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On October 13 2010 14:36 ShmotZ wrote:
I think what you dont understand Bill Murray, is that this is just a game. Its supposed to be fun and enjoyable expecially for new people, and right now your ruining the experience of the game for alot of newcomers.
sorry, guys
i guess i took mafia on this website too seriously
if i ruined the experience for any of you newer players, don't let it stop you from playing!
it's a very fun game, and most people have better logic than me
i was really just trying to help my side win, and if i ever attacked someone i had good intentions
yet again, sorry.
also, sorry to the moderators, and to the people who have invested more of their soul into the mafia play on this website than me: ace, ver, qatol, bc, caller, opz.... incognito... infundibulum... ill miss you guys. a lot of you i didn't name, like citi.zen, etc, ill miss you guys too
sorry im so misunderstood
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Let's try to get some discussion going...
We know that Masq = Vampire
How certain are we that Veldir is also vampire?
If he is, will the Mafia kill him off? What happens if they don't? Will we lynch Veldir the next day or base our lynch on day 2's post?
I say we are 99.99% certain that Veldir is vampire. Even if the mafia leaves him alone after the night, we should let him survive the lynch to let the mafia deal with him sooner or later, while we target the new clues.
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On October 13 2010 14:39 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 14:36 ShmotZ wrote:
I think what you dont understand Bill Murray, is that this is just a game. Its supposed to be fun and enjoyable expecially for new people, and right now your ruining the experience of the game for alot of newcomers. sorry, guys i guess i took mafia on this website too seriously if i ruined the experience for any of you newer players, don't let it stop you from playing! it's a very fun game, and most people have better logic than me i was really just trying to help my side win, and if i ever attacked someone i had good intentions yet again, sorry. also, sorry to the moderators, and to the people who have invested more of their soul into the mafia play on this website than me: ace, ver, qatol, bc, caller, opz.... incognito... infundibulum... ill miss you guys. a lot of you i didn't name, like citi.zen, etc, ill miss you guys too sorry im so misunderstood
apology accepted
issue resolved
lets get the show on the road.
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Are we allowed discussion at night DrH? Most games don't allow it, I just wanted to make sure
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On October 13 2010 14:41 YummyBlaBla wrote:
Let's try to get some discussion going...
We know that Masq = Vampire
How certain are we that Veldir is also vampire?
If he is, will the Mafia kill him off? What happens if they don't? Will we lynch Veldir the next day or base our lynch on day 2's post?
I say we are 99.99% certain that Veldir is vampire. Even if the mafia leaves him alone after the night, we should let him survive the lynch to let the mafia deal with him sooner or later, while we target the new clues.
exactly
let mafia make a move on veldir
lets push some of our other suspects and see what comes up
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On October 13 2010 14:43 Thegilaboy wrote:
Are we allowed discussion at night DrH? Most games don't allow it, I just wanted to make sure
Yes
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On October 13 2010 14:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 14:43 Thegilaboy wrote:
Are we allowed discussion at night DrH? Most games don't allow it, I just wanted to make sure Yes
Righteous.
If there really was a connection between Masq and Veldril, we should expect to see mafia gunning for him tonight in hopes of snagging another vamp kill. Hopefully if any of the replacements for modkills are blues that they have enough time to catch up and get their role actions in check, we can't afford to lose those opportunities after getting such a lucky lynch at the beginning of the game. Anyway, I must be off for now, catch up on some z's, you all have a good one
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On October 13 2010 14:41 YummyBlaBla wrote:
Let's try to get some discussion going...
We know that Masq = Vampire
How certain are we that Veldir is also vampire?
If he is, will the Mafia kill him off? What happens if they don't? Will we lynch Veldir the next day or base our lynch on day 2's post?
I say we are 99.99% certain that Veldir is vampire. Even if the mafia leaves him alone after the night, we should let him survive the lynch to let the mafia deal with him sooner or later, while we target the new clues.
i quite disagree! the fact that Vampire is down 1 means mafia will kill more townies than they want to kill Vamp.
Remember that town will win if 8 M/V dies plus if 1 vamp already down, killing 2 more vamps will reduce their KP to 2. What does this mean is that Vamp will focus mafia down to balance out the force, mafia will try to reduce townies number b4 touch vamp and towm wana kill vamps to reduce their KP.
but i have to agree on your point that 80% Veldir is a vamp.
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I feel like you guys saying they will go for veldril are all wrong. Wouldnt it be smarter of them to keep the vamps with more kp while they know who one of them is? From what i understand they need to have the number of town ppl low as well so he will probably go unharmed, while we may have to vote him off or something like that.
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On October 13 2010 14:59 Glasse wrote:
I feel like you guys saying they will go for veldril are all wrong. Wouldnt it be smarter of them to keep the vamps with more kp while they know who one of them is? From what i understand they need to have the number of town ppl low as well so he will probably go unharmed, while we may have to vote him off or something like that.
but no one is 100% hes vamp
so they kill him and hes a vamp then they have 1 vamp down
turns out hes not a vamp then they get 1 townie down
i dont think there are very many targets revealed so far for mafia so he will probably stand out as a good hit.
anyway im a newb so i have honestly no idea how it will play out.
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On October 13 2010 14:59 Glasse wrote:
I feel like you guys saying they will go for veldril are all wrong. Wouldnt it be smarter of them to keep the vamps with more kp while they know who one of them is? From what i understand they need to have the number of town ppl low as well so he will probably go unharmed, while we may have to vote him off or something like that.
I'm not saying they will. They will have to eventually to win. I say our good play for day 2 would be sparing Veldril for someone else who is number 1 on our suspicious list. We don't need to lynch Veldril because we know he's vampire. It would be wasting our kill of the day.
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will you guys pm me your roles now that im out? I want to see how right I was.
I already know 2 dts, so you can't WIFOM me on "well, he's trying to fuck the game". I really just want to know who is what, so I can get better as a player when I play on mafiascum.net.
Thanks!
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Smart Mafia wouldn't attack vel. There's too much chance of a boogeyman on him imo. Besides, I wouldn't be surprised if voting goes hot for him next day, so they can afford to spend KP somewhere else and let the town deal with it. That not only means they're more efficient with KP, but town won't catch wind of Mafia and lynch one of them instead.
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ebwop:
Seems like im just reitterating the general consensus.
Hopefully nigh2 clues can spark some new reactions.
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From now on there is to be no discussion of Bill Murray and his modkill UNLESS it is directly relevant to the game (i.e analyzing his past post behavior to scrutinize his replacement). For the sake of this game we are pretending this never happened.
I would like to sincerely apologize to new players, this leaves a really bad impression. Let's just all move on and play the game as it goes. I will not allow one player to ruin the game for an entire playing base. Mafia should be enjoyable and if we simply just move on and continue with the game this will be ultimately of zero consequence in the game overall. I guarantee that this game is going to get much better when the next day dawns and there will be a ton to discuss.
So let's stay positive and move on!
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On October 13 2010 15:10 Bill Murray wrote:
I already know 2 dts
cool grats on fucking the game
now confirmed at least 2 dts in the game
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On October 13 2010 15:06 YummyBlaBla wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 14:59 Glasse wrote:
I feel like you guys saying they will go for veldril are all wrong. Wouldnt it be smarter of them to keep the vamps with more kp while they know who one of them is? From what i understand they need to have the number of town ppl low as well so he will probably go unharmed, while we may have to vote him off or something like that. I'm not saying they will. They will have to eventually to win. I say our good play for day 2 would be sparing Veldril for someone else who is number 1 on our suspicious list. We don't need to lynch Veldril because we know he's vampire. It would be wasting our kill of the day.
No! read my post!
I am quite sure that veldir will remain untouched. Reducing number of reds is so BAD for both M/V since town most likely will win. think about it, if M kill Veldir they also lose 1 "clear target" that they can save for later kill points.
If Veldir is safe night1, he will have 80% of my vote. If Veldir is safe night 1 + 1 vamp got killed => he got 100% of my vote. If he is dead => reset :<
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On October 13 2010 15:16 annul wrote:cool grats on fucking the game now confirmed at least 2 dts in the game
He could be lying. The exact rolecount is still a mystery, take what you hear from a dead and spamming player with a grain of salt.
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also i have to reconsider the fact why 2 townies wana let a Vamp live when they clearly know what he is....
Coagulation and YummyBlaBla, you 2 will be on my list.
If i happen to die tonight. please consider Coagulation and YummyBlaBla as the next target T_T
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