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On October 13 2010 15:16 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 15:06 YummyBlaBla wrote:On October 13 2010 14:59 Glasse wrote:
I feel like you guys saying they will go for veldril are all wrong. Wouldnt it be smarter of them to keep the vamps with more kp while they know who one of them is? From what i understand they need to have the number of town ppl low as well so he will probably go unharmed, while we may have to vote him off or something like that. I'm not saying they will. They will have to eventually to win. I say our good play for day 2 would be sparing Veldril for someone else who is number 1 on our suspicious list. We don't need to lynch Veldril because we know he's vampire. It would be wasting our kill of the day. No! read my post! I am quite sure that veldir will remain untouched. Reducing number of reds is so BAD for both M/V since town most likely will win. think about it, if M kill Veldir they also lose 1 "clear target" that they can save for later kill points. If Veldir is safe night1, he will have 80% of my vote. If Veldir is safe night 1 + 1 vamp got killed => he got 100% of my vote. If he is dead => reset :<
I think I see where you're getting at.
6 random kills by M/V tonight
If Mafia messes up and kills a vampire (not Veldir) by luck, we 100% lynch Veldir to decrease vampire kill count.
I think if a vampire doesn't die, we should save Veldir until day 3and hope mafia kills a random vampire in night 2.
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On October 13 2010 15:20 NB wrote:
also i have to reconsider the fact why 2 townies wana let a Vamp live when they clearly know what he is....
Coagulation and YummyBlaBla, you 2 will be on my list.
If i happen to die tonight. please consider Coagulation and YummyBlaBla as the next target T_T
My reasoning is why would we kill someone that is almost confirmed vampire when we could be testing our kill on someone else.
Read my above post. I will most certainly lynch Veldir if a vampire dies tonight.
I'm off to bed. I will be back to check around in 18 hours.
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On October 13 2010 15:24 YummyBlaBla wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 15:16 NB wrote:On October 13 2010 15:06 YummyBlaBla wrote:On October 13 2010 14:59 Glasse wrote:
I feel like you guys saying they will go for veldril are all wrong. Wouldnt it be smarter of them to keep the vamps with more kp while they know who one of them is? From what i understand they need to have the number of town ppl low as well so he will probably go unharmed, while we may have to vote him off or something like that. I'm not saying they will. They will have to eventually to win. I say our good play for day 2 would be sparing Veldril for someone else who is number 1 on our suspicious list. We don't need to lynch Veldril because we know he's vampire. It would be wasting our kill of the day. No! read my post! I am quite sure that veldir will remain untouched. Reducing number of reds is so BAD for both M/V since town most likely will win. think about it, if M kill Veldir they also lose 1 "clear target" that they can save for later kill points. If Veldir is safe night1, he will have 80% of my vote. If Veldir is safe night 1 + 1 vamp got killed => he got 100% of my vote. If he is dead => reset :< I think I see where you're getting at. 6 random kills by M/V tonight If Mafia messes up and kills a vampire (not Veldir) by luck, we 100% lynch Veldir to decrease vampire kill count. I think if a vampire doesn't die, we should save Veldir until day 3and hope mafia kills a random vampire in night 2.
so why dont we just go a head and lynch Veldir on day 2 no matter what? i mean i wont decrease the random chance of mafia killing at least 1 Vamp?...
seriously dont understand why you want to let Veld live on day2 so much... are you Vamp who is trying to protect your kp?...
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i was just saying lets wait and see if mafia gets veldir tonight
i voted to lynch masq first round of votes
and if the town decides its best lynchr veldir if he is still in game tmorrow i will vote him also.
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On October 13 2010 15:20 NB wrote:
also i have to reconsider the fact why 2 townies wana let a Vamp live when they clearly know what he is....
Coagulation and YummyBlaBla, you 2 will be on my list.
If i happen to die tonight. please consider Coagulation and YummyBlaBla as the next target T_T
this is completely false.
nowhere at all did i post i want to let him live.
i was just implying that there is a possibility that mafia will kill him for us.
please dont put words in my mouth.
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On October 13 2010 15:33 NB wrote:
so why dont we just go a head and lynch Veldir on day 2 no matter what? i mean i wont decrease the random chance of mafia killing at least 1 Vamp?...
seriously dont understand why you want to let Veld live on day2 so much... are you Vamp who is trying to protect your kp?...
Disagree.
Treat Veld as money in the bank imo. If we get some nice clues tonight, we'll have a wealth of information provided from the discussion and lynch result of the new cuplrit(s), otherwise we can go back and lynch veld without fear of accidentally hitting a towny. Only problem with lynching veld, is we don't get any more information for the following lynches - more information is good. Also, if we're getting successful lynches off and manage to snag Mafia, they'll be forced to take vel out themselves after several rounds to limit Vamp KP. Thats IF he's still alive.
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On October 13 2010 15:12 spydR wrote:
Smart Mafia wouldn't attack vel. There's too much chance of a boogeyman on him imo. Besides, I wouldn't be surprised if voting goes hot for him next day, so they can afford to spend KP somewhere else and let the town deal with it. That not only means they're more efficient with KP, but town won't catch wind of Mafia and lynch one of them instead.
Why would it matter if a boogeyman is on him? Wouldn't it only show that he was visited in the night, which everybody finds out since the guy is dead anyways?
Not saying you're wrong, I'm just trying to figure out what everyone's thought process is.
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Oh, my mistake: I thought boogeyman revealed who visited him. I retract the boogeyman comment.
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Yup, just re-read OP. Clearly doesn't work like I thought it did ^.^ Thanks
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Cool cool. 
I wouldn't make up our collective minds on veld just yet. It really depends on what we see once the night has ended.
I'm too lazy to look through the whole thread, what exactly makes us so sure that he's a vampire?
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And Masq turns out to be a vampire...
If you guys are so worried about me, role check me if you want. You can even plant a bogeyman to spy whether someone visit me or not to. However, I think that some people are now 100% sure of my role right now.
Remember that town wants to reduce the number of vampire and mafia gradually and have their number similar to each other. Moreover, Mafia now would want to use town vote to kill me more than dirty their own hands. Lynching me now would only help strengthen Mafia.
All in all, reserve your judgment until day 2. There's going to be a lot of killing this night.
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Hey guys, just got swapped in. Give me a day to read up on the thread and I'll try to analyze a few players' posts.
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list of people who have defended masq + vel
youngminii
On October 11 2010 17:46 youngminii wrote:
I dunno, out of the 61 people playing, there's bound to be at least one who could point out the similarities between a jack-o-lantern and a pear with the markings of a jack-o-lantern.
spydR
On October 12 2010 01:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:Veldril, all your last post as done for me is made me MORE suspicious of you. Show nested quote +Oh well, I think I deserve to be suspected for protecting Masq. But let's be clear, I'm suspecting Masq too Admitting that you should be suspected and then saying you also suspect Masq only makes me think that you are trying to shed suspicion. "townie like us" seems to me that you are trying to make the players feel you are one of the townies. Why would someone who is a townie want to try and appear to be a townie? Show nested quote +I like your post here. Yes, I was absolutely did a bad post and deserve to be suspected. But after reading Ver's guide, do you think I would make a same mistake that Misder made in the past? I think not. You are trying to placate BM by agreeing that his accusations were reasonable. This is an attempt to get on his good side. It is possible that you could make the same mistakes Misder did, and, even if you recognized that you did, you are trying to convince him that you wouldn't make these mistakes. I am tagging you as a red. You are trying too hard to appear innocent. Well, my dear friend, there is no such thing as innocence, just varying degrees of guilt. Side note: While the clues from the murders are important, I believe the discussions and peoples' reactions will reveal more to us.
On October 12 2010 01:24 spydR wrote:Show nested quote +
"townie like us" seems to me that you are trying to make the players feel you are one of the townies. Why would someone who is a townie want to try and appear to be a townie?
Perhaps because he doesn't want to be lynched within one day of play - particularly if he's telling the truth?
NB
On October 12 2010 02:09 NB wrote:
I have a feeling that the more votes we have for masq, the deeper we are falling into a trap... The only reason i would vote for him right now is beacause he "seem" to have a teammate who is "Veldrill"
jodogohoo
On October 12 2010 04:14 jodogohoo wrote:
at this point veldril is just being a scapegoat, he was probably already chosen to be sacrificed =\
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not saying anything i just posted up there is super solid.
its just a possibility and probably should be looked over by more experienced players.
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scapegoat as in his mafia friends sacrificed him*
which i stand by, cause right now all he is doing is TRYING to cause disorder, but its so obvious its entertaining =]
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[QUOTE]On October 13 2010 16:33 Coagulation wrote:
list of people who have defended masq + vel
spydR
[QUOTE]On October 12 2010 01:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Veldril, all your last post as done for me is made me MORE suspicious of you.
[quote]Oh well, I think I deserve to be suspected for protecting Masq. But let's be clear, I'm suspecting Masq too[/quote]
Admitting that you should be suspected and then saying you also suspect Masq only makes me think that you are trying to shed suspicion.
[quote]That means the clue might hurt townie like us too.[/quote]
"townie like us" seems to me that you are trying to make the players feel you are one of the townies. Why would someone who is a townie want to try and appear to be a townie?
[quote]I like your post here. Yes, I was absolutely did a bad post and deserve to be suspected. But after reading Ver's guide, do you think I would make a same mistake that Misder made in the past? I think not.[/quote]
You are trying to placate BM by agreeing that his accusations were reasonable. This is an attempt to get on his good side. It is possible that you could make the same mistakes Misder did, and, even if you recognized that you did, you are trying to convince him that you wouldn't make these mistakes.
I am tagging you as a red. You are trying too hard to appear innocent. Well, my dear friend, there is no such thing as innocence, just varying degrees of guilt.
Side note: While the clues from the murders are important, I believe the discussions and peoples' reactions will reveal more to us.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]On October 12 2010 01:24 spydR wrote:
[quote]
"townie like us" seems to me that you are trying to make the players feel you are one of the townies. Why would someone who is a townie want to try and appear to be a townie?
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Perhaps because he doesn't want to be lynched within one day of play - particularly if he's telling the truth? [/QUOTE]
What's wrong with my pointing out a logical paradox?
If you're town you're going to act town.
If you're scrum, you're going to act town.
Saying someone is scum for acting town is downright dumb
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If mod could edit to fix quotes: or people just read around them
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On October 13 2010 17:01 spydR wrote:
If mod could edit to fix quotes: or people just read around them
just edit by way of double post. post it again with the correct formatting.
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EBWOP
On October 13 2010 16:33 Coagulation wrote: list of people who have defended masq + vel spydR Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 01:01 jcarlsoniv wrote: Veldril, all your last post as done for me is made me MORE suspicious of you. Oh well, I think I deserve to be suspected for protecting Masq. But let's be clear, I'm suspecting Masq too Admitting that you should be suspected and then saying you also suspect Masq only makes me think that you are trying to shed suspicion. That means the clue might hurt townie like us too. "townie like us" seems to me that you are trying to make the players feel you are one of the townies. Why would someone who is a townie want to try and appear to be a townie? I like your post here. Yes, I was absolutely did a bad post and deserve to be suspected. But after reading Ver's guide, do you think I would make a same mistake that Misder made in the past? I think not. You are trying to placate BM by agreeing that his accusations were reasonable. This is an attempt to get on his good side. It is possible that you could make the same mistakes Misder did, and, even if you recognized that you did, you are trying to convince him that you wouldn't make these mistakes. I am tagging you as a red. You are trying too hard to appear innocent. Well, my dear friend, there is no such thing as innocence, just varying degrees of guilt. Side note: While the clues from the murders are important, I believe the discussions and peoples' reactions will reveal more to us. Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 01:24 spydR wrote:
"townie like us" seems to me that you are trying to make the players feel you are one of the townies. Why would someone who is a townie want to try and appear to be a townie?
Perhaps because he doesn't want to be lynched within one day of play - particularly if he's telling the truth?
What's wrong with my pointing out a logical paradox?
If you're town you're going to act town.
If you're scrum, you're going to act town.
Saying someone is scum for acting town is downright dumb
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