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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On August 31 2010 09:01 Fishball wrote:If LSB isn't Mafia, nor the traitor, tracking him would do nothing. Also, seems like everyone is leaving chaoser out of the equation. What if we hit SR and he flips Vanilla Townie, and tracking LSB gave us nothing? That leaves us with chaoser obviously, but I'm just saying. Either way, this issue most likely won't be resolved tonight no matter how we switch our actions among these three, unless the person we CV is exactly the Traitor/Mafia, or the person we track is the Mafia. I'm fine with anyone of them being picked. Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 06:43 Radfield wrote:
If he isn't eventually killed by mafia(which would be foolish of mafia) we should lynch him. The way I see it, Mafia most likely will not hit the CV, unless the CV is about to hit one of their own. Even if the Town uses the CV to hit one of their own, they might just let it slip by. Think about it, it would be very difficult for the Mafia to win with 1 KP against 10+ Pro-Town players left in the game. As long as the Town is able to choose the right targets, then we should be good.
I think the reason chaoser is being left out of the equation for now, or at least my reason, is that if he's town, he has a really sweet role. He can confirm 4 people as innocent in one swipe if he gets lucky. But if we can't get much out of tonight, he skyrockets up the list.
My thoughts on the CV, were that if rastaban is town(which the mafia will know), then his CV works exactly as a double lynch. I would say at this stage in the game a double lynch every day is extremely helpful. We kill 2 scummy players to every 1 confirmed player the mafia can kill. He's a huge town asset. That being said, we'll probably have to end up lynching him at some point if we run out of leads, so mafia killing kinda helps us anyways. Win-win for us if he's town.
Jeejee, the reason you're on my scum list, is that you've said very little in this game, and had very very little content. You have yet to make a single suggestion on CV/lynching(you've voted though) or on night actions. Yet, you absolutely came alive on the zeks lynch, posting frequently. From a point of view where you are mafia this makes sense. You can push hard for his lynch because you know he's not mafia, and you know he's not town so it won't look bad. That is pretty much the only time you've actually posted a fair amount. There are a few other nitpicky things, but you really haven't posted any opinions at all for anyone to analyze or link. Nor have you actually tried to make a case against anyone, or really weighed in much on these traitor shenanigans.
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On August 31 2010 09:24 Radfield wrote:
My thoughts on the CV, were that if rastaban is town(which the mafia will know), then his CV works exactly as a double lynch. I would say at this stage in the game a double lynch every day is extremely helpful. We kill 2 scummy players to every 1 confirmed player the mafia can kill. He's a huge town asset. That being said, we'll probably have to end up lynching him at some point if we run out of leads, so mafia killing kinda helps us anyways. Win-win for us if he's town.
I know what you mean, but you're missing the point, again. I'm just trying to look and explain from a Mafia stand point; It would also be Win-Win situation for the Mafia if the Town gets the wrong target, and would be reasonable for them to keep the CV alive. It's just the same logic. Basically, the outcome is determined by how well the Town uses the CV, and this is the most important part.
On an unrelated note, a lot of people seem to have gone MIA for the past 48 hours, including rastaban himself.
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On August 31 2010 08:23 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 01:15 bumatlarge wrote:Rofl at all these ego trips Ive got nothing better planned so ill follow up on that pandian. Indeed JeeJee seems the last person we can hope to be joat, and while its an important role, it isnt our last hope. We already have a bunch of blues running around, we just need to protect them. There is a good chance that those middle people are scum/defensive roles, so I doubt we will see a hit on them. If joat is here, he should probably protect a claimed blue tonight. In fact joat should protect fishball, and a doc should protect opz, unless we plan on hitting one. I feel like I get less priority then the other 2. So if you wanna take a chance, a doc can protect me  Again, darth and divine set off bells for me. Fish opz and rad seem like bickering blues trying to get info, but grabbing the wrong roles is fishy. can you tell me why im setting off bells for you, instead of just throwing around random suspicion. You can't have some cookie cutter mold of what a mafia player is supposed to be like, every person is different and does different things for different reasons. I feel like im being too quiet but i really have nothing to contribute, i totally agree with who you have chosen for the following actions bar something crazy happening. I'm glad at least darth and radfield have an accurate read on me. But this could naturally be because one of them has too much information! It's hard to get motivated to look into people too heavily when it's practically already decided on who is to die. At least for now that is. too much drama here, but it does certainly set off some bells of mine. Drama seems to lead to one of the dramees being on the wrong side, at least most of the time
I don't like the BM vig hit. I think it was uncalled for, just because he was BM. It's an easy way to lower the town count and get away with it. You could have waited til day 2 at least. It's not like your day vig powers would be revoked from you. I think it was a silly move for a townie to make.
Plus I like BM 
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Just... pay attention to the flip tonight. And CV South.
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Canada5652 Posts
On August 31 2010 09:24 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 09:01 Fishball wrote:If LSB isn't Mafia, nor the traitor, tracking him would do nothing. Also, seems like everyone is leaving chaoser out of the equation. What if we hit SR and he flips Vanilla Townie, and tracking LSB gave us nothing? That leaves us with chaoser obviously, but I'm just saying. Either way, this issue most likely won't be resolved tonight no matter how we switch our actions among these three, unless the person we CV is exactly the Traitor/Mafia, or the person we track is the Mafia. I'm fine with anyone of them being picked. On August 31 2010 06:43 Radfield wrote:
If he isn't eventually killed by mafia(which would be foolish of mafia) we should lynch him. The way I see it, Mafia most likely will not hit the CV, unless the CV is about to hit one of their own. Even if the Town uses the CV to hit one of their own, they might just let it slip by. Think about it, it would be very difficult for the Mafia to win with 1 KP against 10+ Pro-Town players left in the game. As long as the Town is able to choose the right targets, then we should be good. I think the reason chaoser is being left out of the equation for now, or at least my reason, is that if he's town, he has a really sweet role. He can confirm 4 people as innocent in one swipe if he gets lucky. But if we can't get much out of tonight, he skyrockets up the list. My thoughts on the CV, were that if rastaban is town(which the mafia will know), then his CV works exactly as a double lynch. I would say at this stage in the game a double lynch every day is extremely helpful. We kill 2 scummy players to every 1 confirmed player the mafia can kill. He's a huge town asset. That being said, we'll probably have to end up lynching him at some point if we run out of leads, so mafia killing kinda helps us anyways. Win-win for us if he's town. Jeejee, the reason you're on my scum list, is that you've said very little in this game, and had very very little content. You have yet to make a single suggestion on CV/lynching(you've voted though) or on night actions. Yet, you absolutely came alive on the zeks lynch, posting frequently. From a point of view where you are mafia this makes sense. You can push hard for his lynch because you know he's not mafia, and you know he's not town so it won't look bad. That is pretty much the only time you've actually posted a fair amount. There are a few other nitpicky things, but you really haven't posted any opinions at all for anyone to analyze or link. Nor have you actually tried to make a case against anyone, or really weighed in much on these traitor shenanigans.
how would the mafia know zeks isn't town?
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On August 31 2010 09:38 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 09:24 Radfield wrote:
My thoughts on the CV, were that if rastaban is town(which the mafia will know), then his CV works exactly as a double lynch. I would say at this stage in the game a double lynch every day is extremely helpful. We kill 2 scummy players to every 1 confirmed player the mafia can kill. He's a huge town asset. That being said, we'll probably have to end up lynching him at some point if we run out of leads, so mafia killing kinda helps us anyways. Win-win for us if he's town.
I know what you mean, but you're missing the point, again. I'm just trying to look and explain from a Mafia stand point; It would also be Win-Win situation for the Mafia if the Town gets the wrong target, and would be reasonable for them to keep the CV alive. It's just the same logic. Basically, the outcome is determined by how well the Town uses the CV, and this is the most important part. On an unrelated note, a lot of people seem to have gone MIA for the past 48 hours, including rastaban himself.
I hear what you're saying and I mainly agree. I guess what I'm trying to get across is that even if we mishit townies with the CV, we're still hitting townies we otherwise would have to lynch. Hitting scummy townies who are second in line for lynching is still a big benefit to town. It means we get to narrow down our mafia lists really quickly. I guess I just don't see any difference between the CV hit and our lynch(assuming rastaban follows the plan).
Again for the record, if I die tonight my list(without traitor) is Jeejee, Darth, Fishball, Brownbear, Siniquity in that order.
Chaoser needs to be dealt with if he doesn't produce results. Same with Fishball.
Townies in my eyes are Pandain, Bumatlarge and Opz. Then Divinek and probably Citizen and Southrawrea.
Hope this helps if I die.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On August 31 2010 09:51 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 09:24 Radfield wrote:On August 31 2010 09:01 Fishball wrote:If LSB isn't Mafia, nor the traitor, tracking him would do nothing. Also, seems like everyone is leaving chaoser out of the equation. What if we hit SR and he flips Vanilla Townie, and tracking LSB gave us nothing? That leaves us with chaoser obviously, but I'm just saying. Either way, this issue most likely won't be resolved tonight no matter how we switch our actions among these three, unless the person we CV is exactly the Traitor/Mafia, or the person we track is the Mafia. I'm fine with anyone of them being picked. On August 31 2010 06:43 Radfield wrote:
If he isn't eventually killed by mafia(which would be foolish of mafia) we should lynch him. The way I see it, Mafia most likely will not hit the CV, unless the CV is about to hit one of their own. Even if the Town uses the CV to hit one of their own, they might just let it slip by. Think about it, it would be very difficult for the Mafia to win with 1 KP against 10+ Pro-Town players left in the game. As long as the Town is able to choose the right targets, then we should be good. I think the reason chaoser is being left out of the equation for now, or at least my reason, is that if he's town, he has a really sweet role. He can confirm 4 people as innocent in one swipe if he gets lucky. But if we can't get much out of tonight, he skyrockets up the list. My thoughts on the CV, were that if rastaban is town(which the mafia will know), then his CV works exactly as a double lynch. I would say at this stage in the game a double lynch every day is extremely helpful. We kill 2 scummy players to every 1 confirmed player the mafia can kill. He's a huge town asset. That being said, we'll probably have to end up lynching him at some point if we run out of leads, so mafia killing kinda helps us anyways. Win-win for us if he's town. Jeejee, the reason you're on my scum list, is that you've said very little in this game, and had very very little content. You have yet to make a single suggestion on CV/lynching(you've voted though) or on night actions. Yet, you absolutely came alive on the zeks lynch, posting frequently. From a point of view where you are mafia this makes sense. You can push hard for his lynch because you know he's not mafia, and you know he's not town so it won't look bad. That is pretty much the only time you've actually posted a fair amount. There are a few other nitpicky things, but you really haven't posted any opinions at all for anyone to analyze or link. Nor have you actually tried to make a case against anyone, or really weighed in much on these traitor shenanigans. how would the mafia know zeks isn't town?
Because at that point we knew he was either Sk or traitor, and mafia would know he wasn't SK. In fact, if Sub actually did draft at Role Cop, then you would know that zeks couldnt be BP or vet. Once Bums watcher analysis came out, you would know that zeks had to be traitor.
I think that makes sense
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
EBWOP: You would know zeks had to be SK(not traitor)
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
Mafia would have know zeks was SK the moment that Bums watcher business got cleared up by Ace.(Assuming that Sub went for Role Cop)
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![[image loading]](http://www.molinare.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/black-sun-skullsresized.jpg) Day 3
Radfield Vanilla Towny has been killed!
With 14 alive, it is 7 to lynch!
Day 3 ends in 48 hours at 9PM ET /10KST on Wednesday Sept1st/Thursday Sept 2nd.
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RADFIELD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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1. Was anyone roleblocked.
2. What was the result of the watcher/tracker.
3.Fishball who did you check and what was the result.
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Wait a minute... there was only one death.
CV must've been roleblocked. Or he didn't shoot -.-
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
GG Town, GG Mafia
Have Fun
Now I can actually spend more time working and less time playing mafia
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Ima shoot myself in the foot or head or genitals if mafia NKed to frame me D: or something like that.. I can only hope for good results :/.
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EBWOP
nvm doesn't make sense for CV to kill Radfield. It was mafia.
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Why is SR alive? Opz, Fishball, what did you find?
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So CV hit bulletproof? or Mafia did? *confused*
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I checked SiNiquity.
He does not have a gun.
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EPT
