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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 21 2013 02:10 GMT
#1601
On January 21 2013 11:08 iamperfection wrote:
Your having a bad game hapa. Wrong about prom,rouch,and hopeless.

Lamp how about you whats your thoughts for who's scum?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
January 21 2013 02:14 GMT
#1602
You will have to wait not in the mood. And if the.pats don't come back I may commit suicide.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 21 2013 02:15 GMT
#1603
@ WBG

How did you go from this on grush:
On January 21 2013 07:12 DearestSnot wrote:
Notes:

Iff hopeless flips town, Xata, Jay, and Lazer look much much worse.

If hopeless flips scum, grush looks much worse.



To this:
On January 21 2013 09:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
yeah, pretty much. I don't see how he can be town in this situation. He chose to be on the "correct" side of the lynch by not voting Hopeless almost at the last minute. He had very convenient doubts at convenient times.

I'm not convinced Hapa is scum just based on Hopeless flipping town. Townies tunnel each other all the time. I'll reevaluate him but his arguments have been good and he has noticed things I would not expect scum to notice, so I doubt my read will change.

Zentor is 100% town unless someone decided to do something incredibly retarded, and iamp is pretty clearly town I think. That leaves grush and the non-Hapa Hopeless voters. I am town, that leaves you two and jay.

a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
January 21 2013 02:22 GMT
#1604
Because he is scum

Look at the other post that hope quoted just before he died.

That was a terrible and scummy post by wbg
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 21 2013 02:24 GMT
#1605
On January 21 2013 11:15 Hapahauli wrote:
@ WBG

How did you go from this on grush:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 07:12 DearestSnot wrote:
Notes:

Iff hopeless flips town, Xata, Jay, and Lazer look much much worse.

If hopeless flips scum, grush looks much worse.



To this:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 09:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
yeah, pretty much. I don't see how he can be town in this situation. He chose to be on the "correct" side of the lynch by not voting Hopeless almost at the last minute. He had very convenient doubts at convenient times.

I'm not convinced Hapa is scum just based on Hopeless flipping town. Townies tunnel each other all the time. I'll reevaluate him but his arguments have been good and he has noticed things I would not expect scum to notice, so I doubt my read will change.

Zentor is 100% town unless someone decided to do something incredibly retarded, and iamp is pretty clearly town I think. That leaves grush and the non-Hapa Hopeless voters. I am town, that leaves you two and jay.



I went back and reread after the flip, grush looks bad regardless of the flip.

At first I thought that perhaps he might look worse for defending a scum Hopeless, but he looks worse either way; the timing was too convenient.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 21 2013 02:25 GMT
#1606
Think about it, are all the scum going to be on the same candidate?

That's almost never true. I can't see any of the Hopeless voters being scum. That leaves grush plus whoever was on Lazer.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 21 2013 02:26 GMT
#1607
sorry, the Lazer voters, not the Hopeless voters
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 21 2013 02:48 GMT
#1608
On January 21 2013 11:22 iamperfection wrote:
Because he is scum

Look at the other post that hope quoted just before he died.

That was a terrible and scummy post by wbg


I get that the patriots are getting beaten down and whatnot, but mood isn't an excuse not to be explaining your reads.
+ Show Spoiler +
I HAD TO, YOU WERE ASKING FOR IT >>




@ WBG

On January 21 2013 11:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
Think about it, are all the scum going to be on the same candidate?

That's almost never true. I can't see any of the Hopeless voters being scum. That leaves grush plus whoever was on Lazer.


Good point. It doesn't seem likely that scum would go all-out to lynch a player like Hopeless. I'll have to look at grush and iamp some more, though Iamp has seemed really townie overall.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
January 21 2013 02:57 GMT
#1609
On January 21 2013 08:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
Votecount:

Hopeless1der (5): Hapahauli, Xatalos, jaybrundage, Lazermonkey, wherebugsgo
Lazermonkey (3): Hopeless1der, MrZentor, iamperfection
Hapahauli (1): grush57


Currently, Hopeless1der is set to be lynched!
10 minutes remaining until deadline.


all this vote count tells us this

5 guys voted for town hopeless
3 guys voted for lazer whose alignment we dont know
1 guy wasted his vote

and yet you come in with this

On January 21 2013 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
This is actually kind of confusing. If I'm wrong about some of my town reads, it makes Lazer the better lynch by far. Everyone has called both players scum but no one is really willing to defend either of them. On meta they both look bad. They're both easily lynched, though Hopeless seems to be resisting the lynch far more.

Lol there's pros and cons to lynching them both.

Convince me to vote. Most swaying arguments for either side will get my vote. I'll be around till deadline.


Why would you as town ever come in like that wbg???
shouldn't you be coming in either im not buying hopless crap he is still scum or nope im buying hopeless he looks town now i will vote for my other scum read lazer??????

and you also had this gem

On January 21 2013 04:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
I like dis.

The vote separation is really quite interesting. If Hopeless and Lazer are both town then it means nothing, but I don't think that's likely. Seeing as Lazer is the counterwgon to Hopeless it seems unlikely they are both scum too, unless Lazer is goon and Hopeless is RB or something stupid like that.

And if only one of them is scum, the votecounts tell the story!

Hapa, Xata, Jay: thoughts on killing Lazer?

You imply that you can figure peoples alignment just by voting trends????

Makes no sense do you even judge people by their content i thought hope was being extremely townie in the end and just stood by.

I find nothing interesting by the voting splits and i don't assume anything. Yet you make claims there probally both not scum based on associations pre flip i dont think that is a townie mindset wbg.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
January 21 2013 02:58 GMT
#1610
hapa explain why you only voted for town members this game i have it on good authority you are good at this game.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 21 2013 03:04 GMT
#1611
what are you talking about, you quoted me when the votecount was 5/5 and I was the deciding vote.

My talk about whether my town reads were wrong or not was me doubting Hopeless being scum over the fact that I found the voters on Lazer to be townier than the voters on Hopeless.

Tell me, how are you going to judge players this game by content when literally half the player base has done nothing?

Can you name something that grush has done? Or Zentor? Or Xatalos? Or jay? Or Lazer? Their contributions are nonexistent, there are only small things that you can come up with and they are pretty waffly either way. The only reason Zentor is town is because he is mason. The other 3? Who knows what they are. The votecounts are quite useful in this type of situation and far more useful than you make them out to be.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
January 21 2013 03:09 GMT
#1612
grush get in here and explain why you wasted your vote.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 21 2013 04:01 GMT
#1613
So, I had to go and figured that hopeless was going to get lynched so I put it on Hapa because he was scum.
WBG is scum, my plan was that if he still survived he is def scum because town wbg would of shot him, but it is super clear he is already scum at this point. If he was town he would of been shot any day over thrawn actually.
Hapa is also scum because he is lynching townies, not being him townie self, not doing anything really.
Lazer could very well could be scum as the 3rd.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 21 2013 04:01 GMT
#1614
*My plan was that if he survived till the next day he is def scum because scum would of shot town wbg
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 21 2013 04:02 GMT
#1615
Together iamperfection we will lead town to victory!
FOR STARSENSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 21 2013 04:18 GMT
#1616
it's been a long time since scum have shot me as town.

I'm not going to get shot tonight either since Zentor is confirmed town.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 21 2013 04:26 GMT
#1617
Yeah, but Zentor has done nothing
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 21 2013 04:27 GMT
#1618
If I was confirmed town would scum shoot me over a vet?
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
January 21 2013 04:27 GMT
#1619
On January 21 2013 13:02 grush57 wrote:
Together iamperfection we will lead town to victory!
FOR STARSENSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So in light of hopeless flipping town you now think im town?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 21 2013 04:32 GMT
#1620
On January 21 2013 13:27 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 13:02 grush57 wrote:
Together iamperfection we will lead town to victory!
FOR STARSENSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So in light of hopeless flipping town you now think im town?

Your latest posts are super townie to the max, plus 3 other people are super scummy, and I would put other people in front of you of being scum if that makes sense.
Also my scum read on you was a while ago and I changed the opinion about it, I just never wrote about it. I haven't posted much.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
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