EPTOn September 25 2011 22:25 emperorchampion wrote:
Ugh, sorry extra dumb this morning
Ugh, sorry extra dumb this morning
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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Ludrik
Australia523 Posts
On September 25 2011 22:42 GoTuNk! wrote: Hope I don't get burned in hell for this, but I actually disagree with you. I think you should always use mixed grip for the following reasons: 1) You don't have to worry about losing your grip, so you focus on your technique 2) I'm quite sure anyone but an experienced lifter will never lose his grip overhand. That is, because most people's body are wired in a way that they will not be able to lift in the first place is they feel they are gonna lose their grip; however the novice lifter might not be aware he is failing his lift because of grip. I think I read this in one of Pavel's books, not sure which one though. 3) Self experience. I don't think you need to "work your grip". As long as you don't wear straps it will always catch up to ur lift. My PR is around 2.5 bodyweight and i've never felt even close to failing my grip. Just because you're using mixed grip doesn't mean you don't have to worry about losing your grip. From self experience I've found that my grip is the limiting factor on my deadlift. Double overhand I can only hold ~110kg. My legs and back feel strong enough to do 2x bodyweight (~155kg) but my mixed grip can only handle about 1.8xBW (140kg). At 145kg my grip fails halfway up the lift and I by no means consider myself experienced. Just for reference when I started deadlifting around 6 months ago I couldn't even hold 100kg mixed grip. I think my inactive lifestyle(not need to stuff to carry) and finger geometry might be slightly to blame for my grip woes. I have short fingers which puts me at a mechanical disadvantage over people with longer fingers, so I need to get my hands and forearms stronger to compensate. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
Double overhand taxes grip more.... it's better to do it early and get stimulus for grip strength then switch to mixed when you fail. If more is needed afterwards then do some specific grip work Obviously, you want to progress so that your lifts are all double overhand with no mixed because improving grip strength helps everything else. If you're feeling like you're losing your grip that is when you should switch to mixed so it should *not* interfere with technique at all. | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
Haha, it's actually amazing I read his first post then forgot about it like 30sec later lol...  | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9374 Posts
I lifted on Thursday and went for a lift on Friday too. It was more rage filled than anything, but I did felt tired. Shit felt too heavyZ Anyway numbers for Friday. Squat 110 3x5 - 1x1 120kg Deadlift 1x5 120kg - 1x1 130kg Shitty day mostly :/ Gotta rest | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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inimenesc
Estonia374 Posts
Went quite good considering i have been going to basketball practice for 2 weeks  , go all 40mins in the winning game and 40mins in the last game we lost, "only" 33 and 20 in the other games. Latvians are crazy athletic. Like 170cm guys 2handed dunking. Need to get more power into my legs.Tuesday...lifting!!! Cant wait, couldnt obviously go this saturday | ||
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DoubleZee
Canada556 Posts
Squat 2x5 185 1x5 195 OHP 1x5 100 1x5 105 1x4 105 | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
Deadlift: 225kg x 2. HELL YEAH! | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
Should i be eating more, the same or less because of this? | ||
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MeShiet
Canada290 Posts
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
Lost today, 12-7 I believe. Had a damn good personal game though - went from very nearly not starting the game, to coach asking me if I was good to play the whole game, and telling me that I'll probably play lock next week in the D3 game. All from them squats baby! Had some really good hits, and one pretty solid run. If I'd been able to catch the ball at speed I'd probably have scored a try, but that's not something I've gotten much work on yet. Pretty much just 80 minutes of going at it like a fucking gladiator, trying to rip the other team apart with my bare hands. I haven't felt this awake in YEARS - I'm addicted to this game for life. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4719 Posts
On September 26 2011 03:57 sJarl wrote: Coan-Philipi week 4. Deadlift: 225kg x 2. HELL YEAH! Glad someone is stepping up his game, keeps me motivated. You will get my 235kg in no time. | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
On September 26 2011 06:09 Malinor wrote: Glad someone is stepping up his game, keeps me motivated. You will get my 235kg in no time. Week 8 consists of 237,5kg x 2. I'm not looking forward to that at all... Won't stop at 235, going for 250! | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
Im writing up a oly lifting thread, it will be done in a day or two. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4719 Posts
On September 26 2011 06:15 sJarl wrote: Week 8 consists of 237,5kg x 2. I'm not looking forward to that at all... Won't stop at 235, going for 250! Yeah, I am not sleeping either, but I feel pretty weak at the moment, have failed my Deadlift sets 2 weeks in a row Another thing, how tall are you in cm? You said lately that you are 6'0 and I thought you were taller, just curious. | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
been eating/sleeping properly?I'm about 185cm so almost 6'1". Your profile pic is hillarious though :D | ||
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Malinor
Germany4719 Posts
On September 26 2011 06:39 sJarl wrote: aw man, that sucks been eating/sleeping properly?I'm about 185cm so almost 6'1". Your profile pic is hillarious though :D Lol, I like my profile pic very much I entertained a lot of people around the camp fire that night^^Anyway, my main goal still remains to lose weight, and that goes very well. But sadly there are no beginner gains left in me, and the positive effects of obesity on lifting heavy have also pretty much vanished by now. It is fucking hard to make strength gains while on a caloric defecit, I experience this pretty hard right now. At the moment I am mostly trying to bring up my Front Squats, Push Press, Chins and Power Cleans, those lifts are all pretty lacking. There is more focus on my upper body at the moment, and squats and deadlifts therefore are just hard in general. That being said, I believe I could pull 240kg right now if I would lift really rested. By the way, I want to say that I really like your approach to training: I need a big Deadlift, gonna do Coan-Philippi. Strong Men is awesome, gonna train some Strong Men. Realising that you are too weak for that shit, going on Smolov and that 5/3/1 with focus on benching. And now Deadlifting again. It is very project-based, I like that a lot. | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
On September 26 2011 06:48 Malinor wrote: Lol, I like my profile pic very much I entertained a lot of people around the camp fire that night^^Anyway, my main goal still remains to lose weight, and that goes very well. But sadly there are no beginner gains left in me, and the positive effects of obesity on lifting heavy have also pretty much vanished by now. It is fucking hard to make strength gains while on a caloric defecit, I experience this pretty hard right now. At the moment I am mostly trying to bring up my Front Squats, Push Press, Chins and Power Cleans, those lifts are all pretty lacking. There is more focus on my upper body at the moment, and squats and deadlifts therefore are just hard in general. That being said, I believe I could pull 240kg right now if I would lift really rested. By the way, I want to say that I really like your approach to training: I need a big Deadlift, gonna do Coan-Philippi. Strong Men is awesome, gonna train some Strong Men. Realising that you are too weak for that shit, going on Smolov and that 5/3/1 with focus on benching. And now Deadlifting again. It is very project-based, I like that a lot. If you are still losing weight / improving your bf% but not getting better on your lifts you are still making progress, and while it isn't as good as it used to be it's still a step forward. Pushing those big lifts on a calorie defecit is just too damn hard. But you are progressing nicely on the flat bench so not everything is going the wrong way You might want to look into 5/3/1 yourself. And thank you for that last bit, I really appreciated it. I just like doing things that work and Coan-Philipi really does it for me. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On September 26 2011 07:17 sJarl wrote: If you are still losing weight / improving your bf% but not getting better on your lifts you are still making progress, and while it isn't as good as it used to be it's still a step forward. Pushing those big lifts on a calorie defecit is just too damn hard. But you are progressing nicely on the flat bench so not everything is going the wrong way You might want to look into 5/3/1 yourself. And thank you for that last bit, I really appreciated it. I just like doing things that work and Coan-Philipi really does it for me. I've just googled the coan-philipi, and I was wondering if you pull with a fast start or not. | ||
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