EPTEdit: been thinking of at least mentioning this, but the Logitech mini optical is almost exactly the size of the MiCO, only ~2mm shorter iirc.
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Deleted User 135096
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Edit: been thinking of at least mentioning this, but the Logitech mini optical is almost exactly the size of the MiCO, only ~2mm shorter iirc. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On April 01 2012 23:46 wo1fwood wrote: ok, last time. for reals. Someone mentioned the KTEC mice, and I figured I should add one, as well as the Krait, Copperhead, and Diamondback. Done and slightly tweaked again, so that there's less white space. Updated. Also added TT Esports Azurues and Black Element. | ||
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JOJOsc2news
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My perspective on this thread right now: ![[image loading]](http://www.banterous.com/uploads/1/2006-11-28/computers_6831_(www.banterous.com)_funny.jpg) | ||
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Marodox
United States83 Posts
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On April 05 2012 08:44 Marodox wrote: I recently bought the Logitech G1, but it cant keep up with my 1920x1080 resolution. What setting should I change to increase the sensitivity without damaging accuracy? Basically a higher DPI is going to give you faster speeds without sacrificing any precision. DPI corresponds to the amount of pixels the cursor will move when the mouse is moved one inch. When you turn up the sensitivity in Windows or in games, basically this takes the number of pixels the cursor should have moved and multiplies it. This has the effect of making it so there are certain columns of pixels on the screen that the mouse is unable to land on. If you multiply everything by two for example, you'll never get an odd number. Same principle for mouse sensitivity. Now as far as I can tell, the Logitech G1 has a maximum DPI of 1000. That should mean at the maximum setting you should be able to move from one side of your monitor to the other by moving the mouse about 2 inches. I think the G1 has a button on the top that modifies what the DPI is set to, if not you may have to install logitech's drivers. However if 1000 DPI isn't good fast enough, pretty much the only option you have is changing windows sensitivity. | ||
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Mackem
United Kingdom470 Posts
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Zorgon
United States211 Posts
On April 05 2012 09:19 TheToast wrote: + Show Spoiler + Basically a higher DPI is going to give you faster speeds without sacrificing any precision. DPI corresponds to the amount of pixels the cursor will move when the mouse is moved one inch. When you turn up the sensitivity in Windows or in games, basically this takes the number of pixels the cursor should have moved and multiplies it. This has the effect of making it so there are certain columns of pixels on the screen that the mouse is unable to land on. If you multiply everything by two for example, you'll never get an odd number. Same principle for mouse sensitivity. Now as far as I can tell, the Logitech G1 has a maximum DPI of 1000. That should mean at the maximum setting you should be able to move from one side of your monitor to the other by moving the mouse about 2 inches. I think the G1 has a button on the top that modifies what the DPI is set to, if not you may have to install logitech's drivers. However if 1000 DPI isn't good fast enough, pretty much the only option you have is changing windows sensitivity. The button on top of the G1 is just a back button that can be programmed to serve other functions using the SetPoint software available on Logitech's Korean website. | ||
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Deleted User 135096
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On April 05 2012 09:19 TheToast wrote: Now as far as I can tell, the Logitech G1 has a maximum DPI of 1000. Korean G1 is 1000 CPI, the original was 800. Also in-game sensitivities are another option to explore before resorting to changing the Windows pointer speed (assuming they are separate). | ||
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IPS.Blue
Germany309 Posts
On April 05 2012 10:26 wo1fwood wrote: Korean G1 is 1000 CPI, the original was 800. Also in-game sensitivities are another option to explore before resorting to changing the Windows pointer speed (assuming they are separate). I always try to have the same mouse speed in Windows and in SC 2 - less confusion for your brain! But as SC 2 offers more mouse speed steps than Windows, this goal cannot always be achieved without sacrifices. That's why mice which allow a precise hardware configuration of CPI are so comfortable ... | ||
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-Exalt-
United States972 Posts
so i'm looking to get a new mouse (i don't really like the xai's feel anyway.. a bit too big, and the buttons on the right side are annoying). My question is, does the Razer Mamba have built in mouse acceleration as well? What about Roccat mice? What's better in your opinion, a Razer Mamba or Roccat Kone? Whatever it is, i do not want built in mouse acceleration.. | ||
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skunk_works
United States109 Posts
On April 05 2012 09:20 Mackem wrote: Any recommendations on a mousepad for Deathadder Black Edition? Which is better for this mouse, hard or soft? i use steelseries qck and it works great with my deathadder black edition | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On April 05 2012 20:38 AegiS_ wrote: So, i've just read that the Xai has built in Mouse acceleration.. this whole time i thought i was improving my muscle memory but NOPE steelseries just had to sneak in their own acceleration. so i'm looking to get a new mouse (i don't really like the xai's feel anyway.. a bit too big, and the buttons on the right side are annoying). My question is, does the Razer Mamba have built in mouse acceleration as well? What about Roccat mice? What's better in your opinion, a Razer Mamba or Roccat Kone? Whatever it is, i do not want built in mouse acceleration.. Razer mice do not have built in acceleration, though some do have drift control/anglesnapping. I don't believe Roccat mice have built in acceleration either. If the Xai was too big for you, I suspect you won't like the Kone as it's actually wider than the Xai and also has side buttons. If you are interested in Roccat, you should look into the Pyra; wo1fwood wrote and excellent review here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304068 The Zowie AM might fit what you are looking for as well, though it's a bit pricy at $60. | ||
Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
I tried them all, and noticed nothing special really, but when I tried iNcontroL's mouse setup the mouse got really jerky and didn't even respond to my moves. It somehow lagged and teleported several centimeters on the screen. I just thought it was kinda funny ^^ You can manually change just about every possible setting on the mouse, and I guess they somehow screwed up what IncontroL's got :p | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On April 06 2012 05:31 Euronyme wrote: So I just bought a sensei, as my old sensei's software got fried somehow. The store only had the Fnatic special edition senseis, and with it came the mouse setups from progamers. I tried them all, and noticed nothing special really, but when I tried iNcontroL's mouse setup the mouse got really jerky and didn't even respond to my moves. It somehow lagged and teleported several centimeters on the screen. I just thought it was kinda funny ^^ You can manually change just about every possible setting on the mouse, and I guess they somehow screwed up what IncontroL's got :p Nah, your cursor just researched warp gate. Carry on. Just kidding. I'd suggest contacting support, get an RMA. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
Major difference appears to be a updated sensor that has a maximum DPI/CPI of 6400, instead of the 5600 in the regular Mamba. It's also a dual optical and laser, as opposed to just a regular laser sensor in the normal edition. Apparently also has a better LED lighting system. Full specs of the Mamba '2012 edition' •Gaming Grade Wireless Technology •6400dpi 4G Dual Sensor System •Dual mode wired /wireless functionality •1000Hz Ultrapolling /1ms response time •Multi-Color Lighting •Up to 200 inches per second* /50g acceleration •Approximate Size : 115 mm / 4.53” (Length) x 68 mm / 2.68” (Width) x 43 mm / 1.69” (Height) •Approximate Weight: 136 g / 0.30 lbs •Battery Life: Approx 16 hrs (continuous gaming) The only other difference between the two appear to be in battery life, Razer has the 2012 Edition rated at 2 extra hours. Honestly that's probably the only change worth the extra $10.... | ||
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-Exalt-
United States972 Posts
On April 06 2012 01:50 TheToast wrote: Razer mice do not have built in acceleration, though some do have drift control/anglesnapping. I don't believe Roccat mice have built in acceleration either. If the Xai was too big for you, I suspect you won't like the Kone as it's actually wider than the Xai and also has side buttons. If you are interested in Roccat, you should look into the Pyra; wo1fwood wrote and excellent review here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304068 The Zowie AM might fit what you are looking for as well, though it's a bit pricy at $60. Hrm interesting the Kone looked smaller but I guess not  I basically just need a small mouse (I use a claw-ish grip, so big mice like my xai can be can of awkward), with no built in acceleration/ drift control and the ability to get 1800 dpi. I would buy a steelseries Kana or Kinzu but they can only get 1600 dpi which would throw me way off (1 miss click in PvP = gg). I've read that a lot of progamers use the Abyssus, but it looks just as big as my xai in the review i've seen, but i'm not sure. | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On April 06 2012 05:33 JingleHell wrote: Nah, your cursor just researched warp gate. Carry on. Just kidding. I'd suggest contacting support, get an RMA. Nah it's just one of the preset mouse profiles. Nothing to worry about. Still pretty funny though ^^ | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On April 06 2012 06:17 AegiS_ wrote: Hrm interesting the Kone looked smaller but I guess not I basically just need a small mouse (I use a claw-ish grip, so big mice like my xai can be can of awkward), with no built in acceleration/ drift control and the ability to get 1800 dpi. I would buy a steelseries Kana or Kinzu but they can only get 1600 dpi which would throw me way off (1 miss click in PvP = gg). I've read that a lot of progamers use the Abyssus, but it looks just as big as my xai in the review i've seen, but i'm not sure. Check out wo1fwood's guide further up on this page (or under Comparison Guides in the OP); should help you get an idea of the different mouse sizes and styles that are out there. On April 06 2012 06:40 Euronyme wrote: Nah it's just one of the preset mouse profiles. Nothing to worry about. Still pretty funny though ^^ It would be kinda funny if that's how Incontrol actually plays. Maybe he's just so strong he needs his mouse to be nearly unresponsive to avoid constantly moving the cursor completely off the screen....  | ||
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-Exalt-
United States972 Posts
On April 06 2012 06:53 TheToast wrote: Check out wo1fwood's guide further up on this page (or under Comparison Guides in the OP); should help you get an idea of the different mouse sizes and styles that are out there. It would be kinda funny if that's how Incontrol actually plays. Maybe he's just so strong he needs his mouse to be nearly unresponsive to avoid constantly moving the cursor completely off the screen.... yeah the guide was really helpful, thanks. At this point I think my only options are the; (keep in mind I need a small mouse cause I have a claw grip/ smallish hands, and 1800dpi) A) Abyssus. It is small compared to the xai/deathadder, and is good technically. Also used by loads of progamers B) Orochi. Also very small, but i've heard some bad things about it's tracking etc.(someone said it had acceleration, might not be true. C) CM Spawn. Looks like a great for mouse for me.. is small, has anti sweat sides (my hands are always sweaty by the end of a game). Can get 1800 dpi. Zowie mice, Steelseries kana/ kinzu and Roccat are ruled out cause I can't get that perfect 1800 dpi that i've used for the past few years.. thoughts? do any of these mice have acceleration/ path correction/ other stupid stuff like that? edit, about the CM storm spawn: Anti-Drift Control Sensor The Spawn gaming mouse utilizes a high performance optical engine that ensures extreme stability. Built with an anti-drift system, it provides lossless performance during lifts and drops. With a built-in angle snapping option, one can formulate the perfect flick shot to maximize their kill rates with sheer accuracy. this is optional, right? ie there is some way to turn it off? cause I can't stand path correction (the mouse making a curved line straight for you) | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On April 06 2012 09:15 AegiS_ wrote: At this point I think my only options are the; (keep in mind I need a small mouse cause I have a claw grip/ smallish hands, and 1800dpi) A) Abyssus. It is small compared to the xai/deathadder, and is good technically. Also used by loads of progamers B) Orochi. Also very small, but i've heard some bad things about it's tracking etc.(someone said it had acceleration, might not be true. C) CM Spawn. Looks like a great for mouse for me.. is small, has anti sweat sides (my hands are always sweaty by the end of a game). Can get 1800 dpi. Abyssus does not have any acceleration or drift control. It's pretty cheap too, though I've heard a number of complaints about the build quality. Actually I've heard complaints about the build quality for many of Razer's mice. A lot of people have been pretty happy with it though. I don't believe the Orochi has drift control or acceleration either, though I don't know if I've actually heard from anyone whose used it. I do believe the CM Spawn has angle snapping/drift control. Just FYI, I've taken a bunch of the feedback from people in this thread and listed it in the OP for each mouse. Look under the Mice Info, Reviews, Specs, & Feedback section. There's a spoiler with feedback from users for about 50% of the mice listed there (I really need to update that). | ||
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