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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 30 2012 01:32 GMT
#1441
On August 30 2012 10:31 Miltonkram wrote:
So this is where we all voteswitch at marvelbabe's behest, right?

I'm not going to let that happen. I'll DDOS his whole neighborhood if I have to.
Что?
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 30 2012 01:36 GMT
#1442
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836&currentpage=26#509
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836&currentpage=26#518
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836&currentpage=32#623
Based on a contrived 'scumslip' you 'Had me cold'

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836&currentpage=48#956
After obvious wagon you decide that I am definitely scum based on trying to get a no-lynch?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836&currentpage=52#1021
You vote me for 'martying myself'

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836&currentpage=52#1036
You decide my case on talis is ALSO a scumslip because I am not 100% positive.

I'm gonna stop there in your filter. There are 4 OMGWTFBBQ scumslips that you accuse me of, all of which are contrived. I hope you're scum, because this is terrible town play.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 30 2012 01:38 GMT
#1443
More and more I'm thinking a vigi shot on Shady could be a really good play for the town. It will become clear when I flip green.
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 30 2012 01:50 GMT
#1444
On August 30 2012 10:36 Lvdr wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836&currentpage=26#509
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836&currentpage=26#518
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836&currentpage=32#623
Based on a contrived 'scumslip' you 'Had me cold'

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836&currentpage=48#956
After obvious wagon you decide that I am definitely scum based on trying to get a no-lynch?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836&currentpage=52#1021
You vote me for 'martying myself'

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836&currentpage=52#1036
You decide my case on talis is ALSO a scumslip because I am not 100% positive.

I'm gonna stop there in your filter. There are 4 OMGWTFBBQ scumslips that you accuse me of, all of which are contrived. I hope you're scum, because this is terrible town play.


Are they really that contrived?

D1 VE pushed a pretty fast case on you. I ended up backing away from that because it wasn't comprehensive enough. I said "we had him cold" not "I had him cold"; I was confused as to why VE (who was the town leader at the time) had dropped you after nailing you the day prior.

After the obvious wagon that was the read on the situation. Otherwise your sheeping vote makes no sense. Town Lvdr would not sheep off BL and onto Obvious that quickly and with no explanation, especially when you didn't have a read on Obvious before.

Then you martyr yourself... ironic then because you voted Obvious, who was martyring himself, and also ironic now, because you are vigorously defending yourself to town rather than martyring yourself which you said you would do.

Finally, on your Talis case, you said you had a null read on him. Then you said maybe that was a scumread. Then you voted for him and said that you wanted to see what happens.

Then when he didn't get lynched, you re-voted him and didn't say "oh my read on Talis has changed to a scum read", but rather said "I want to reaffirm my previous scumread" which is a blatant lie since you never had a firm scumread on Talis to begin with. This would be fine if you were doing a lot of scumhunting already, but you weren't, so this seemed like an attempt by yourself to falsely claim you were.

After you did that, I dug through your filter, and the rest, as we will all soon say, is history.
Что?
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 30 2012 01:52 GMT
#1445
On August 30 2012 10:38 Lvdr wrote:
More and more I'm thinking a vigi shot on Shady could be a really good play for the town. It will become clear when I flip green.


Lvdr, if you flip green, town is in 4-3 LYLO. How you think a vigi shot on a possible townie in LYLO is a good idea is beyond me. But then again, if you're scum, you wouldn't really think about that now, would you?
Что?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 30 2012 02:00 GMT
#1446
f5f5f5f5f5
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 30 2012 02:01 GMT
#1447
The deadline has passed. Nightpost will be up momentarily. Please refrain from posting.
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 30 2012 02:04 GMT
#1448
Night 3: Reckoning


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For miles to the east and south, farther than the eye can see, lay Liquidia’s farms and pastures. In more peaceful times, this land and the people who worked it would be wholly unremarkable. In these tumultuous times however, the farmers and shepherds here carried the unique distinction of being immediately better off with the monarchists in hiding. Gone were the tax collectors, and tributes to the crown; every harvest was sold down to the last grain. With the revolution on, the people of Liquidia had taken to hoarding, and were happy to oblige the farmers by buying everything they brought to market.

This windfall was enjoyed first-hand by Lvdr, who had left the city to find work, and to put some distance between herself and the revolution. The thought of the scrutiny that she would have received had she stayed behind was terrifying; those with close ties to the monarchists were bound to be the first to hang, and she had worked for one as a maid for many years. With no means to travel cross-country, she had to hope that the country-side lived up to the reputations of it being an afterthought, and its people invisible, to those living in the city.

She would daydream often about the revolution. Her compulsion to support the cause was strong; few people knew the wickedness of the nobility as she did, and she had the scars on her back and wrists to put truth to those words. She dreamt of returning to the city, telling her story, and giving what information she had for the good of the revolution…but fear always stopped her.

Her refuge was an orchard; her largest responsibilities were to oversee the produce as it was taken to market, and find a buyer. The last trip was curiously lucrative; she dealt with a wholesaler she had never seen before, and the price offered for all her produce caused her eyes to narrow; it was as if this man was a swindler of some kind, but she couldn’t make out how. Against her better judgment, she consented to sell.

Unbeknownst to her, someone had been watching. Shady Sands gathered other town leaders, and paid her a visit at the orchard.

“Conspiracy,” he said to Lvdr, when they stood face to face, “you have been conspiring with the wholesalers to provide food to the monarchists in hiding.”

“That is a lie! You haven’t any proof, I’m certain of it!” she said.

“The man you dealt with is missing, and your apples sold for far more than they’re worth.” He drew a deep breath, in preparation for the large amount of damning evidence he had accumulated. “I’ve spoken to the Merchant’s Guild, and they could not account for this man with any certainty. More, we spoke to a former associate of yours. The cook, employed in the same house of villainy that you were, told us much of your close relationship with the head of the household. This is more than enough proof, and the town will see you hanged.”

Lvdr argued with them, trying to explain how the Merchant’s Guild can’t account for half of their number even on a good day, how her employer had beaten, scolded, and abused her mercilessly, and how the cook would lie about his own mother if he thought it would save his skin. It fell on deaf ears.

When they arrived at the gallows, marvellosity greeted them, looking perplexed.

“Something doesn’t seem right,” he said, “there is more going on here than we are aware of.”

“She is guilty and she will be hanged. Now move aside,” said Shady Sands as he led Lvdr up to the noose.

Marvellosity tried to quickly think of a retort. “Talismania likes apples,” was all he could manage before the trapdoor opened beneath Lvdr’s feet.

Lvdr, as Juliette Binoche the Vanilla Townie, was lynched!

Role PM:
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to Normal Mafia III, you are a Glorious Revolutionary. Your name is Juliette Binoche and you used to be a maid in the service of a local noble. No more will you endure the beatings, untoward advances and harassment. Never again will the noble's children get to go to fancy schools while yours fight off starvation. From this day forward those monarchists will pay for their crimes, with interest.


Final votes:
+ Show Spoiler +
iamperfection (0):
Shady Sands

Chezinu (1):
Bluelightz
Djagulingu

Djagulingu (0):
Kville
iamperfection

Lvdr (6):
Chezinu
Shady Sands
Kville
talismania
Djagulingu
Miltonkram
Lvdr

talismania (3):
marvellosity
iamperfection
Lvdr
Lvdr
Djagulingu


_________________________________________________

It is now Night 3. You have 24 hours to send in night actions. Please remember to send them to both GMarshal and myself. Also, I will be going back and editing in Role PMs for our previous flips, so have a look.
ATOBTTR
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 30 2012 02:06 GMT
#1449
shocking!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 30 2012 02:07 GMT
#1450
Shit.
Что?
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 30 2012 02:08 GMT
#1451
Someone PM me obs thread
Kville
Profile Joined May 2010
United States173 Posts
August 30 2012 02:11 GMT
#1452
So it begins.
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 30 2012 02:18 GMT
#1453
Ok town, here are my reactions off the lynch:

First, I apologize to everyone here (and Lvdr) for tunneling him so hard. I honestly thought we had a scum. Second, if scum saved up 2kp town is facing LYLO tomorrow; if not, MYLO. Either way, the road ahead is going to suck.

Third, I have a few more reads coming up. I will be digging through Marv's, DJ's, IamP's and Chez's filters.

Also, KVille needs to better explain his Lvdr greenflip/DJ redflip theory.
Что?
Kville
Profile Joined May 2010
United States173 Posts
August 30 2012 03:52 GMT
#1454
So lets look at the facts here from my filter

Me on Day 2 :
Honestly. im falling towards lvdr side. either you guys are reading to hard on this or some of you are just trying to get rid of town (scum).


Are we going to follow DJ's statement now and follow with a vote on Chez?
Lvdr lynch will give a big time info to us. If he flips scum, we're good. If he is townie, then we have all the reasons to suspect Chezinu.

But is was bait right?
The only reason I chose Lvdr to be the "bait"

Yet he still sheeped Lvdr at the end of day 3.
##Unvote
##Vote: Lvdr

This guy made this chain theory on Lvdr and Chez, yet he votes for talis and switches to Lvdr in the end? There can be some suspicions that talis is actually aligned with talis and that vote was just a "pump fake" to prove his innocence.
Whats een moer suspicious about his vote on Lvdr is the fact that he stated this.
On Lvdr though, he's my suspect #4.
If he is your 4 then why vote for him on D3 and stick with your #1,2,3? why go from 1 straigh tto 4 with little to no reason.
This kid is full of it, he made this "bait" excuse to buy himself time for the next day and you guys fell for it. Now what? are we going to kill chez becuase he of his statement on Lvdr turning green? Are we just going to kill another town and let scum take the advantage?

I warned you guys about this here:
what would happen if chezinu were to flip town as well? Your just making us vote town for scum. This is a pure scum play. Eliminating town after town.

And here:
if they were both to flip town(lvdr and chez)?
Well by then mafia would have taken a huge win so, I guess that was your strategy.

Everyone of my "mediocre" posts and theories are coming true step by step.
I knew Lvdr was town, it was blantantly obvious to me that he was being framed and pushed for a lynch. It is sad to see him go but he has provided the most useful information for us as town.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 30 2012 03:54 GMT
#1455
On August 29 2012 22:57 Bluelightz wrote:
I don't know, talis's post's seem's townie compared to his scum game in Pick Your Poison, granted in PYP he was active, but I dunno, I'll vote talis before I sleep though to consolidate (as I won't be there for the deadline, school started).

so what happened bluelightz spending time with the girlfriend?

On August 28 2012 12:19 Bluelightz wrote:
I got... RBed!


also why did you fell it neccesary to state this?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 30 2012 10:03 GMT
#1456
On August 30 2012 11:18 Shady Sands wrote:
Ok town, here are my reactions off the lynch:

First, I apologize to everyone here (and Lvdr) for tunneling him so hard. I honestly thought we had a scum. Second, if scum saved up 2kp town is facing LYLO tomorrow; if not, MYLO. Either way, the road ahead is going to suck.

Third, I have a few more reads coming up. I will be digging through Marv's, DJ's, IamP's and Chez's filters.

Also, KVille needs to better explain his Lvdr greenflip/DJ redflip theory.


you look into whatever the crap you want, but we're going to lynch talismania tomorrow.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 30 2012 10:04 GMT
#1457
On August 30 2012 12:54 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 22:57 Bluelightz wrote:
I don't know, talis's post's seem's townie compared to his scum game in Pick Your Poison, granted in PYP he was active, but I dunno, I'll vote talis before I sleep though to consolidate (as I won't be there for the deadline, school started).

so what happened bluelightz spending time with the girlfriend?

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 12:19 Bluelightz wrote:
I got... RBed!


also why did you fell it neccesary to state this?


Yes, BL disappearing is an absolute disgrace.

If he is town and was roleblocked, then of course he should claim he was roleblocked, however.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 30 2012 10:06 GMT
#1458
although good lord DJ's voteswitch looks bad.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 30 2012 10:09 GMT
#1459
On August 30 2012 12:52 Kville wrote:
I knew Lvdr was town, it was blantantly obvious to me that he was being framed and pushed for a lynch. It is sad to see him go but he has provided the most useful information for us as town.


I'm sorry, what? Day 3 and you're voting for someone who know is town? What the fuck is this??
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Kville
Profile Joined May 2010
United States173 Posts
August 30 2012 12:20 GMT
#1460
marvellosity United Kingdom. August 30 2012 19:09. Posts 4672 PM Profile Report Quote #
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On August 30 2012 12:52 Kville wrote:
I knew Lvdr was town, it was blantantly obvious to me that he was being framed and pushed for a lynch. It is sad to see him go but he has provided the most useful information for us as town.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



I'm sorry, what? Day 3 and you're voting for someone who know is town? What the fuck is this??


Don't even marv. Honestly im sick of your bull. That right there shows me how desperate you are looking for a player to lynch.

Also, note the fact on how affirmitive Marv is about lynching away from others

you look into whatever the crap you want, but we're going to lynch talismania tomorrow.


"we're"? as in us scum?
Yeah go ahead and try, but im pretty sure that town is tired of these charades.

Also note something else. See how passive aggresive he is towards DJ?

although good lord DJ's voteswitch looks bad.

literally don't understand why Dingaling just hopped wagons like that. This game makes no sense

This shows that there maybe something amist here, let me explain .
DJ bandwagoned Ldvr, only scums know who town is which explains marvs reaction towards DJs vote. Now marv is to smart to make such slips, so this was intentional. Marvs plan was to use this in order to get his name away from DJs mistake. So if DJs flips red it will be hard to track marv with it afterwards.

Yet he attacks others with stupid statements such as this
What the fuck is this??

you look into whatever the crap you want, but we're going to lynch talismania tomorrow.


He is quite confident to be putting pressure on everyone else but not DJ? cute isn't it?

i refuse to vote for talis tomorrow becuase i am tired of having "bandwagoning, lurking, and sheeping" being the main excuses for lynching. We have done it twice D1 and D3 both flipping town.
Note: that I never voted for obvious D1 and D2 had to be done or else it would have been a no lynch.

But here you go marv at the end of the post. PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS TOWN!

If talis was to flip green what then? Lvdr WOULD HAVE been the next lynch.
Now what would be the ratio after Day 4 lynch with BOTH talis and lvdr gone?
SCUM WOULD WIN.

Lvdr was the most strategic choice and would have provided the most information about what actually is going on here. There would have been no other leads if talis had flipped green. This lynch is the one that will save town from anymore mislynches.

TOWN PAY CLOSE ATTENTION! Scum will never vote on the same person. ONE has to be LDVR and ONE has to be on TALIS. It is possible for two to be one as well.
THIS IS THE REASON WHY THE VOTES WAS NOT ONESIDED! Not becuase of different views of play, becuase it is SCUM PLAY!
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