Newbie Mini Mafia XXXI - Page 54

On November 30 2012 10:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
SDM, I think that you should think about why you are voting me instead of Aqua.

On November 30 2012 10:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I read that you are town by far, thats why I healed you and I assume scum attacked you n1

On November 30 2012 10:17 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Ok back sorry something came up... Do we take the gamble? Because there is another scum in the mix if we don't vote for oats. (assuming he is scum) And nobody has a problem voting oats. (until now) which to me gave me the idea scum were on board. This is the same thing I felt but ignored with munk-e.

On November 30 2012 10:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
D3 we lynch CC :D

On November 30 2012 11:00 yamato77 wrote:
Pretty sure no lynch is an option if none of you can make a real decision.

On November 29 2012 18:09 Aquanim wrote:
I can't shake the feeling that Oatsmaster is capable of much better posting than this.

It's kinda difficult to substantiate a read like this, but I have a few points:

1) The Cheesecake vote. This is in some ways a townish move - it started the first real discussion and got the real game underway. I was particularly liking this because I too had a difficult-to-define scum read from CC's first handful of posts. On the other hand, we discussed Oatsmaster's vote around and around through all of day one, and didn't really accomplish that much with it (he was just too random to lynch). Perhaps this was his intention?

2) These posts:


This would seem to indicate to me that he isn't just playing badly, he's aware of what he is doing. I mean, his posts were kinda better day two until the lolswitch onto Jacob (and tbh I think there's a worthwhile case to be made on Helo out there) but still...

3) The hammer thing:


I knew full well what a hammer is. (Check this one out sometime, it's hilarious.) But anyone who knows what a hammer is, or has even heard of one, either read a GSL mafia game, in detail, or has experience with mafia offsite (the concept only applies to instant lynch), which is more experience than I'd expect someone posting like Oats to have.
For that matter, Oatsmaster made the sixth vote with nine players, so it's not even like his vote gave Munk-E a majority of the votes. Again, something I would expect someone who knows about hammers at all to know.

4) Grammar. It's not that hard to make a little effort. Everyone else in the game is. And I for one find uncapitalised, unpunctuated posts harder to read and tend to glaze over them. Again, perhaps this is intentional.

Look, none of these point are a slam-dunk, and it's not like I have any meta to work with. But the outline they sketch out is interesting - I see a player TRYING to look bad (apologies if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am). And Oats is not contributing anything towards a town victory. Daft town is quite capable of doing that too, but the simplest explanation is scum.

##Vote: Oatsmaster

On November 30 2012 06:13 Aquanim wrote:
I can't see us having more than two power roles, and (probably) not less than two either. If they all claim, and we ended up with three including Oats that would be an effective counterclaim. Having all the PRs claim seems pretty ridiculous though, and I don't think it's worth it.

I can't distinguish anything Oats has done since my vote between "oh crap, I'm doctor about to be lynched" and "oh crap, I'm scum about to be lynched". I reckon his posting quality has improved maybe a little, but that doesn't tell me anything. And claiming doctor and a protect on SDM is about as obvious and easy a fake-claim as claiming VT, esp. without a crumb.

Dammit! If you're a doctor, I'm really sorry, but I just. can't. tell. And I still have no better reads, and I still think this read won't improve.

Vote sticks. I have 5 minutes before I have to leave, and I won't be back before lynch. In the event of a massclaim, which I do not endorse, it may be possible for me to leave a message with someone and have them post it.