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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 17 2013 22:42 GMT
#1241
On January 18 2013 07:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
also note that neither of them are around right now.

I know Prom wasn't around either but he actually said in thread that he'd be at work before leaving. (something I had missed earlier) Neither slOosh nor Hopeless have taken an active role in either

a.) defending themselves

or

b.) trying to find scum.

This is, IMO, pretty uncharacteristic of BOTH of their town games. slOosh as town is one of the better players in the game, and I know from cohosting with Hopeless and playing with him in past games that he sometimes has similar ideas to me when it comes to scumhunting and playing. So why are they both playing so out of character?

I AM glad, though, that we were able to get the vote so close. Even if we lynch wrongly today the votes and the changes should at least give a better idea of how to proceed.

Given that SlOosh is a better player than Hopeless, I'd say this makes SlOosh looks worse than Hopeless.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 17 2013 22:43 GMT
#1242
Just got back home, will be catching up and dropping my reads in a moment
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2013 22:43 GMT
#1243
On January 18 2013 07:41 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 07:39 thrawn2112 wrote:
my memories of playing with town hopeless is that I yell at him a lot for not scumhunting.

imo LM is such obvious scum, idk how people aren't voting for him. Prom was lynched instead of Lazer (i'm not counting any votes that happened after ruuch's entrance) and LM had 2 confirmed town (sloosh and prom) voting for him. lets lynch LM please

but he does take initiative in who's getting lynched. look at the end of day 1 in mario.

Okay, lets play then. WIFOM this, with the knowledge that plurality lynch will kill me even if I swap back:

##Unvote: SlOosh
##Vote: Lazermonkey
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 17 2013 22:44 GMT
#1244
Lol DAT timing.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 17 2013 22:44 GMT
#1245
a bold move
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 17 2013 22:44 GMT
#1246
Like seriously, what are the odds?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 17 2013 22:45 GMT
#1247
they BOTH delurked when I said that?

rofl what's with players this game and insta-delurking when called out?
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 17 2013 22:45 GMT
#1248
On January 18 2013 07:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
Like seriously, what are the odds?


what are you talking about? you did the same thing several hours ago. do you want to lynch hopeless instead of sloosh? if not then what is your point?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 17 2013 22:45 GMT
#1249
so hopeless paying th Jesus Christ card. Would he be that bold as scum......

must ponder
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2013 22:45 GMT
#1250
I'd hardly call that instant, but okay. P.S. Hapa is scum
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 17 2013 22:46 GMT
#1251
On January 18 2013 07:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'd hardly call that instant, but okay. P.S. Hapa is scum

he's probably the sk but that is irrelevant for right now.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 17 2013 22:47 GMT
#1252
On January 18 2013 07:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 07:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
Like seriously, what are the odds?


what are you talking about? you did the same thing several hours ago. do you want to lynch hopeless instead of sloosh? if not then what is your point?
You do realize BOTH hopeless and SlOosh came back the EXACT same minute?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2013 22:47 GMT
#1253
On January 18 2013 07:46 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 07:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'd hardly call that instant, but okay. P.S. Hapa is scum

he's probably the sk but that is irrelevant for right now.

k fine, but he still needs to die
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2013 22:48 GMT
#1254
On January 18 2013 04:38 Hapahauli wrote:
Aughh... got the flu and I feel like hell. Fun fun fun.

I need to rest some, but I should be around from now until the deadline.



Regarding Hopeless

We still should be lynching him. What about his responses have convinced you that he's town? He's lurking, he's dropping reads with barely any justification, and he made a self-preservation vote 24-hours before the lynch deadline. Hell I can't see where he pulled his read on SloOsh from:

Show nested quote +
I'm more inclined to believe bugs and Ruuch(Lamp) are town, so right now my choices to vote are Lazer and SlOosh, and possibly Hapa for no other reason than his vote was in scummy places.

Show nested quote +
SlOosh, you asked me why I wasn't pushing my own read, but its not like I could have stopped you from voting Prom. The whole point of that exercise was to question my motives, not to see if I had anything new to contribute. Hapa is next to impossible to reason with, and when was the last time you saw grush respond to any form of logic? Attempting to get Lazer lynched when Prom was afk and super didn't give two shits (hell, he swapped onto a townread) wasn't remotely possible, and if you honestly believe I had a chance in hell, please tell me what you are smoking.

Show nested quote +
Bugs' vote was on Zentor, until Ruuch showed his face. Bugs didn't do much to stop the Prom lynch, other than trying to get Ruuch at the last minute. This move puts him under suspicion, same as Hapa, but based on the night conversations, I believe only 1 of SlOosh and wbg are scum. I'm not discounting the possibility that both sloosh and wbg are scum, but it seems far less likely, and I think sloosh is more suspicious (/sheep bugs).

Show nested quote +
Sloosh, LM, Hapa


That's everything in his filter that could be considered suspicion on slOosh. And none of it is suspicion. It's just name-dropping and/or defending himself from sloOsh's line of questioning.



Regarding SloOsh

We should not be lynching him over a guy that has displayed numerous inconsistencies that are incompatible with a town-mentality (Hopeless).

I have my doubts about SloOsh. He's interested in pushing Hopeless, and he's more active in his defense than you all give him credit for.

I think we need to give him another day to prove himself one way or the other. In the mean-time, we need to lynch the scummiest guy in the thread - Hopeless.

Uh no Hapa. Read my filter again. Sloosh himself asked me to qualify my read on him. While not the most elaborate discussion ever, its nice of you to just ignore the most relevant part of your accusation:
On January 17 2013 10:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 10:29 slOosh wrote:
You guys just gonna let hopeless skate by making a case on lazer and dropping it whenever he feels like it? He is gonna make it to lategame like that.

Hopeless, in your own words, what about me is scummy? Or are you purely looking out for yourself and you don't care about my alignment?

You're pressure on me when I was commenting on Zentor, and subsequently using it to paint me as scum is my primary motivator in calling you scum. I do not believe there was any sufficient action I could have taken to adequately steered Prom's lynch onto anyone else and you insisting I should have tried harder, when there are multiple players who fit that bill irks me.

There's also the night interactions with wbg. I'm not dissecting that discussion. I think you look scummier than bugs and I think there is at least 1 scum between the two of you. That is enough for me at the moment.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 17 2013 22:48 GMT
#1255
On January 18 2013 07:47 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 07:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 18 2013 07:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
Like seriously, what are the odds?


what are you talking about? you did the same thing several hours ago. do you want to lynch hopeless instead of sloosh? if not then what is your point?
You do realize BOTH hopeless and SlOosh came back the EXACT same minute?

do you have a point?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2013 22:48 GMT
#1256
On January 18 2013 07:48 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 07:47 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 18 2013 07:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 18 2013 07:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
Like seriously, what are the odds?


what are you talking about? you did the same thing several hours ago. do you want to lynch hopeless instead of sloosh? if not then what is your point?
You do realize BOTH hopeless and SlOosh came back the EXACT same minute?

do you have a point?

He's scum what makes you think he has a point?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 17 2013 22:49 GMT
#1257
yes, let's speculate about an SK for no reason at all...

let's see what happens if I do this:

##unvote
##vote slOosh
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 17 2013 22:49 GMT
#1258
On January 18 2013 07:48 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 07:47 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 18 2013 07:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 18 2013 07:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
Like seriously, what are the odds?


what are you talking about? you did the same thing several hours ago. do you want to lynch hopeless instead of sloosh? if not then what is your point?
You do realize BOTH hopeless and SlOosh came back the EXACT same minute?

do you have a point?
Of course not... I just found it funny!
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 17 2013 22:50 GMT
#1259
On January 18 2013 07:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
yes, let's speculate about an SK for no reason at all...

let's see what happens if I do this:

##unvote
##vote slOosh

The guy that is set to die still dies
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 17 2013 22:50 GMT
#1260
On January 18 2013 07:50 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 07:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
yes, let's speculate about an SK for no reason at all...

let's see what happens if I do this:

##unvote
##vote slOosh

The guy that is set to die still dies


nope. I'm pretty sure it puts slOosh in the lead because it's a net 2 vote swing.

minus 1 on H he goes from 5 to 4 and then slOosh goes from 4 to 5
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