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On December 15 2011 09:07 GiygaS wrote:
But what I was saying is you proposed this system in the first place, I was just adding some specifics, and then you immediately pulled a 180 with 0 explanation on the subject.
My suggestion would hold the pardoner acountable of his actions. You're suggesting is a minority majority vote and I think it can be abused by mafia.
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lol you weren't addressing me at all
MY BAD
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Eiii the District Attorney has been killed.
Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the district attorney! Once per game, you may nullify all election votes for target player. Your action cannot be submitted within 2 hours of the end of the day cycle. You win with town.
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Was Eiii's District Attorney ability the same as the ability that was used on Arctocod last night?
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Alrighty here's the situation for me as it stands:
I still don't like risk.nuke. Look at his actions at the beginning of the game when there was not a single chance he would be elected:
On December 13 2011 23:54 risk.nuke wrote:
I think Arctocod is likely mafia but I'm not going to do anything about that now. He will have to play pro-town because I will watch him like a hawk.
Todays lynches I would like one of these two. Graymist and GiygaS. Though there is a dilemma. I am more sure on Graymist then on Giygas and we'll learn more from Graymists flip then Giygas. Against Graymist probably beeing a more valuable townie then Giygas.
He thinks Arctocod is likely Mafia but never tries anything to stop the candidacy. Even after I started arguing that Arctocod should be Pardoner and Radfield Mayor he did not say a word against it despite Pardoner being the stronger Mafia role. Yet suddenly after the Arctocod withdrawal he immediately runs for Pardoner on the basis that he "doesn't want it to fall into Mafia hands."
He has not said a single word against me or even mentioned me before in his posts besides to say he is unsure about me. He argues the basis of him not wanting me in office is because GreyMist is voting for me; GreyMist was also voting for Arctocod, who risk said he believed was likely Mafia but again he did not say a single word of protest at that time. At that time there was 0 chance risk would be elected; after the Arctocod withdrawal when the situation was hectic he suddenly throws in his candidacy on the basis that he doesn't want Mafia to get the position. Where was this position earlier? He didn't even try to argue against the Arctocod election despite saying he thought he was likely Mafia.
His actions leading up to the lynch are ridiculous. He's saying anyone who votes for Nisani is scum. Look at how ridiculous this post is:
On December 14 2011 11:02 risk.nuke wrote:No I'll be damned if you actually lynch nisani. ANYONE who votes for him I will consider to be scum. same for Zentor. Why? Because if they were mafia their buddies would had putten a stop to this ages ago. Now I'll tell you something about bandwagons. Bandwagons are almost always influenced by mafia. due to the uncertainty of townies it's nearly impossible for a bandwagon to kick of without the mafia influencing it. Thats why in 99% bandwagon cases you're either lynching a townie or scum is bussing.
Anyone who tries to lead a lynch is scummy? It must be scum influenced? What kind of dumb thinking is this? During this time leading to the lynch he has not pushed a single candidate or done any analysis, merely claiming that he saved Zentor and Nisani (neither is remotely close to true). So let's go back, he thinks Mafia can take advantage of the time of chaos, he thinks the lynch candidates are bad, he thinks this is the time Town is most vulnerable and that he can salvage the Town. Yet he has zero, count it zero, real analysis on anyone. All he does is call GreyMist scum because of a "gut feeling."
And now this gem:
On December 15 2011 08:07 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 08:06 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 15 2011 08:02 risk.nuke wrote:On December 15 2011 08:00 GreYMisT wrote:On December 15 2011 07:58 risk.nuke wrote:On December 15 2011 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 14 2011 11:02 risk.nuke wrote:No I'll be damned if you actually lynch nisani. ANYONE who votes for him I will consider to be scum. same for Zentor. Why? Because if they were mafia their buddies would had putten a stop to this ages ago. Now I'll tell you something about bandwagons. Bandwagons are almost always influenced by mafia. due to the uncertainty of townies it's nearly impossible for a bandwagon to kick of without the mafia influencing it. Thats why in 99% bandwagon cases you're either lynching a townie or scum is bussing. Okay, this post. What is going on with this post? He's threatening to attack anyone who votes for the 2 present lynch candidates (or so I gather from the thread - the consensus seems to be that the lynch is either Zentor or Nisani). Why? Because if they were mafia, their buddies would had putten a stop to this ages ago. You know, like he's doing here. He backs it up with fear tactics (Bandwagons almost always "influenced by mafia") and imaginary statistics (99% bandwagon cases you're either lynching a townie or scum is bussing). My read on risk.nuke gets redder and redder. Why isn't anyone considering this guy seriously? You do realise that YOU are nisani... He was saying that zentor and nisani were the top lynch candidates at that time, not that they should be now... No he was saying I am red. And his case builds around the fact that MrZentor and Nisani is scum and I'm their scumbuddy coming to protect them. No, I'm building a case based around your scummy bullshit bro. I never said they were red (and yes, I realize I'm Nisani). What I said was you were putting a stop to their lynch with your post, though I can see how you'd think that's what I meant. I was saying that the way you were going about stopping the lynch was scummy. So your case is I'm scummy because I'm stopping a lynch on two townies, okey now I get your logic.
lol you somehow conclusively know that Nisani and Zentor are Townie now? Most of the people against their lynch were against it because they had not done anything to show they were Town or scum either way. But you somehow are sure they are Town. Scumslip much?
Cwave declared his candidacy on the basis that he is a dedicated and aggressive scumhunter. He throws his vote on Zentor making sure to note that Radfield is the one who is responsible for the lynch. Doesn't post or contribute at all, comes back and tries to make all the people on the Spaackle lynch look bad without explaining anything about why the reasoning or cases behind the lynch were bad.
His main candidates for scumminess today seem to be Radfield and MrZentor, and he makes sure to state again that he thinks MrZentor is scummy because of Radfield. But wait what, if you also think Radfield is scum why are you still pushing something you thought was drawn out by him?
Look how much attention he is trying to draw on the people who voted Spaackle:
On December 14 2011 22:52 Cwave wrote:
Eiii, Greymist, LiquidSeth, Refallen, Radfield, Risk.nuke, Comprissent, Nyc and Liquid all voted for Spaackle in the last hour AND had a vote out before that. And last but not least ProfBad who switched from Spaackles to risk.nuke to..... Spaackles.
Tsk tsk tsk. Scum!
Blanket statement trying to draw attention to everyone who voted for Spaackle. No mention of why the case was bad. No real analysis mounted on any of them, seems hesitant to try to lead anything concrete on anyone hoping instead it will take off and he won't be seen at the head.
I dislike how Sheth played the part of bandwagon hero in crunch time last night. His votes and thoughts jumped around to whatever people asked him. A lot of "I'm okay with this" and "I'll do this if I have to" posts, he never really took an initiative on his own. He never seemed particularly interested in who was actually going to be lynched, it felt like he was just riding along with popular Town sentiment.
TotallyNotTwoPeople has been completely worthless, disappearing at crucial times. Unfortunately this has been the case for many players at this point.
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I highly doubt Eiii was responsible for the Arctocod stepdown.
On December 14 2011 10:57 Eiii wrote:
Given that this is ELECTION MAFIA, the whole step-down thing is definitely a red power. Last night I wouldn't have been comfortable with either deus or prof in an elected role, but now that prof is actually posting I'm going to be voting for him. I'm kind of undecided on the lynch, but it's not going to be on zentor. unvoting and rereading.
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rofl, that was our fault, sorry Eiii.
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Ehm, didn't GiygaS say he sent Eiii that box?
Also was it Eiii's abillity that hit Arctocod, it seems to fit.
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On December 15 2011 09:26 Arctocod wrote:
rofl, that was our fault, sorry Eiii.
did you send him a letterbomb or something?
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On December 15 2011 09:27 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 09:26 Arctocod wrote:
rofl, that was our fault, sorry Eiii. did you send him a letterbomb or something?
yeah-ish, it was our fault, I guess that's enough for you.
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Yeah, that's my bad. Arc gave me the message to send it to Eiii, we should have waited for his response to the accusations. I take full responsibilty, and should have said no.  SORRY EIII
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Palmogism, what are your thoughts on risk.nuke please? As completely as you can.
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@GiygaS
So, Arctocod told you to send Eiii a bomb? You guys have the ability to send a "package" that will contain either a private message or a bomb, and Arctocod told you in a private message to send a bomb to Eiii?
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And Palmogism, why did you select GiygaS to be your vessel of destruction?
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I sent him a way to tell me who to kill, as I for some reason thought a basically confirmed townie meant that his judgement would be more correct than others. When he bolded Eiii after 2 line-breaks was my cue to kill him. Again guys, I'm so sorry
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On December 15 2011 09:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmogism, what are your thoughts on risk.nuke please? As completely as you can.
it's 00:30 am now, so this is gonna be short.
I think he's being completely illogical and insane, I have yet to decide if that makes him scum.
I would like him to simply claim if he's mason with DropBear, that would help tremendously.
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On December 15 2011 09:39 GiygaS wrote:I sent him a way to tell me who to kill, as I for some reason thought a basically confirmed townie meant that his judgement would be more correct than others. When he bolded Eiii after 2 line-breaks was my cue to kill him. Again guys, I'm so sorry
don't worry about it. It's on us.
You're basically confirmed town now anyway, so stay active and help scumhunt.
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EPT
