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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 17 2012 01:50 GMT
#101
Hi everybody! Im the friendly neighbourhood gum on your shoe! Today I come to you with a plan that'll hopefully shed some light on the certainly vile nature of the scum infesting our sacred house...OF GAMBLING! The plan is a simple anonymous poll asking wether your a townie or a scumie. Now in the case of the townie there is no risk whatsoever in voting townie, on acounta a) you are a townie and b) no one can say otherwise cause your voting anonymously. In fact I very much so ask that you don't say which one your voting for or wether or not your even voting at all. All I ask is that if you're a townie vote townie, or don't vote, please don't troll and say your mafia I REPEAT NO TOWNIES VOTE MAFIA, IT SHALL BE THE END OF US ALL!!!!!! This only works if all the townies voting vote townie so please do so if your a townie. If your mafia feel free to vote as well, in fact the whole purpose of this exercise is to see if you as a group abstain from voting, vote as you please, or all vote townie. This is an experiment to study the mafia and I promise to only do this once, so whata ya say newcomers! Watcha gonna be? I'd just likely to repeat one last time there is ABSOLUTELY no way I or anyone else can ascertain your alignment through this vote, so please give it a shot, it might very well teach us something useful.

Poll: Anonymous vote: are YOU mafia?

Mafioso (20)
 
77%

Townie (6)
 
23%

26 total votes

Your vote: Anonymous vote: are YOU mafia?

(Vote): Townie
(Vote): Mafioso

gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 17 2012 02:00 GMT
#102
Remember guys this move can only hurt the mafia because the onus is on them to be dishonest, thier best move here is to all vote as who they are so that the only information this poll yields is the information we already knew, the fact that their are four mafia.

If they react as such then that speaks volumes of either their experience or their naivety, and the worst move a mafia can possibly do in light of all this is try and discredit the poll, because once again it poses no harm to town whatsoever! Town wants to be as honest as possible without making themselves an easy target! Which this poll is perfect for!
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
February 17 2012 02:00 GMT
#103
That's... original. Also more people voting than are posting in the thread, which is worrying unless we've picked up an audience of trolls already.





MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
February 17 2012 02:01 GMT
#104
The vets watching us are going to have a field day with that one, gumshoe :/

As you obviously can't ascertain anyone's alignment through this poll, and the polling isn't closed only to players of this game, what exactly about the mafia were you planning on studying?
Trust in Bayes.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
February 17 2012 02:04 GMT
#105
On February 17 2012 10:50 gumshoe wrote:
Hi everybody! Im the friendly neighbourhood gum on your shoe! Today I come to you with a plan that'll hopefully shed some light on the certainly vile nature of the scum infesting our sacred house...OF GAMBLING! The plan is a simple anonymous poll asking wether your a townie or a scumie. Now in the case of the townie there is no risk whatsoever in voting townie, on acounta a) you are a townie and b) no one can say otherwise cause your voting anonymously. In fact I very much so ask that you don't say which one your voting for or wether or not your even voting at all. All I ask is that if you're a townie vote townie, or don't vote, please don't troll and say your mafia I REPEAT NO TOWNIES VOTE MAFIA, IT SHALL BE THE END OF US ALL!!!!!! This only works if all the townies voting vote townie so please do so if your a townie. If your mafia feel free to vote as well, in fact the whole purpose of this exercise is to see if you as a group abstain from voting, vote as you please, or all vote townie. This is an experiment to study the mafia and I promise to only do this once, so whata ya say newcomers! Watcha gonna be? I'd just likely to repeat one last time there is ABSOLUTELY no way I or anyone else can ascertain your alignment through this vote, so please give it a shot, it might very well teach us something useful.

Poll: Anonymous vote: are YOU mafia?

Mafioso (20)
 
77%

Townie (6)
 
23%

26 total votes

Your vote: Anonymous vote: are YOU mafia?

(Vote): Townie
(Vote): Mafioso




I loled soo hard reading this.

As for me, I played one more game of mafia, but it was the biggest fail human kind has ever witnessed. There were 80 players in it, and it ended with the scum offering a draw, cause the city was that bad, T_T. I was a towny needless to say.
Here's the link, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690

I think I'm with jaj on the lurker lynching. Since unless some serious slips happen it's our best bet for scumhunt.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
February 17 2012 02:11 GMT
#106
Gumshoe I think you're mafia. for that poll.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
MannerKiss
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2398 Posts
February 17 2012 02:11 GMT
#107
On February 17 2012 10:29 DoYouHas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 10:09 MidnightGladius wrote:
On the last occasion that the town faced unfavorable odds, Newbie Mini Mafia III, the lack of mafia power roles and relative abundance of innocent power roles helped to balance the setup, and I think that it will be the same here.


Newbie Mini Mafia III was 4/9, that is very different from 4/11. I see the normal mafia to town ratio as being 1/4. As such I think we are pretty close and cannot speculate as to the number of roles or what roles are in the game.



First game here, looking forward to some fun
I want an igloo.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
February 17 2012 02:13 GMT
#108
since people are posting their metas:

Mr. Wiggles Mini: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=296791&user=152817

TL Mafia L: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=152817

GMarshall's Normal Mini: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306452&user=152817

aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
February 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#109
On February 17 2012 10:35 jaj22 wrote:

Do I want to lynch lurkers on day 1? At a gut level, absolutely. It's not necessarily optimal though. If we have someone who's both active and scummy, lynching them is a better choice. However, that's much more likely if we don't let people lurk, so it's important to maintain a real threat.



I agree, we should lynch lurkers. in a 12 man setup, Mafia can't lurk as easily or they lose like nubs. Newbie III is an example. with 15, they can hide away, as we lynch scummy looking newbs.

If sloosh doesnt post within 12-24 hours, I'm going to presume that it's because he was busy posting in scum QT.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
February 17 2012 02:25 GMT
#110
@Gumshoe: Did you get some RL buddies to spam your own vote, just in case it was accidentally useful?

@Steveling: I see you lynched Palmar on your first day. Not the greatest start to a mafia career. Fortunately we don't have any awesome scumhunting veterans in this game. Or mayors.

trackd00r
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Chile284 Posts
February 17 2012 02:29 GMT
#111
Hello my fellow townies
Well, this is my first mafia game ever and I'm eager to see how everything turns out from here!
Regarding lynch policies, I prefer the idea of not to lynch lurkers, but instead to pressure them to post. When the first votes are cast, we will hopefully see the reactions each one has. An inactive town is an easy prey for scum I guess...
But, something I want to get clear is the fact of discussing the actual lynch policies. If we don't reach an agreement in a considerable amount of time, we might end up talking about this topic until the end of day 1, giving mafia more place to hide. This kind of discussion is not useful after the first reads and cases are made, plus it'll be just. So I persuade to you to give fast and concrete opinions regarding lynches so we can hunt scum afterwards

I see familiar faces from Newbie Mini Mafia III (sl0sh, DoYouHas, Midnghtgladuis, zelblade). I followed very closely that game, so I'm keeping an eye on you!

By the way, that poll is just lol.... How are we going to keep non-players from voting? :/
''They put signs, but I can't read''
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
February 17 2012 02:32 GMT
#112
On February 17 2012 11:29 trackd00r wrote:
By the way, that poll is just lol.... How are we going to keep non-players from voting? :/


If you think lingering on lurker discussion too long is a bad idea, then you should know that that poll is an even more useless time sink.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
February 17 2012 02:33 GMT
#113
On February 17 2012 09:02 GreYMisT wrote:
................................................................................................
I really just blew my 2k post on you guys...............................

You guys better play your goddamned best.

I laughed so hard; I promise to bring you my very best, and we newbies appreciate you (and TL mafia community) much so.



Now onto more serious matters:

I don't think there is much benefit to talking about town-setups especially so early in the game.
It is all speculation, and not substantial evidence we can use day 1. Lets hold that off for later.

Second, I also participated in Newbie Mafia III along with DoYouHas, Zelblade and MidnightGladius.

Third:
I really don't understand what the heck gumshoe is doing.Why would he explain the intentions of his poll in the next post when doing so renders his plan ineffective as he openly describes how mafia should/shouldn't act? The poll does pose harm to town as I don't see any benefits and it clutters the thread/distracts focus.

I think it a bad idea - but too early to figure if it is newbie play or anti-town.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 17 2012 02:33 GMT
#114
On February 17 2012 11:11 EchelonTee wrote:
Gumshoe I think you're mafia. for that poll.


Why in tarnations would you think that? Seriously though the purpose of the random ass poll was just to see if the mafia made one big decision or not, unfortunately less that 12 people out of the 15 voted so I cant say that they took any part in this vote, nor can I say that they didn't, what I can tell is that its highly likely that at some point around when town began to treat the poll as the sorta joke it seemed, and all voted the mafia option AGAINST my wishes(as I pretty much predicted), the mafia probably hoped on the happy train of cynicism to discredit the pole and not stand out. So this pole has been somewhat useful in showing that at least two or maybe even all four of the mafia are being active early on. Wether that information is useful or not you can decide for yourself, but you cant blame me for trying ) :
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
February 17 2012 02:34 GMT
#115
On February 17 2012 11:25 jaj22 wrote:
@Gumshoe: Did you get some RL buddies to spam your own vote, just in case it was accidentally useful?

@Steveling: I see you lynched Palmar on your first day. Not the greatest start to a mafia career. Fortunately we don't have any awesome scumhunting veterans in this game. Or mayors.



Yeah, that was ...unfortunate, Q_Q.
But, I did have the best scumreads based on clues in that game. Well that was all I could do so I spent a lot of time into these.
Also in my defense all the towny veterans where cockfighting each other so it was impossible for a newbie to tell who was what.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 17 2012 02:35 GMT
#116
Oh in case you hadn't noticed I have never played a game of mafia.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 17 2012 02:36 GMT
#117
On February 17 2012 11:25 jaj22 wrote:
@Gumshoe: Did you get some RL buddies to spam your own vote, just in case it was accidentally useful?

@Steveling: I see you lynched Palmar on your first day. Not the greatest start to a mafia career. Fortunately we don't have any awesome scumhunting veterans in this game. Or mayors.



I was actually worried about rls spamming the vote ( : that compromises its usefulness.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
February 17 2012 02:36 GMT
#118
On February 17 2012 11:33 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 11:11 EchelonTee wrote:
Gumshoe I think you're mafia. for that poll.


Why in tarnations would you think that? Seriously though the purpose of the random ass poll was just to see if the mafia made one big decision or not, unfortunately less that 12 people out of the 15 voted so I cant say that they took any part in this vote, nor can I say that they didn't, what I can tell is that its highly likely that at some point around when town began to treat the poll as the sorta joke it seemed, and all voted the mafia option AGAINST my wishes(as I pretty much predicted), the mafia probably hoped on the happy train of cynicism to discredit the pole and not stand out. So this pole has been somewhat useful in showing that at least two or maybe even all four of the mafia are being active early on. Wether that information is useful or not you can decide for yourself, but you cant blame me for trying ) :


I would like it if you divided your walls of text into paragraphs; it took me a few to fathom your post, when I realized you're not saying anything.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 17 2012 02:43 GMT
#119
On February 17 2012 11:36 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 11:33 gumshoe wrote:
On February 17 2012 11:11 EchelonTee wrote:
Gumshoe I think you're mafia. for that poll.


Why in tarnations would you think that? Seriously though the purpose of the random ass poll was just to see if the mafia made one big decision or not, unfortunately less that 12 people out of the 15 voted so I cant say that they took any part in this vote, nor can I say that they didn't, what I can tell is that its highly likely that at some point around when town began to treat the poll as the sorta joke it seemed, and all voted the mafia option AGAINST my wishes(as I pretty much predicted), the mafia probably hoped on the happy train of cynicism to discredit the pole and not stand out. So this pole has been somewhat useful in showing that at least two or maybe even all four of the mafia are being active early on. Wether that information is useful or not you can decide for yourself, but you cant blame me for trying ) :


I would like it if you divided your walls of text into paragraphs; it took me a few to fathom your post, when I realized you're not saying anything.


K very simple

I

wanted

to

see

if

any

voting patterns

formed

within the poll

It was like a lynch simulator

But less than 12 people have voted in the pole therefore any conjecture regarding any mafia patterns is at the moment useless.

Because it's possible that none of the mafia voted given that town thinks the poll is stupid and just posted on it randomly or trolingly.

Discredit it until theres twelve votes or just discredit it period if you so please.

That is all.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
February 17 2012 02:44 GMT
#120
Here is the list of player filters. More resources in town hands!!!

1.) gumshoe
2.) blae000
3.) Alderan
4.) EchelonTee
5.) DoYouHas
6.) MannerKiss
7.) Steveling
8.) trackd00r
9.) MidnightGladius
10.) slOosh
11.) Janaan
12.) TKHawkins
13.) DimmuKlok
14.) zelblade
15.) jaj22
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