• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:37
CEST 01:37
KST 08:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202522Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder3EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced38BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings EWC 2025 - Replay Pack #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update Serral wins EWC 2025
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Shield Battery Server New Patch BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Recover Binance Asset - Lost Recovery Masters Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Flash @ Namkraft Laddernet …
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 610 users

MLG Orlando Red Day 2 Live Report Thread - Page 485

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 483 484 485 486 487 494 Next
muffley
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States280 Posts
October 16 2011 03:29 GMT
#9681
[image loading]
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
October 16 2011 03:30 GMT
#9682
Does anyone know the game in which Marineking got 31 barracks?
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
October 16 2011 03:30 GMT
#9683
On October 16 2011 12:29 fritos wrote:
Consider this too: There are far more less Koreans in MLG than foreigners.

So if there were 50% of Koreans and 50% of foreigners participating MLG from the very beginning, the result would be even more one-sided for Koreans


Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 12:24 hitpoint wrote:
On October 16 2011 12:20 windsupernova wrote:
lol, BTW for anyone interested in the Koreans vs the World crap.

Here is the recap:

Of the 4 pools:

3 had a Korean at the Top
2 had a foreigner in 2nd place
0 had Koreans at the bottom

And top 8:

5 Koreans
3 Foreigners

Top 16
10 Koreans
6 Foreigners

So... those posts about Korean domination being over seem kinda silly in hindsight.


Foreigners have been doing progressively better every MLG. Look how many took series/games off Koreans compared to the past. I don't think anyone said the Korean domination is over, but it's clearly getting better.



theres to many variables if you start imposing these kinds of conditions. Its still hard to say.
fritos
Profile Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 03:31:33
October 16 2011 03:30 GMT
#9684
Consider this too: There are far more less Koreans in MLG than foreigners.

So if there were 50% of Koreans and 50% of foreigners participating MLG from the very beginning, the result would be even more one-sided for Koreans.

///oops, didn't mean to post this twice....


QUOTE]On October 16 2011 12:24 hitpoint wrote:
On October 16 2011 12:20 windsupernova wrote:
lol, BTW for anyone interested in the Koreans vs the World crap.

Here is the recap:

Of the 4 pools:

3 had a Korean at the Top
2 had a foreigner in 2nd place
0 had Koreans at the bottom

And top 8:

5 Koreans
3 Foreigners

Top 16
10 Koreans
6 Foreigners

So... those posts about Korean domination being over seem kinda silly in hindsight.


Foreigners have been doing progressively better every MLG. Look how many took series/games off Koreans compared to the past. I don't think anyone said the Korean domination is over, but it's clearly getting better.[/QUOTE]
RoyAlex
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway420 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 03:35:33
October 16 2011 03:31 GMT
#9685
On October 16 2011 12:20 windsupernova wrote:
lol, BTW for anyone interested in the Koreans vs the World crap.

Here is the recap:

Of the 4 pools:

3 had a Korean at the Top
2 had a foreigner in 2nd place
0 had Koreans at the bottom

And top 8:

5 Koreans
3 Foreigners

Top 16
10 Koreans
6 Foreigners

So... those posts about Korean domination being over seem kinda silly in hindsight.


The korean that attended MLG this time was not the best of the best. I think Bomber and Hero is quite good, infact very good. But MVP is far better than bomber and many many Korean Zergs and Terrans are better than Hero.
But many of the best foreigners attended this MLG, like Huk, Idra, Jinro?, KiwiKaki, Sase, Ret and Stephano (still wating to se how far he will go, since he was not in pool play.)

None other than Huk managed to get in winners bracket, the rest got high up in champ bracket.
3vs1 korean/forigners in winners bracket, and 2 vs 2 korean/Forigners on the highest champion bracket level.

Its pretty clear that Koreans are getting pretty high up, and are better.
Only Korean protosses and Boxer and some open brackets Koreans got lower than the highest level in champ bracket.
killerbt
Profile Joined October 2011
United States9 Posts
October 16 2011 03:31 GMT
#9686
omg looking at the results i have a terrible feeling were gonna be looking at a ton of TvT towards the finals.....bleh
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
October 16 2011 03:33 GMT
#9687
On October 16 2011 12:31 RoyAlex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 12:20 windsupernova wrote:
lol, BTW for anyone interested in the Koreans vs the World crap.

Here is the recap:

Of the 4 pools:

3 had a Korean at the Top
2 had a foreigner in 2nd place
0 had Koreans at the bottom

And top 8:

5 Koreans
3 Foreigners

Top 16
10 Koreans
6 Foreigners

So... those posts about Korean domination being over seem kinda silly in hindsight.


The korean that attended MLG this time was not the best of the best. I think Bomber and Hero is quite good, infact very good. But MVP is far better than bomber and many many Zergs and Terrans are better than Hero.
But many of the best foreigners attended this MLG, like Huk, Idra, Jinro?, KiwiKaki, Sase, Ret and Stephano (still wating to se how far he will go, since he was not in pool play.)

None other than Huk managed to get in winners bracket, the rest got high up in champ bracket.
3vs1 korean/forigners in winners bracket, and 2 vs 2 korean/Forigners on the highest champion bracket level.

Its pretty clear that Koreans are getting pretty high up, and are better.
Only Korean protosses and Boxer and some open brackets Koreans got lower than the highest level in champ bracket.


I guess its better now we have champions like sase though. And at least the foreigners are not getting stomped by Rain and Boxer.
fritos
Profile Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
October 16 2011 03:33 GMT
#9688
These are not variables. It's a simple mathmatical probability.

On October 16 2011 12:30 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 12:29 fritos wrote:
Consider this too: There are far more less Koreans in MLG than foreigners.

So if there were 50% of Koreans and 50% of foreigners participating MLG from the very beginning, the result would be even more one-sided for Koreans


On October 16 2011 12:24 hitpoint wrote:
On October 16 2011 12:20 windsupernova wrote:
lol, BTW for anyone interested in the Koreans vs the World crap.

Here is the recap:

Of the 4 pools:

3 had a Korean at the Top
2 had a foreigner in 2nd place
0 had Koreans at the bottom

And top 8:

5 Koreans
3 Foreigners

Top 16
10 Koreans
6 Foreigners

So... those posts about Korean domination being over seem kinda silly in hindsight.


Foreigners have been doing progressively better every MLG. Look how many took series/games off Koreans compared to the past. I don't think anyone said the Korean domination is over, but it's clearly getting better.



theres to many variables if you start imposing these kinds of conditions. Its still hard to say.

diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
October 16 2011 03:34 GMT
#9689
On October 16 2011 12:30 MajuGarzett wrote:
Does anyone know the game in which Marineking got 31 barracks?


It was against a zerg on I believe Antiga... believe it was before he got placed in the pool.
Spessi
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
304 Posts
October 16 2011 03:34 GMT
#9690
so um.


can anyone tell me if sotg is anywhere tonight?
"Um. Everyone, I love you!" - Boxer, IPL 3, Oct 8, 2011
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
October 16 2011 03:35 GMT
#9691
On October 16 2011 12:34 diophan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 12:30 MajuGarzett wrote:
Does anyone know the game in which Marineking got 31 barracks?


It was against a zerg on I believe Antiga... believe it was before he got placed in the pool.


Ok shouldn't be too hard to figure out then. Thanks.
Leifish
Profile Joined July 2011
851 Posts
October 16 2011 03:35 GMT
#9692
I really hope TheStC gets that Code S spot!
Shaetan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1175 Posts
October 16 2011 03:37 GMT
#9693
On October 16 2011 12:35 MajuGarzett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 12:34 diophan wrote:
On October 16 2011 12:30 MajuGarzett wrote:
Does anyone know the game in which Marineking got 31 barracks?


It was against a zerg on I believe Antiga... believe it was before he got placed in the pool.


Ok shouldn't be too hard to figure out then. Thanks.

vs goswser i think
My Casts: www.youtube.com/Shaetan
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
October 16 2011 03:37 GMT
#9694
On October 16 2011 12:20 windsupernova wrote:
lol, BTW for anyone interested in the Koreans vs the World crap.

Here is the recap:

Of the 4 pools:

3 had a Korean at the Top
2 had a foreigner in 2nd place
0 had Koreans at the bottom

And top 8:

5 Koreans
3 Foreigners

Top 16
10 Koreans
6 Foreigners

So... those posts about Korean domination being over seem kinda silly in hindsight.


Looking at the statistics...It looks decent 10/16 so almost half akorea half foreigners..but lets put it in a new light...

There's a total of 13 koreans playing at this event...
Polt is likely to advance and beat TLO, bearing a huge upset...and up against Sheth where he will still be favourited so you may be looking at 11 koreans of 13 at top 16...

TSLaLive. one of the few koreans eliminated was eliminated by Polt, who just happens to be korean.
Inori has been the only korean successfully eliminated by a foreigner.

so youre looking at basically 11/12 koreans (discounting aLive) still remaining....

Korean domination? Clearly seen.

Just as a fun additional fact..its sort of funny how the #2 and #1 seed foreigners, HuK and IdrA, have been both long-time Code S regulars and just about everyone else has struggled outside of SaSe who played in Code A
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
October 16 2011 03:37 GMT
#9695
On October 16 2011 12:35 MajuGarzett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 12:34 diophan wrote:
On October 16 2011 12:30 MajuGarzett wrote:
Does anyone know the game in which Marineking got 31 barracks?


It was against a zerg on I believe Antiga... believe it was before he got placed in the pool.


Ok shouldn't be too hard to figure out then. Thanks.


game 2 against goswser, I believe it was open bracket finals.
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
October 16 2011 03:37 GMT
#9696
Predictions for tomorrow:

7th/8th -- Hero + MC
5th/6th -- Stephano + HuK
4th -- Polt
3rd -- MKP
2nd -- TheSTC
1st -- Bomber
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Oyman_tr
Profile Joined July 2010
Turkey104 Posts
October 16 2011 03:38 GMT
#9697
are there any more games for today?
Peior est bello timor ipse belli
Surriel
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom198 Posts
October 16 2011 03:38 GMT
#9698
On October 16 2011 12:30 MajuGarzett wrote:
Does anyone know the game in which Marineking got 31 barracks?


It was his 2nd game vs goswser I think, it was quite early in the day in the red stream if you wanna watch it.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 16 2011 03:38 GMT
#9699
On October 16 2011 12:30 MajuGarzett wrote:
Does anyone know the game in which Marineking got 31 barracks?


Game 2 vs Goswser on Antiga Shipyard.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
RoyAlex
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway420 Posts
October 16 2011 03:39 GMT
#9700
On October 16 2011 12:33 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 12:31 RoyAlex wrote:
On October 16 2011 12:20 windsupernova wrote:
lol, BTW for anyone interested in the Koreans vs the World crap.

Here is the recap:

Of the 4 pools:

3 had a Korean at the Top
2 had a foreigner in 2nd place
0 had Koreans at the bottom

And top 8:

5 Koreans
3 Foreigners

Top 16
10 Koreans
6 Foreigners

So... those posts about Korean domination being over seem kinda silly in hindsight.


The korean that attended MLG this time was not the best of the best. I think Bomber and Hero is quite good, infact very good. But MVP is far better than bomber and many many Zergs and Terrans are better than Hero.
But many of the best foreigners attended this MLG, like Huk, Idra, Jinro?, KiwiKaki, Sase, Ret and Stephano (still wating to se how far he will go, since he was not in pool play.)

None other than Huk managed to get in winners bracket, the rest got high up in champ bracket.
3vs1 korean/forigners in winners bracket, and 2 vs 2 korean/Forigners on the highest champion bracket level.

Its pretty clear that Koreans are getting pretty high up, and are better.
Only Korean protosses and Boxer and some open brackets Koreans got lower than the highest level in champ bracket.


I guess its better now we have champions like sase though. And at least the foreigners are not getting stomped by Rain and Boxer.


Yea, they are getting better.... slowly..
But we are no where near to se a possibe GSL foringer winner caliber forigner. And maaaaaybe we can look at Huk like a possible MLG champion winner, still going to be very hard for Huk fighting all those Koreans alone.

Its really nice to see Huk doing well and practicing like a CHAMP in Korea and pwning some koreans faces! ;; Glad, that Idra is going to Korea to practice. Korea seems to have paid of for Sase as well! :D Will be looking for Naniwa's return to MLG at MLG providence!!!!
Prev 1 483 484 485 486 487 494 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 23m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 208
Nathanias 164
ForJumy 38
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 630
ggaemo 279
Aegong 76
NaDa 60
League of Legends
Grubby4482
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K800
taco 613
Foxcn322
Other Games
summit1g12636
shahzam792
Day[9].tv729
monkeys_forever243
ViBE152
Maynarde142
C9.Mang0114
Livibee83
Sick59
Trikslyr40
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1298
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH143
• Hupsaiya 73
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• IndyKCrew
• intothetv
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki14
• FirePhoenix11
• HerbMon 7
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota23207
League of Legends
• Doublelift5444
• TFBlade594
Counter-Strike
• Shiphtur46
Other Games
• imaqtpie1432
• Day9tv729
Upcoming Events
DaveTesta Events
1h 23m
davetesta61
The PondCast
10h 23m
Online Event
16h 23m
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs TBD
Online Event
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
Bonyth vs TBD
OSC
5 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
Yuqilin POB S2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.