avoiding to get lynched anymore but also about you giving town reads we can trust to 100%.

If the town can't figure out my town reads based on my filter when I flip...I just... I don't even. I'm not kind of scummy on you and hapa, you're strong reads, so giving town reads on the rest of the player base is redundant
Some of your town reads are from daaays ago. And for some of them you don't even give any reasoning what so ever. That isn't very helpfull at all. Do you think you are helping town by just sitting here doing jack shit instead?

Please look at the way Lazer is pushing me here. There are a finite number of scum in the game. I STRONGLY believe I've pegged two. At most I've missed one. Lazer's accusations suggest I need to give extensive town reads because they'll be beneficial. Bullshit. My town reads are inherent in the fact that they aren't scumreads. The current "exception" is xata/bugs. I think the scumteam is LM Hapa WBG at the moment.
Dude, I'm not even pushing you any longer. I am saying that it is insanely likely that you will die in about one hour and IF you for some reason actually is town instead of scum, the good news for us is that we know everything you have said has been comming from a townie.

If you actually want town to win, you should have realised that by now and start to read filters in order to give out as good reads of every player in the game as you possibly can. You haven't lost the game just because you got lynched and helping us by giving out reads to the best of your ability should be your priority 1 right now.

But owell, If you dont feel like giving out reads, it means you are most likely scum anyways. And I don't feel like arguing with scum about stuff like this.

Its LYLO tomorrow. Town reads are meaningless.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 20 2013 22:52 GMT
#1551
Well, I'm not moving my vote away from Hopeless. Looks like many were moved by his case against Lazermonkey, but it's mostly just repeating dead townies' posts and WIFOMing. Not actually pointing out something genuinely new or worthwhile. I have to admit that Hopeless didn't just give up and die, which would have been the most scummy way to react, but his current actions aren't that much better.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 20 2013 22:53 GMT
#1552
EBWOP: Hopeless, you say you don't need to give out any town reads but I disagree. There are difierent types of town reads, strong and weak. Which players are most certainly town in your opinion? Which players looks town to you but could be scum? etc...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 20 2013 22:54 GMT
#1553
On January 21 2013 07:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 07:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:24 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:12 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:07 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yeah I thought so bugs. Xata or jay, your assistance would be greatly appreciated in the kill lazermonkey endeavor.
Hopeless, you realise that a good move as town would be to actually give YOUR reads on ALL people in this situation?

After the responses I've been getting all game? Nah I'll be indignant and obnoxious thank you. Less rage inducing for me.
Wait, you don't care about the game? But then why take the time to even post this? Why take the time to write a case on both me and Hapa? It doesn't actually matter about what response you will get. Its not only about you avoiding to get lynched anymore but also about you giving town reads we can trust to 100%.

If the town can't figure out my town reads based on my filter when I flip...I just... I don't even. I'm not kind of scummy on you and hapa, you're strong reads, so giving town reads on the rest of the player base is redundant
Some of your town reads are from daaays ago. And for some of them you don't even give any reasoning what so ever. That isn't very helpfull at all. Do you think you are helping town by just sitting here doing jack shit instead?

Please look at the way Lazer is pushing me here. There are a finite number of scum in the game. I STRONGLY believe I've pegged two. At most I've missed one. Lazer's accusations suggest I need to give extensive town reads because they'll be beneficial. Bullshit. My town reads are inherent in the fact that they aren't scumreads. The current "exception" is xata/bugs. I think the scumteam is LM Hapa WBG at the moment.
Dude, I'm not even pushing you any longer. I am saying that it is insanely likely that you will die in about one hour and IF you for some reason actually is town instead of scum, the good news for us is that we know everything you have said has been comming from a townie.

If you actually want town to win, you should have realised that by now and start to read filters in order to give out as good reads of every player in the game as you possibly can. You haven't lost the game just because you got lynched and helping us by giving out reads to the best of your ability should be your priority 1 right now.

But owell, If you dont feel like giving out reads, it means you are most likely scum anyways. And I don't feel like arguing with scum about stuff like this.

Its LYLO tomorrow. Town reads are meaningless.
Every person we have down as town is one less who could be scum. So I beg to differ on this point.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 20 2013 22:58 GMT
#1554
Btw MrZentor, don't you have absolutely anything to say? You're the only confirmed town here so you could easily push the discussion but you aren't even posting for a long time.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 20 2013 23:03 GMT
#1555
On January 21 2013 07:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 07:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:24 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:12 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 21 2013 07:07 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yeah I thought so bugs. Xata or jay, your assistance would be greatly appreciated in the kill lazermonkey endeavor.
Hopeless, you realise that a good move as town would be to actually give YOUR reads on ALL people in this situation?

After the responses I've been getting all game? Nah I'll be indignant and obnoxious thank you. Less rage inducing for me.
Wait, you don't care about the game? But then why take the time to even post this? Why take the time to write a case on both me and Hapa? It doesn't actually matter about what response you will get. Its not only about you avoiding to get lynched anymore but also about you giving town reads we can trust to 100%.

If the town can't figure out my town reads based on my filter when I flip...I just... I don't even. I'm not kind of scummy on you and hapa, you're strong reads, so giving town reads on the rest of the player base is redundant
Some of your town reads are from daaays ago. And for some of them you don't even give any reasoning what so ever. That isn't very helpfull at all. Do you think you are helping town by just sitting here doing jack shit instead?

Please look at the way Lazer is pushing me here. There are a finite number of scum in the game. I STRONGLY believe I've pegged two. At most I've missed one. Lazer's accusations suggest I need to give extensive town reads because they'll be beneficial. Bullshit. My town reads are inherent in the fact that they aren't scumreads. The current "exception" is xata/bugs. I think the scumteam is LM Hapa WBG at the moment.
Dude, I'm not even pushing you any longer. I am saying that it is insanely likely that you will die in about one hour and IF you for some reason actually is town instead of scum, the good news for us is that we know everything you have said has been comming from a townie.

If you actually want town to win, you should have realised that by now and start to read filters in order to give out as good reads of every player in the game as you possibly can. You haven't lost the game just because you got lynched and helping us by giving out reads to the best of your ability should be your priority 1 right now.

But owell, If you dont feel like giving out reads, it means you are most likely scum anyways. And I don't feel like arguing with scum about stuff like this.

Its LYLO tomorrow. Town reads are meaningless.


Scumreads are more useful than townreads, but townreads are more useful than no reads at all. Surely you could understand this if you were town.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 20 2013 23:12 GMT
#1556
Nah. This town deserves to lose. My filter is still there if you desire the path to victory.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 20 2013 23:18 GMT
#1557
Zentor's play really annoys me lol. I wish players like him didn't get useful roles, but sadly too many useless players take up slots in minis nowadays.

Jay is still afk, I recall him saying something about his Internet being fixed tmrw but that's pretty annoying too.

Meh. Let's just hope that hopeless flips scum, or then maybe we'll be looking a little bit hopeless :p
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 20 2013 23:18 GMT
#1558
On January 21 2013 08:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
Nah. This town deserves to lose. My filter is still there if you desire the path to victory.

## Unvote
## Vote Hopeless
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 20 2013 23:26 GMT
#1559
Votecount:

Hopeless1der (6): Hapahauli, Xatalos, jaybrundage, Lazermonkey, wherebugsgo, iamperfection
Lazermonkey (2): Hopeless1der, MrZentor
Hapahauli (1): grush57


Currently, Hopeless1der is set to be lynched!
34 minutes remaining until deadline.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 20 2013 23:29 GMT
#1560
On January 21 2013 07:36 grush57 wrote:
hapa, seriosuly u literally did nothing this whole game, and notice how he doesn't refute it he just edits my post pulling the ol' scum strawman argument. You are absolutely nothing alike in your town games.
##Unvote
##Vote: HapaHauli


So your current scumteam is Hapa, Lazermonkey, iamperfection? At least that's what I managed to translate from your filter. Your filter has very little reasoning though and absolutely nothing about why iamperfection is scum.

With that said, I don't like Hapa's play in this game either. He's barely even mentioned anyone but Hopeless since D1... I don't see both Hopeless and Hapa being scum though. If Hopeless happens to flip town, Hapa's scumminess level will rise significantly at the same time.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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