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eSpi.Casey
Norway54 Posts
On May 04 2013 12:10 Spicydinosaur wrote: I absolutley agree with thisHowever I'd like to add that we should be on the lookout for postings that simply mask for scum, those that add little to the discussion but give the illusion of participation. | ||
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jrkirby
United States1510 Posts
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nobodywonder
United States848 Posts
well i'll show you again that i am town with fearless lynching and analysis, i am not afraid. delicious cereal shall be safeguarded today! rejoice. @jrkirby what do you think about the lynch all lurkers policy? | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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nobodywonder
United States848 Posts
On May 04 2013 12:20 eSpi.Casey wrote: Hi everyone, looking forward to play with all of you. I will try to be as active as possible, and i hope everyone else will try aswell, even though im from Norway and following CET timezone i will try to contribute with good/analytic post as the game goes on I absolutley agree with this seems like a sheep casey, i realize this may be your first game, but do not just say agree or disagree, try to back it up with your thought process or etc so that people can get better reads. | ||
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nobodywonder
United States848 Posts
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
@espi - Being in a different time zone definitely adds difficulty so just try and do your best, give reads, and be reasonably active. In the end that's all we can really ask for from players. I know in a lot of newbie mini games it really suffers from 2-3 lurkers/replacements who hold back the game so I'd love to be able to avoid that. As far as active lurking goes - that's definitely something to watch out for. Posting without direction and cluttering the thread doesn't accomplish anything useful for town. I don't think it's 100% reliable though, although I guess none of the other 'common tells' such as being wishy-washy, apologizing/avoiding confrontation, sheeping etc. are. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On May 04 2013 12:47 calgar wrote: @nobody - I'm doing well, thanks. @espi - Being in a different time zone definitely adds difficulty so just try and do your best, give reads, and be reasonably active. In the end that's all we can really ask for from players. I know in a lot of newbie mini games it really suffers from 2-3 lurkers/replacements who hold back the game so I'd love to be able to avoid that. As far as active lurking goes - that's definitely something to watch out for. Posting without direction and cluttering the thread doesn't accomplish anything useful for town. I don't think it's 100% reliable though, although I guess none of the other 'common tells' such as being wishy-washy, apologizing/avoiding confrontation, sheeping etc. are. I would argue that those are not tells at all, usually mafia double and triple check their posts to sound as concise and not suspicious as possible. If some one was blundering/being unclear I would learn more towards them being town than mafia. | ||
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eSpi.Casey
Norway54 Posts
On May 04 2013 12:41 nobodywonder wrote: seems like a sheep casey, i realize this may be your first game, but do not just say agree or disagree, try to back it up with your thought process or etc so that people can get better reads. I think it pretty much said itself though, as you also say : We should all try to make post with good content. And not alot of bs with nonsense. | ||
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jrkirby
United States1510 Posts
On May 04 2013 12:38 nobodywonder wrote: @jrkirby good pickup, yes, but not really..its the nobody principle, i am a powerful wizard who will always roll vanilla. well i'll show you again that i am town with fearless lynching and analysis, i am not afraid. delicious cereal shall be safeguarded today! rejoice. @jrkirby what do you think about the lynch all lurkers policy? What I'd prefer is not to have lurkers. But I think we should lynch whoever we think is scum, and lurking contributes towards scumread in my book. | ||
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On May 04 2013 12:44 nobodywonder wrote: Can you explain this post - I'm confused what you mean since you haven't voted? Also for the future, I think avoiding 1-liners is best because they take up a lot of space and clutter filters.just voted a lurker for now, see how Sugarfluff responds @vayne - Most definitely, which is why i used the ' ' marks around common tells. When they become common they don't carry as much weight anymore because scum are very aware of them and can purposely use or not use them. Having said that, I think it's still worth looking at because they all boil down to actions that aren't in the best interest of town. Town never wants to clutter, to ramble without pressuring, or to lack purpose. Town doesn't want to avoid conflicts; they want to create them to get better reads and opinions on people and flush out scum. So they have some use but they aren't a silver bullet is my point. I disagree with your first point - the the lynch definitely isn't down to "pure guess" by any means. It's up to town to look under rocks and dig up solid leads in order to make a solid lynch choice. Don't downplay the power of logic and pressure to reveal scum. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On May 04 2013 11:27 calgar wrote: I'll start off by talking about a lurker lynch policy. I think it's beneficial to have a threat to lynch highly inactive players to try and force activity. In several past games lynching into the lurkers gave much better odds of hitting scum than the odds would be otherwise. Having said that, it's just a policy and obviously we should all pressure conversation, pursue reads, and lynch someone a better target if it comes about. I say Yes to a Lynch Lurker Policy. So far no one else has really said whether they're for or against the policy. Just some generic "Lurking is bad" posts. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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jampidampi
Finland386 Posts
On May 04 2013 12:38 VayneAuthority wrote: this will be rough considering it is a no clue game. First day of lynching is just purely a guess at this point, ill probably get the ball rolling later once I see some more posts Why post something like this instead of trying to create discussion? On May 04 2013 12:10 Spicydinosaur wrote: Hey all, looking forward to a fun game. I agree with the general notion that lurking should be dissuaded and active posting should be encouraged. However I'd like to add that we should be on the lookout for postings that simply mask for scum, those that add little to the discussion but give the illusion of participation. Like this post of yours? I'm not sold on policy lynching. If we agree to policy lynch, it creates an easy way for scum to mask themselves in the town. And if we agree on a policy, scum can just avoid doing whatever we policy lynch for. Like just posting a bit more than the lurkiest lurker. What I suggest is leaving lurkers for our blues to handle. Scummy lurkers are shot by vigis, null lurkers are checked by cops, towny lurkers are not are a big concern. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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jrkirby
United States1510 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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jampidampi
Finland386 Posts
But lets move away from policy discussion. I want to discuss VayneAuthority. He's just popping in and out stating that he needs more information. But he ain't doing nothing to get that information. Vayne isn't trying to start discussion. He isn't asking any questions. Just excusing not doing anything at the start. Vayne says that first day lynching is "purely a guess" but he's doing nothing to change the fact that it's a guess. He isn't trying to figure other's alingments out. But the question remains: is he a disinterested townie who doesn't know how to play on day one or is he a scummer? | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
VOTE COUNT: Sugarfluff (2) nobodywonder, jampidampi Not Voting: All the other cereals. Breakfast is in ~40 hours. Voting is mandatory. Currently Sugarfluff is set to be lynched! If you see your vote (or anyone else') out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it. | ||
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