chuckled quietly, damning the town under his breath!

At least there were some people smart enough to not jump on the band wagon!

This has nothing to do with the game but Chelsea Chelsea Chelsea~~!!

onihunter

United States515 Posts

June 08 2010 02:20 GMT

#1006

holy fuck a vigi modkilled? u can't be serious...

and akls;djf;laksdj poor moocow fuckkk

DarthThienAn

United States2734 Posts

June 08 2010 02:21 GMT

#1007

On June 08 2010 11:12 littlechava wrote:
How the fuck can you be inactive as the vigilante. That's the coolest role there is.

Well. Until you use it that is. lol.

But yea:

+ Show Spoiler +

On June 08 2010 11:10 LunarDestiny wrote:
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At least now we can take a look at them bandwagons though, eh?

Thegilaboy

United States2018 Posts

June 08 2010 02:21 GMT

#1008

God dammit Icy! Losing the vig to inactivity, that's a big blow for us...

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 08 2010 02:22 GMT

#1009

Sorry man, I was the last vote.

Will probably take a more passive role from now on as my decision making is crap right now.

flamewheel

FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts

June 08 2010 02:22 GMT

#1010

On June 08 2010 11:14 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Well at least MooCow wasn't blue.

Can't believe we lost a godamn vigi for inactivity. What kind of fuck gets vigilante and never posts?

krndandaman, TL Mafia XXII I believe. Day 1 modkill, Vigilante role.

onihunter

United States515 Posts

June 08 2010 02:25 GMT

#1011

On June 08 2010 11:22 LunarDestiny wrote:
Sorry man, I was the last vote.

Will probably take a more passive role from now on as my decision making is crap right now.

I can't say it was exactly your fault lol...don't be so hard on yourself ^^

AcrossFiveJulys

United States3612 Posts

June 08 2010 02:25 GMT

#1012

Well, this is outcome B of the scenario I imagined: MooCow townie. Certainly we haven't lost anything significant, as I think most of us agree that deuce is a bored townie anyway and MooCow was a bad townie. What we do have is a list of people who were persuaded (by me and zeks, mostly) to vote for MooCow. We should start scraping for clues around this mess.

flamewheel

FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts

June 08 2010 02:27 GMT

#1013

Oh yeah, and get night actions to me kthxbai~

I'll be back in a few hours.

AcrossFiveJulys

United States3612 Posts

June 08 2010 02:31 GMT

#1014

On June 08 2010 11:22 LunarDestiny wrote:
Sorry man, I was the last vote.

Will probably take a more passive role from now on as my decision making is crap right now.

No, I started the bandwagon and ended up trying pretty hard to persuade everybody including you at the end. I'm certainly not going to stop posting and neither should you.

zeks

Canada1068 Posts

June 08 2010 02:44 GMT

#1015

Ai....the 3 warned people can you please do something ? Why go through the trouble of signing up for a game that you're not going to play?

Misder

United States1557 Posts

June 08 2010 02:55 GMT

#1016

Crap. Im going to be really pissed off is deuce is actually mafia. That would have been my third and least likely outcome that I posted. All that analysis for nothing...

littlechava

United States7218 Posts

June 08 2010 03:17 GMT

#1017

Brief analysis of zeks' posting since Day 2:
#679 Explanation for inactivity. Says clue analysis tells more than the actual clues. Claims that if we lose blue roles, we should start looking towards the elected roles as being guilty parties.

#737 Is against double lynch. Asks if PMs are different for a vet save vs a medic save.

#758 Says we should consider how organized the mafia are. How could we possibly know this? Tries to shunt attention off of deucegladlier by saying the rest of the mafia would stop him from being an idiot. Says he'd rather lynch a "middle of the pack" poster than someone who is inactive, even if the "middle of the pack" poster is a neutral figure.

#818 Argues against lynching inactives.

#820 Argues against early voting/"bandwagoning"

#823 Says he's "sort of okay with lynching deuce tonight"

#834 Says YellowInk and Darth seem like townies right now, but he assures us all that when problems occur they'll be "the first on the chopping block"

#838 Says if MooCow gets lynched and is red, he'd have more faith in the elected roles, because MooCow was trying to undermine them. Jumps onto AFJ's bandwagon.

#840 Explains that we should be aware of the piggybacking/bandwagoning/echoing of "middle of the line" posters.

#876 Outlines three points about Deuce probably being green: he hasn't stood up for himself, one sided votes, and a bandwagon (a fairly obvious one!).

#905 Gives more reasons we shouldn't lynch inactives. Says we should lynch MooCow instead, because we have more information on him, and he's been acting weird lately. Doesn't actually provide his own analysis of this weird behavior of MooCow.

#915 Argues that the original MooCow bandwagon aren't mafia because it's a risky move. Says MooCow is almost as useless as deuce is anyway, and if he turns out green getting him out is still more useful than getting deuce out.

#922 Asks onihunter to explain what MooCow's contributions are other than agreeing with others.

Pretty much all zeks' recent posts have been centering around how we SHOULDN'T be targetting inactives, which flies in the face of what is apparently common Mafia knowledge that inactives are often Mafia themselves. After AFJ posts his analysis claiming MooCow is suspicious, he jumps on the bandwagon immediately and campaigns for MooCow to get lynched instead of deucegladlier. The entire time he's campaigning against MooCow, there's very little analysis of his own, despite his protestation of piggybacking/bandwagoning.

Combine this with fishy behavior earlier in the game+clues on both days connected to him (Shikamaru is a ninja who can throw knives as well as manipulate shadows).

zeks

Canada1068 Posts

June 08 2010 03:36 GMT

#1018

If you ask AFJ I was with him from the start of the whole MooCow debacle. He provided the analysis, I provided the other justification and advantages of lynching him over deuce. I will state my thoughts about the whole voting process before all the night actions. I also think it would've been pretty redundant for me to analyze MooCow again after such a detailed analysis had been written by AFJ, which I found convincing.

I do take reponsibility for fucking up and hitting a green, but I don't regret getting Moo hung over deuce. I accept the fact that I'm much less credible now.

As for my post #915 - me arguing that the original bandwagon aren't mafia. It was not my intention to imply that although I do think AFJ is pro town. I was unimpressed by the fact that MooCow was just randomly pointing fingers at everyone mildly suspicious for the whole game. Once AFJ started attacking him he got all defensive which was what I found fishy. Also, to be honest I never would've thought we actually had a chance to lynch MooCow until the final 30 minutes and people started switching over - then the impossible happened.

I never knew it was common for Mafia to be inactive - I haven't personally gone through many Mafia games myself so I wouldn't know, but I would assume there would be a mix of active and inactive - and I still maintain that getting rid of the active ones is more important.

MTF

United States1739 Posts

June 08 2010 04:33 GMT

#1019

If you're going to sign up for a game of Mafia, actually play, please.

Flamewheel, I'm glad you have an actual penalty system set up for this beyond just getting killed in the game. It is infuriating.

I'm sorry to see MooCow go. He reminded me so much of going blindly into TL Mafia II. :p

DCLXVI

United States729 Posts

June 08 2010 04:37 GMT

#1020

Well that was quite the eventful vote. So much for me thinking that my vote switch would amount to nothing... Where does this put AFJ? no mafia could be stupid enough to try to convince the town to switch vote to a townie that obviously - unless he thinks that we will think that. I guess deuce is a much better lynch target now since we switched away from him and hit a townie. Is it too early to use a double lynch? - as in should we save them. I think this puts deuce and AFJ on the same side, whether it be townie or mafia, or at least deuce mafia if AFJ is mafia.