• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:23
CEST 08:23
KST 15:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-69SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)14Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE18
StarCraft 2
General
protoss aoe skill expression 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) StarCraft 2 at SC4ALL II Invite #3/8 - Clem Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 Data needed
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
The Clem Fan Club INnoVation Fan Club The Scarlett Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4518 users

Destiny released from Complexity - Page 7

Forum Index > SC2 General
1316 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 66 Next
It is highly recommended that your read this entire thread - at least until page 10. If you make uninformed opinions that have been answered by the thread, col management or Destiny, you will be banned.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
June 22 2011 21:01 GMT
#121
Destiny is much more popular and influential in the Starcraft 2 community than coL. Their loss.
Argolis
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada211 Posts
June 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#122
Good.
This probably won't impact Destiny in any major way. Besides brewing up more interest in him and his stream. He might actually be walking away from this more popular than he was before.

His income is based off of his streaming, which he has accomplished from day one without high profile tournament results or the help of a famous team/sponsors behind him.

Steven cannot and will not be part of a team that asks him to be politically correct. If this topic came up in any discussions and no agreement was made, this release was expected from both parties

Colonels has just gained an anti-fan.

Destiny
Profile Joined May 2009
United States280 Posts
June 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#123
Sorry, I don't want to start any drama or anything, so here's my quip of the story

TL:DR : I signed the contract, I broke the contact, that's a pretty douche move.

Basically there'd been talks of ROOT/Complexity merging for a while, to relieve stress from catz/drewbie, which is cool, it gives them more time to play, etc...

One day, I got a message pretty much saying "hey, that contract is due tonight, you gotta sign it today". I pretty much had half a day to decide whether or not to sign, and it seemed like if I didn't sign, the deal would fall through for the rest of the team. I didn't want to mess up everyone's opportunities to move on with their career just because I felt uncomfortable, and there was nothing -too- objectionable in the contract, so I signed it.

In the following days, I had more time to think about it, and the more I turned it over in my head, the more problems I found with the arrangement, and the more reasons I found not to be associated with a major business SC2 team, at least not at this moment in time. I talked a long time to Catz, and had a few words with Jason, and eventually settled on the conclusion that I wouldn't actually be joining.
To achieve perfection is to sacrifice growth.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
June 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#124
Sounds like they just wanted an excuse to get rid of him because he's not a top player.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Omnipresent
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States871 Posts
June 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#125
On June 23 2011 05:57 SovietHammer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 05:51 jlake02 wrote:
On June 23 2011 05:46 Enox wrote:
wow, destiny just found out about that himself on his stream. he didnt know... like wtf!? how can they announce it before informing him



I can assure you that I have personally spoken with Steven over the past week. I sincerely wanted him to remain on the team but we were given no real option. He refused to participate with the team. Also, it was our full intention on allowing him to speak his mind on his stream but within certain boundaries of professionalism.

I spoke with him personally before this was released and he knew it was coming.

I think he's a good guy but it just didn't work out at this time. I wish him the very best in the future.


We'll parts of this are clearly false. We obviously don't have perfect information but I watched destiny practice with a variety of col members on his stream throughout the last week.

"certain boundaries of professionalism." could mean anything. This pickup was in the midst of destiny very publicly announcing his beliefs on language, and if the contract was written without that in mind it was not intended to succeed in the first place.

Before you call someone a liar, take a step back. Occasionally practicing with teammates doesn't necessarily constitute participating with the team. You don't know what they asked him to do that he refused.
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
June 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#126
On June 23 2011 06:00 deerpark87 wrote:
Liquid`Destiny sounds about right


Are you kidding me...TL.net encompasses Destiny's portion of the pie...no point in contracting with him, especially because they're bigger than coL and therefore will be even more stricter about sponsors and such...plus Destiny is not that good of a pro player.
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
pavement ist rad
Profile Joined January 2007
United States226 Posts
June 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#127
I think a lot of people here are being unkind towards Destiny. Sure he has his attitude but if you listen to him speak he's quite well spoken and views his stream as his own personal domain. It seems that he is a reasonable and intelligent person otherwise. Plus, he's gotten way better recently. I mean, he's GM now and is doing well!
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
June 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#128
IIRC Destiny played decently at the last MLG? I dunno, he's definitely skilled enough to be on a decent team but his stream behavior probably destroys any of those chances :T
:)
Eduro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States88 Posts
June 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#129
Destiny's thoughts...

http://imgur.com/Wfc9g
ultramafia
Profile Joined August 2010
221 Posts
June 22 2011 21:03 GMT
#130
On June 23 2011 06:02 Argolis wrote:
Good.
This probably won't impact Destiny in any major way. Besides brewing up more interest in him and his stream. He might actually be walking away from this more popular than he was before.

His income is based off of his streaming, which he has accomplished from day one without high profile tournament results or the help of a famous team/sponsors behind him.

Steven cannot and will not be part of a team that asks him to be politically correct. If this topic came up in any discussions and no agreement was made, this release was expected from both parties

Colonels has just gained an anti-fan.



you said it. I will no longer support Colonels!!!
毒爆虫 | CJ Entus fight
Refused.
Profile Joined March 2011
United States108 Posts
June 22 2011 21:03 GMT
#131
So complexity goes from a mediocre NA team with some entertaining personalities to now just a mediocre team.

On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
June 22 2011 21:03 GMT
#132
On June 23 2011 06:00 tsuxiit wrote:
I wish Complexity would give a real explanation for why it didn't allow Destiny on the team. Just two nights ago on Destiny's stream (I believe Catz was streaming at the same time) I heard Cruncher call Catz a nigger faggot mexican beaner, as a joke. How can you kick out Destiny for not watering down his speech if you don't care about that? It doesn't sound like you're making your players into professionals, more like you're just hiding them from the public eye.


Did you even read the OP or any of the responses by col in this thread? It is more than just his language on his stream. He literally didn't do things that were in his contract. He blatantly ignored the terms of agreement he agreed upon when he joined the team. He broke his contract = bye bye.
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
June 22 2011 21:03 GMT
#133
On June 23 2011 06:02 AndAgain wrote:
Sounds like they just wanted an excuse to get rid of him because he's not a top player.


Might want to take another look at their full roster...
newnew008
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4 Posts
June 22 2011 21:03 GMT
#134
I wish Destiny and Complexity the best of luck. Though,I feel Complexity should have acted more professionally with this. They just released this post to the world, and Destiny wasn't even aware of it until his chat told him during the stream. Can't wait to see what team might pick him up.
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
June 22 2011 21:03 GMT
#135
Destiny never seemed to be a person who would censor himself for the sake of professionalism.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
June 22 2011 21:03 GMT
#136
Destiny has spoken. End drama.
maelstromgod
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada9 Posts
June 22 2011 21:04 GMT
#137
Get your own team man.

Go Team BURNSICK.

Cash Monies broham
A Terran a zerg and a protoss walk into a bar.....
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 22 2011 21:04 GMT
#138
Destiny kicked off a pretty mannered time!
Nothing but more exposure and "badass" nature association to him.


Incoming more viewers!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Moldwood
Profile Joined April 2011
United States280 Posts
June 22 2011 21:04 GMT
#139
These teams need to just put out the message that the views and opinions of their PLAYERS do not exactly reflect the views and opinions of the TEAM. This is an incredibly basic and necessary concept for any large organization. Or you can run around trying to slap EVERYONE on the wrist EVERY TIME they say something which you disagree with. GL ----- HF. Nuff said. Keep being yourself Destiny, I personally would never want you to act any other way, although it does suck that he probably just lost most of his income x (
"You drone I void ray I win" --oGsMC
CookiesAndCakeIsGood
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom5 Posts
June 22 2011 21:04 GMT
#140
Sounds like they just wanted an excuse to get rid of him because he's not a top player.

But he is...
I herd u like muta's. /trollface
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 66 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
SEL Masters #7
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft537
SortOf 97
ProTech86
FoxeR 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 5278
GuemChi 2330
Tasteless 194
Mind 113
Purpose 35
Bale 25
ZergMaN 24
Icarus 12
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm209
Counter-Strike
summit1g6754
m0e_tv649
Fnx 624
Other Games
C9.Mang0263
Sick210
Mew2King166
ToD46
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH268
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki22
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2421
League of Legends
• Rush1238
• Stunt551
• HappyZerGling70
Other Games
• Scarra1508
Upcoming Events
Escore
3h 38m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4h 38m
Big Brain Bouts
9h 38m
DnS vs Rex
Reynor vs Cure
Replay Cast
17h 38m
RSL Revival
1d 2h
herO vs SHIN
Clem vs Solar
Serral vs Rogue
Ladder Legends
1d 11h
Ladder Legends
1d 13h
RSL Revival
2 days
OSC
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The Patches Monday
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-05
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
RSL Revival: Season 6
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.