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Well, I'm unvoting Sugarfluff for now since there's some content right now, time to read and analyze...
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On May 04 2013 15:08 jampidampi wrote:Yes, rolled town again. Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 12:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
this will be rough considering it is a no clue game. First day of lynching is just purely a guess at this point, ill probably get the ball rolling later once I see some more posts Why post something like this instead of trying to create discussion? Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 12:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey all, looking forward to a fun game. I agree with the general notion that lurking should be dissuaded and active posting should be encouraged. However I'd like to add that we should be on the lookout for postings that simply mask for scum, those that add little to the discussion but give the illusion of participation. Like this post of yours? I'm not sold on policy lynching. If we agree to policy lynch, it creates an easy way for scum to mask themselves in the town. And if we agree on a policy, scum can just avoid doing whatever we policy lynch for. Like just posting a bit more than the lurkiest lurker. What I suggest is leaving lurkers for our blues to handle. Scummy lurkers are shot by vigis, null lurkers are checked by cops, towny lurkers are not are a big concern.
what exactly was there to discuss 3 posts in? This is how I always play, I only will be convinced after the first day in a no clue game. If you guys don't like how I play then I guess I wont be in this game very long, pretty much all there is to it.
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On May 05 2013 02:22 jrkirby wrote:
Well sugarfluff has stopped lurking, so the votes on him are kinda pointless. As targe pointed out, flowcaster is lurking, and also I notice shirokami is lurking, but he try to give an excuse at least.
@jrkirby, what do you think of sugarfluff's posting so far?
On May 04 2013 17:14 Sugarfluff wrote:Yes! Awesome feeling, waking up and knowing the PM is in my inbox! Less awesome to have some votes. ^^ Anyway, I was going to throw my vote right back at nobodywonder, but I feel VayneAuthority is slightly suspicious. Wrong lynching is obviously bad but mafia can use the extra, safe time to more effect I think. Time to get breakfast and ponder. 
@sugarfluff, who are your scumreads then? who are you thinking of voting?
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So far all I can tell is that this is either going to be an easy mafia victory or the mafia is giving themselves away on the first day and are indeed newbies. Guess we will find out soon enough.
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On May 05 2013 02:34 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 15:08 jampidampi wrote:Yes, rolled town again. On May 04 2013 12:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
this will be rough considering it is a no clue game. First day of lynching is just purely a guess at this point, ill probably get the ball rolling later once I see some more posts Why post something like this instead of trying to create discussion? On May 04 2013 12:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey all, looking forward to a fun game. I agree with the general notion that lurking should be dissuaded and active posting should be encouraged. However I'd like to add that we should be on the lookout for postings that simply mask for scum, those that add little to the discussion but give the illusion of participation. Like this post of yours? I'm not sold on policy lynching. If we agree to policy lynch, it creates an easy way for scum to mask themselves in the town. And if we agree on a policy, scum can just avoid doing whatever we policy lynch for. Like just posting a bit more than the lurkiest lurker. What I suggest is leaving lurkers for our blues to handle. Scummy lurkers are shot by vigis, null lurkers are checked by cops, towny lurkers are not are a big concern. what exactly was there to discuss 3 posts in? This is how I always play, I only will be convinced after the first day in a no clue game. If you guys don't like how I play then I guess I wont be in this game very long, pretty much all there is to it.
or you can change your play and not die...this is highly recommended if you are town. you almost deserve to die if you don't contribute
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On May 05 2013 02:37 nobodywonder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 02:34 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 04 2013 15:08 jampidampi wrote:Yes, rolled town again. On May 04 2013 12:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
this will be rough considering it is a no clue game. First day of lynching is just purely a guess at this point, ill probably get the ball rolling later once I see some more posts Why post something like this instead of trying to create discussion? On May 04 2013 12:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey all, looking forward to a fun game. I agree with the general notion that lurking should be dissuaded and active posting should be encouraged. However I'd like to add that we should be on the lookout for postings that simply mask for scum, those that add little to the discussion but give the illusion of participation. Like this post of yours? I'm not sold on policy lynching. If we agree to policy lynch, it creates an easy way for scum to mask themselves in the town. And if we agree on a policy, scum can just avoid doing whatever we policy lynch for. Like just posting a bit more than the lurkiest lurker. What I suggest is leaving lurkers for our blues to handle. Scummy lurkers are shot by vigis, null lurkers are checked by cops, towny lurkers are not are a big concern. what exactly was there to discuss 3 posts in? This is how I always play, I only will be convinced after the first day in a no clue game. If you guys don't like how I play then I guess I wont be in this game very long, pretty much all there is to it. or you can change your play and not die...this is highly recommended if you are town. you almost deserve to die if you don't contribute
Showing up town and lynching the bandwagoners is enough of a contribution if it comes to that. Im used to being lynched day 1 since mafia fear logic and not emotional people.
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On May 05 2013 02:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
So far all I can tell is that this is either going to be an easy mafia victory or the mafia is giving themselves away on the first day and are indeed newbies. Guess we will find out soon enough.
this seems to ominous, I really dislike your mindset vayne. in the shitstorm of mafia XL that I was part of, town rallied after a couple of retarded lynches and plays (i myself am guilty). i just can't help but feel that you are kinda making excuses for not contributing. you are too early to call things, anyways you can work through filters and pages...again highly recommended as town
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@Vayne: If there was nothing to discuss you could have started a discussion. If you indeed play based on logic, you could start by creating material to analyse.
On May 05 2013 02:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
So far all I can tell is that this is either going to be an easy mafia victory or the mafia is giving themselves away on the first day and are indeed newbies. Guess we will find out soon enough.
What gives you this feeling?
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On May 05 2013 02:40 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 02:37 nobodywonder wrote:On May 05 2013 02:34 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 04 2013 15:08 jampidampi wrote:Yes, rolled town again. On May 04 2013 12:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
this will be rough considering it is a no clue game. First day of lynching is just purely a guess at this point, ill probably get the ball rolling later once I see some more posts Why post something like this instead of trying to create discussion? On May 04 2013 12:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey all, looking forward to a fun game. I agree with the general notion that lurking should be dissuaded and active posting should be encouraged. However I'd like to add that we should be on the lookout for postings that simply mask for scum, those that add little to the discussion but give the illusion of participation. Like this post of yours? I'm not sold on policy lynching. If we agree to policy lynch, it creates an easy way for scum to mask themselves in the town. And if we agree on a policy, scum can just avoid doing whatever we policy lynch for. Like just posting a bit more than the lurkiest lurker. What I suggest is leaving lurkers for our blues to handle. Scummy lurkers are shot by vigis, null lurkers are checked by cops, towny lurkers are not are a big concern. what exactly was there to discuss 3 posts in? This is how I always play, I only will be convinced after the first day in a no clue game. If you guys don't like how I play then I guess I wont be in this game very long, pretty much all there is to it. or you can change your play and not die...this is highly recommended if you are town. you almost deserve to die if you don't contribute Showing up town and lynching the bandwagoners is enough of a contribution if it comes to that. Im used to being lynched day 1 since mafia fear logic and not emotional people.
no, it's not. you need to contribute. for example, here's a bone for you
what do you think of sugarfluff's suscipion of you? what do you think of jampi's vt claim?
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On May 05 2013 02:45 nobodywonder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 02:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 05 2013 02:37 nobodywonder wrote:On May 05 2013 02:34 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 04 2013 15:08 jampidampi wrote:Yes, rolled town again. On May 04 2013 12:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
this will be rough considering it is a no clue game. First day of lynching is just purely a guess at this point, ill probably get the ball rolling later once I see some more posts Why post something like this instead of trying to create discussion? On May 04 2013 12:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey all, looking forward to a fun game. I agree with the general notion that lurking should be dissuaded and active posting should be encouraged. However I'd like to add that we should be on the lookout for postings that simply mask for scum, those that add little to the discussion but give the illusion of participation. Like this post of yours? I'm not sold on policy lynching. If we agree to policy lynch, it creates an easy way for scum to mask themselves in the town. And if we agree on a policy, scum can just avoid doing whatever we policy lynch for. Like just posting a bit more than the lurkiest lurker. What I suggest is leaving lurkers for our blues to handle. Scummy lurkers are shot by vigis, null lurkers are checked by cops, towny lurkers are not are a big concern. what exactly was there to discuss 3 posts in? This is how I always play, I only will be convinced after the first day in a no clue game. If you guys don't like how I play then I guess I wont be in this game very long, pretty much all there is to it. or you can change your play and not die...this is highly recommended if you are town. you almost deserve to die if you don't contribute Showing up town and lynching the bandwagoners is enough of a contribution if it comes to that. Im used to being lynched day 1 since mafia fear logic and not emotional people. no, it's not. you need to contribute. for example, here's a bone for you what do you think of sugarfluff's suscipion of you? what do you think of jampi's vt claim?
I claimed town, not vt.
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On May 05 2013 02:45 nobodywonder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 02:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 05 2013 02:37 nobodywonder wrote:On May 05 2013 02:34 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 04 2013 15:08 jampidampi wrote:Yes, rolled town again. On May 04 2013 12:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
this will be rough considering it is a no clue game. First day of lynching is just purely a guess at this point, ill probably get the ball rolling later once I see some more posts Why post something like this instead of trying to create discussion? On May 04 2013 12:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey all, looking forward to a fun game. I agree with the general notion that lurking should be dissuaded and active posting should be encouraged. However I'd like to add that we should be on the lookout for postings that simply mask for scum, those that add little to the discussion but give the illusion of participation. Like this post of yours? I'm not sold on policy lynching. If we agree to policy lynch, it creates an easy way for scum to mask themselves in the town. And if we agree on a policy, scum can just avoid doing whatever we policy lynch for. Like just posting a bit more than the lurkiest lurker. What I suggest is leaving lurkers for our blues to handle. Scummy lurkers are shot by vigis, null lurkers are checked by cops, towny lurkers are not are a big concern. what exactly was there to discuss 3 posts in? This is how I always play, I only will be convinced after the first day in a no clue game. If you guys don't like how I play then I guess I wont be in this game very long, pretty much all there is to it. or you can change your play and not die...this is highly recommended if you are town. you almost deserve to die if you don't contribute Showing up town and lynching the bandwagoners is enough of a contribution if it comes to that. Im used to being lynched day 1 since mafia fear logic and not emotional people. no, it's not. you need to contribute. for example, here's a bone for you what do you think of sugarfluff's suscipion of you? what do you think of jampi's vt claim?
two meaningless things that only emotional people would be bothered by. Logic is taking people's votes and the killings under analysis and making correct lynches based off them. PR roles also come into play here once people actually figure out what roles are in the game and have to attempt to convince people of what they know for sure.
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On May 05 2013 02:44 jampidampi wrote:@Vayne: If there was nothing to discuss you could have started a discussion. If you indeed play based on logic, you could start by creating material to analyse. Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 02:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
So far all I can tell is that this is either going to be an easy mafia victory or the mafia is giving themselves away on the first day and are indeed newbies. Guess we will find out soon enough. What gives you this feeling?
Creating imaginary evidence based on emotions is not logic. What gives me this feeling is that either the town is quick to bandwagon on anything, or the mafia are being stupid and casting all their votes on me early. When I come up townie you can immediately go back and analyze who started the suspicions on me and who bandwagoned.
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There's so much more to analyse than just voting and nightkills. It's not imaginary evidence. If the only thing that mattered where voting and nightkills, scum could just RNG their actions and screw up logic.
On May 05 2013 02:51 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 02:44 jampidampi wrote:@Vayne: If there was nothing to discuss you could have started a discussion. If you indeed play based on logic, you could start by creating material to analyse. On May 05 2013 02:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
So far all I can tell is that this is either going to be an easy mafia victory or the mafia is giving themselves away on the first day and are indeed newbies. Guess we will find out soon enough. What gives you this feeling? Creating imaginary evidence based on emotions is not logic. What gives me this feeling is that either the town is quick to bandwagon on anything, or the mafia are being stupid and casting all their votes on me early. When I come up townie you can immediately go back and analyze who started the suspicions on me and who bandwagoned.
How did you come to that conclusion?
Can you link some of your old games, or maybe all of them?
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this is mafia, and there is no spock. you are vayne, not spock.
besides, if you want to argue logic, derp herrrrr emotions are a hint on how to people think still. if you want to be logical, you have to take emotions into account.
anyways no more excuses. and why so suicidal? i'd be happy to oblige you though.
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^^ i second jampi
@vayne link us your old games plz.
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I played on epicmafia for years before it turned terrible, there is nothing to link. Hundreds or thousands of short games.
I played one game on teamliquid and I was mafia then so I can link that.
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On May 05 2013 02:36 nobodywonder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 02:22 jrkirby wrote:
Well sugarfluff has stopped lurking, so the votes on him are kinda pointless. As targe pointed out, flowcaster is lurking, and also I notice shirokami is lurking, but he try to give an excuse at least. @jrkirby, what do you think of sugarfluff's posting so far?
Nothing particularly suspicious yet.
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Why did you make another account? Based on your posts in that game you have analysed a lot more things than just raw facts (votes/flips/nightkills). What has changed?
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On May 05 2013 02:56 jampidampi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 02:51 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 05 2013 02:44 jampidampi wrote:@Vayne: If there was nothing to discuss you could have started a discussion. If you indeed play based on logic, you could start by creating material to analyse. On May 05 2013 02:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
So far all I can tell is that this is either going to be an easy mafia victory or the mafia is giving themselves away on the first day and are indeed newbies. Guess we will find out soon enough. What gives you this feeling? Creating imaginary evidence based on emotions is not logic. What gives me this feeling is that either the town is quick to bandwagon on anything, or the mafia are being stupid and casting all their votes on me early. When I come up townie you can immediately go back and analyze who started the suspicions on me and who bandwagoned. How did you come to that conclusion?
And answear this.
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