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qrs
United States3637 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On March 20 2008 14:10 Showtime! wrote: ShaLLoW are you mad because I took over your role from the last game? I think someone needs a lollipop. Too bad I don't have any special powers. Oh, wait: to annoy! Does this mean that you're the mafioso shitstirrer? Because I'm very inclined to believe it, and I think that your sudden switch to posting bullshit while claiming to be drunk is very suspicious. | ||
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Wysp
Canada2299 Posts
On March 20 2008 14:10 Showtime! wrote: ShaLLoW are you mad because I took over your role from the last game? I think someone needs a lollipop. Too bad I don't have any special powers. Oh, wait: to annoy!  | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
lol 69th page ^_^ | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
Didn't the organizer already say that he made a waiting list, so if people didn't vote or abstrain they would be in the game instead? In other words the other people got cut. Chances are it would have been better to go with a few other people's hunches or discussed it with the group first. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
If you keep doing that I'm just going to assume your Mafia and hope you get lynched very soon. Also, Townies as I stated before I've already been role blocked by the Saboteur. No extra votes, no double lynch. I have a voting power total of 6, with 5 extras. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 20 2008 14:15 Showtime! wrote: How many votes were there again? 111? Odds are almost the entire mob is playing. Didn't the organizer already say that he made a waiting list, so if people didn't vote or abstrain they would be in the game instead? In other words the other people got cut. Chances are it would have been better to go with a few other people's hunches or discussed it with the group first. how about this for better logic: Odds are anyone with a good role is playing the game and voting, especially being that majority of them got vanilla townies. So odds are I hit Mafia trying to lay low or a vanilla townie who just gave up on playing. I took a chance and just happened to hit a blue. Really thats just tough luck but if Inc didn't post at all nevertheless vote or abstain how does that help us? | ||
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
Honestly, if you want my opinion on how to lynch the first person, I would look at the clues first, find how people who have *voted* relate to clues vaguely (and i mean like in an easy sense, such as Mr. blue -> Oneblueaugust, Mr. pink -> that guy with )pink (sorry i cant remember your name)), and pick from that list of people. They have to have voted, and then i would look at their posts, small posts, or posts that sound illogical, or something not ordinary. You have to remember, townies have no reason to lie, and aren't trying to hide anything (except maybe vigilantes), where as mafia HAVE to lie to stay concealed and look like a townie. PS. I also thought that Chuiu mentioned how he was going to move special roles from inactive people to active people somewhere. If that is true, we just lost a mad hatter, and it would of been better to kill a townie for such a reason of keeping our special roles. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On March 20 2008 14:15 Showtime! wrote: How many votes were there again? 111? Odds are almost the entire mob is playing. Didn't the organizer already say that he made a waiting list, so if people didn't vote or abstrain they would be in the game instead? In other words the other people got cut. Chances are it would have been better to go with a few other people's hunches or discussed it with the group first. Gee, this seems like a fairly coherent post from someone who was drunk and babbling about two minutes ago. Please, tell me the secret to sobering up fast! | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
Of course the saboteur would use it on the first night so you wouldn't be able to get one of them. It is basic logic you goof. The fact of the matter is you voted Inc with no ground or basis other than hanging low. If you read the rules you would have known he was already out of the game. Hence a waste, hence you could have used someone else's hunch. | ||
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HotZhot
Colombia677 Posts
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On March 20 2008 14:11 Ace wrote: If you're still complaining about Incontrol being lynched, and you have a better idea then prove it. I'm not going to lynch anyone that voted because that would eliminate a somewhat active player. Yes, someone did have a better idea: On March 18 2008 16:31 araav wrote: Oh well, hindsight is 20/20.Here we go! Voting araav for mayor 3. If I happen to be pardoner, and not mayor (get the second highest votes), will pardon the first day lynches, unless the case is really VERY logical. | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
Guys stop bashing on Ace for making a hard decision. I will definitely be more active than tracil at pardoning if there is good reason to suspect that he is getting lynched do to mafia activity. You can pardon the first days lynch??!! I was under the impression that I could only pardon lynches voted on by the town. Either way I probably would've let it go though. Inactive people don't help town anyways. (Not to mention there was no real announcement for me to stop him) However, I am of the opinion that lynching is almost always better, so I will really have to be convinced to pardon someone. Grats to ace, cant say I'm not a little upset, but you put more work into this than I have so its all good. On that note I know I said I would have time to spend on this game, but some family showed up for spring break so I will be busy entertaining. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On March 20 2008 14:12 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Shallow, we should get one thing clear: you're the crapstirrer. You did it all last game, you're doing it again this game. (Not that it bothers me, but he who accuses...)Does this mean that you're the mafioso shitstirrer? Because I'm very inclined to believe it, and I think that your sudden switch to posting bullshit while claiming to be drunk is very suspicious. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
The Bodyguard Plan (fully revised) This is a strategy I've used in the past to win games, and it works very well if even a slight majority of the main players involved use it. The base of this plan lends itself to the fact that no innocent Townie knows for sure who else is innocent or what roles they are. Also is the fact that the main disadvantage the Town has is lack of information, whereas our main advantage is numbers. Combining these two things is the Bodyguard Plan. At the start of the game, the only non-Mafia/elected roles that any other player can possibly know for sure is a Bodyguard. The Mayor receives this info once elected into office. This plan is best with an innocent Mayor, but it also forces a Mafia Mayor to help the town in the event he/she is ever elected. When the Mayor is elected, their first plan of action should be to PM all the Bodyguards each other's identities. This pus information into the hands of the Townies that is critical. Assume there are 7 bodyguards. The Mayor PMs all of them the identity of the other 6. All of them then PM each other to 1: confirm they got a PM stating they are the bodyguard from the Mayor 2: make sure they ALL have the same list of Bodyguards In the case of an Innocent Mayor doing this, we have 7 townies all on the same side off the jump and this will be a major help to the Town if they all know the roles of 6 other innocents asap. In the case of a Mafia Mayor he could actually try and add a Mafia member to the list of Bodyguards or ignore a real Bodyguard - and this is where the true failsafe in the plan comes in. Failsafe: Remember, all Bodyguards SHOULD get that PM. If any of the Bodyguards don't get it then they should know something is clearly fishy and should investigate hastily. The Mayor would be investigated from Day 1, so the Town will know for sure if he/she is innocent or not which will allow the Bodyguards to know they can or can't trust the Mayor. If the Mayor turns out dirty, the Bodyguards will clearly speak up asap. If the Mayor is legit, then that Bodyguard list is 100% legit and ensures we have a solid base to start from because the Detectives stay silent. In summary the idea of this plan is self checking: Bodyguards are checked by each other and Mayor with the PMs Mayor is checked by Detectives Detectives stay silent if the Mayor is legit, and speak up if he is Mafia If ANY Detective speaks up against the Mayor and we can't decide whether or not who to believe, we go to the ultimatum approach - just lynch the DT first and if he is telling the truth the Mayor is Mafia. Boom - Mafia Mayor gone by the second day. If the Mayor tends to be Mafia and releases a corrupted list, then the BGs will speak up and name the people on the list. The DTs paying attention to this, investigate the names. The Mafia will have added just thrown some of their members into a trap and will get figured out eventually. In the case of an innocent Mayor this 100% guarantees us safety, in the case of a Mafia Mayor it takes us at worst 2 days to clean up the mess. This is my plan of action to start the game off. In the event the list is released publicly, the best part of this plan is that the spotlight is taken off of the Detectives and put on the Bodyguards. This allows the Detectives to stay quiet, and for the Medics to have a list of people they need to watch. Remember what I stated earlier - the Town's main disadvantage is that we lack information and this plan serves to rectify that while maximizing our main advantage - numbers. Once the base has been formed (Mayors + Bodyguards) we can start generating a list of suspects together, and figuring out roles down the road. To succeed the Town needs a strong start, and this plan is one of such. Once you are assured of my innocence through the Detective's silence, then you should PM me your roles so we can get started. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On March 20 2008 14:21 qrs wrote: Shallow, we should get one thing clear: you're the crapstirrer. You did it all last game, you're doing it again this game. (Not that it bothers me, but he who accuses...) ... did you READ THE POST OF HIS I QUOTED? OR THE ONE BEFORE IT ABOUT INCONTROL? Have you read any of this guys posts? Your sudden jump to believe his story about being drunk, while he's still capable of posting a vastly contrasting, logical post, is a bit iffy. Last game, I was mafia. It was my prerogative. | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
I find it quite amusing just ignore him if he bothers you that much you may very well be this game as well too bad I don't have any bombs to tie you up on | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On March 20 2008 14:24 Showtime! wrote: let him be I find it quite amusing just ignore him if he bothers you that much you may very well be this game as well too bad I don't have any bombs to tie you up on I think Teamliquid should implement a [/squelch] button. | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
On March 20 2008 13:50 bumatlarge wrote: I'm glad he used the instant lynch. But i would have chosen differently. Chuiu, what are you going to do about inactives? Thy have already affected the outcome of this game. (And wtf Inc? Playin too much SC to at least chek up on Mafia? I bet he didn't even look at his role >_>) Inactive players will get replaced by a player on the wait list or if they had a special role it will be reassigned to an active towny after two days of inactivity (not voting). | ||
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