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Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
May 20 2010 07:38 GMT
#941
On May 20 2010 12:08 gorgoino18 wrote:
http://sports.media.daum.net/general/news/esports/breaking/view.html?cateid=1079&newsid=20100520114804826&p=poctan


Savior Retired;;

The article basically says that he withdraws from pro gaming and sent in his resignation to the E-Sports committee

EDIT: Never mind, after reading the article thoroughly, it says that he has already sent in his resignation form, or is planning to. Either way, he's out of pro gaming forever I guess.


Like Dragon Ball Z, there is always a way to come back fighting, no matter what happens.
CJ Entusman #24
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
May 20 2010 08:21 GMT
#942
On May 20 2010 16:36 Qwertify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 14:52 moopie wrote:
On May 20 2010 14:48 VManOfMana wrote:
What are the chances Luxury was involved in Yarnc defeating FlaSh in Bacchus?

0%?


I think he is talking about whether Luxury did not give his brother any tips, as to what Flash had planned, or whether he had sent the replays to him etc. It was said that in the CJ house, coach Cho had found numerous videos of practice matches between players selected to play in the proleague or who had a spot in the starleague.

Since both were in on this scandal, it is possible that Luxury could have provided his brother with some inside info, especially since Luxury would be practicing with Flash a lot.


I know exactly what he was talking about, and there is absolutely no indication that Luxury gave away team strategies.

And that coach cho story from that screenshot isn't real
On May 19 2010 06:08 Waxangel wrote:
that coach cho pic is total bullshit, it's someone speculating on how it MAY have went down

I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
blue_ling
Profile Joined December 2008
Romania40 Posts
May 20 2010 08:34 GMT
#943
Is this is the saddest thread on TL? I think so...

So many progamers, most of them important figures, people without I can't imagine the pro scene:

Yarnc very powerful and reliable ZvT amongst zergs, OSL finalist
Luxury MSL winner, good in every match-up, OGN and KT ace player(remember when he won against fanta and best, KT vs SKT, WL playoffs 2009)
Hwasin Stx leader, charismatic&influential player, with a hell lot of fans

They are guilty, but I don't want them to be forced to retire. Kespa find a solution to keep them, not to remove them.
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
May 20 2010 10:46 GMT
#944
--- Nuked ---
kawatan
Profile Joined January 2010
288 Posts
May 20 2010 10:51 GMT
#945
On May 20 2010 17:34 blue_ling wrote:
Is this is the saddest thread on TL? I think so...

So many progamers, most of them important figures, people without I can't imagine the pro scene:

Yarnc very powerful and reliable ZvT amongst zergs, OSL finalist
Luxury MSL winner, good in every match-up, OGN and KT ace player(remember when he won against fanta and best, KT vs SKT, WL playoffs 2009)
Hwasin Stx leader, charismatic&influential player, with a hell lot of fans

They are guilty, but I don't want them to be forced to retire. Kespa find a solution to keep them, not to remove them.


then the number of fans will dwindle (if they haven't already) then sponsors start pulling out (if they haven't already). not good for anybody. sentimentality aside, it just doesn't make any sense to keep them.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
May 20 2010 10:58 GMT
#946
lol,the last game (Z)sAviOr won in his progaming career was against (Z)Jaedong

thats what I call ggnore
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34498 Posts
May 20 2010 11:05 GMT
#947
On May 20 2010 19:58 disciple wrote:
lol,the last game (Z)sAviOr won in his progaming career was against (Z)Jaedong

thats what I call ggnore


Rofl.

Can anyone post a link to that game?
Moderator
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 20 2010 11:30 GMT
#948
On May 20 2010 16:19 Amnesia wrote:
So what happens to players that admitted the crime?

Are they no longer allowed to play?

go.go


Savior and Luxury have been forced into retirement (I think Justin will be retiring too, IMO). type-b is going into the military (not ACE). The rest we shall just have to wait and see.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
mint_julep
Profile Joined October 2009
United States254 Posts
May 20 2010 14:42 GMT
#949
On May 20 2010 20:05 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 19:58 disciple wrote:
lol,the last game (Z)sAviOr won in his progaming career was against (Z)Jaedong

thats what I call ggnore


Rofl.

Can anyone post a link to that game?


... lololol

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/34639_Jaedong_vs_sAviOr

no battle report =(
I hope Plexa's sig is right.
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
May 20 2010 16:18 GMT
#950
One of the saddest day EVER in eSports

He´s 100% guilty, but.. still generates me wishes to cry

How could you possible have done this shit, maestro!!??
StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
Pai[N]
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3 Posts
May 20 2010 16:52 GMT
#951
On May 20 2010 20:05 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 19:58 disciple wrote:
lol,the last game (Z)sAviOr won in his progaming career was against (Z)Jaedong

thats what I call ggnore


Rofl.

Can anyone post a link to that game?


Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
May 20 2010 17:03 GMT
#952
If sAviOr did do it, which is what it looks like right now, I hope that he is at least man enough to admit it rather than just retire and hide from everything.
CJ Entusman #24
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
May 20 2010 17:18 GMT
#953
On May 20 2010 17:34 blue_ling wrote:
Is this is the saddest thread on TL? I think so...

So many progamers, most of them important figures, people without I can't imagine the pro scene:

Yarnc very powerful and reliable ZvT amongst zergs, OSL finalist
Luxury MSL winner, good in every match-up, OGN and KT ace player(remember when he won against fanta and best, KT vs SKT, WL playoffs 2009)
Hwasin Stx leader, charismatic&influential player, with a hell lot of fans

They are guilty, but I don't want them to be forced to retire. Kespa find a solution to keep them, not to remove them.

I don't think it's been confirmed Hwasin is involved yet. He is suspected, but his fans still have a chance he is not involved.
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
May 20 2010 18:02 GMT
#954
On May 21 2010 02:18 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 17:34 blue_ling wrote:
Is this is the saddest thread on TL? I think so...

So many progamers, most of them important figures, people without I can't imagine the pro scene:

Yarnc very powerful and reliable ZvT amongst zergs, OSL finalist
Luxury MSL winner, good in every match-up, OGN and KT ace player(remember when he won against fanta and best, KT vs SKT, WL playoffs 2009)
Hwasin Stx leader, charismatic&influential player, with a hell lot of fans

They are guilty, but I don't want them to be forced to retire. Kespa find a solution to keep them, not to remove them.

I don't think it's been confirmed Hwasin is involved yet. He is suspected, but his fans still have a chance he is not involved.


If he is indeed guilty, it's gonna kill me.
jungsu
Profile Joined February 2010
United States279 Posts
May 20 2010 18:06 GMT
#955
I just hope Savior didn't give up a great comeback for this. Hopefully he couldn't do it and realized he may as well make some dough.

But IF he could've come back, what a shame.
go nony
dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
May 20 2010 18:48 GMT
#956
That it, this is how ma jae yoon goes out? NO destruction? No come back? no starleague appearance? no possible midas like rejuvination?

L o fucken L. What a career.

He will no longer be remember as savior the bonjwa, savior the maestro of zerg, the guy that filled the map with swarms and zerged you down.

He will be remember as "Savior the Cheater"

just like Barry Bonds or Pete Rose
i type teamliquid into the url subconsciously... all...the...time...
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 19:20:04
May 20 2010 19:18 GMT
#957
Double apology from "both Mr.Park's" aka Luxury and Yarnc.

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=106918&db=issue&cate=001&page=2&field=&kwrd=

And according to Waxangel's article CJ had lost contact with Savior for quite some time during the investigation.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
May 20 2010 19:50 GMT
#958
Holy fuck Savior, I thought you had hit the bottom of the barrel, but you just smashed through it to fall ever lower.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 20:24:51
May 20 2010 20:05 GMT
#959
Hwasin has apologised:

2010.05.21 금 03:13

죄 송합니다

죄송합니다.

정말 죄송합니다. e스포츠 관계자분들과 구단분들, 그리고 무엇보다 우리 팀 동료들과 저를 지켜봐주시고 믿어주신 팬 여러분께 진심으로 머리숙여 죄송합니다.

감히 죄송하다는 말씀 드릴 자격도 없지만.. 가만히 있는 것은 더욱 도리가 아닌 것 같아, 이렇게 부끄러운 사죄의 글을 올립니다.

어린 나이도 아니고, 한 순간의 실수였다고 용서를 빌 수 있는 일이 아니라는 거.. 알고 있습니다. 모두 한 순간의 유혹을 뿌리치지 못한 저의 잘못입니다. 정말 진심으로 후회하고 있습니다.

지난 7년간 수많은 분들이 저를 응원하고 아껴주신 것 알고 있는데.. 덕분에 겨우 지금까지 올 수 있었는데… 정말 제가 왜 그랬는지.. 제가 정말 어리석었습니다.

제 자신이 용서가 안 되는데, 이런 글 몇자로 여러분의 용서를 바랄 수도 없고, 제 죄를 덜 수도 없다는 걸 알지만… 그래도 진심으로 죄송하단 말씀 드립니다.

그 어떤 말로도.. 그간 저를 응원하고 아껴주신 분들께 충분히 사죄할 수 없겠지만…

정말. 정말.. 죄송합니다.

http://www.cyworld.com/hwasin0405

-------

My Korean is not fantastic so I'm not translating this in case I get anything wrong. Someone fluent in Korean, pls translate, thanks.

Edit:
He posted this in his diary, not his sidebar, so he opened it to replies from Korean fans. Several very strong mixed reactions.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 20:43:06
May 20 2010 20:38 GMT
#960
So I guess that just leaves (T)Justin and (T)DarkElf not yet confirmed on the "Essentially confirmed list." I think there were strong statements of Justin's guilt in this thread but it doesn't seem to be absolute yet. Not that I think anyone is expecting him not to be guilty based on how many other members of Sparkyz are guilty.

Still waiting on the verdict for Darkelf though.

Also looks like a bunch of fan girls are going to jump off a cliff due to Hwasin's fall from grace. Online translator's work of Hwasin's statement says (good luck understanding it):
+ Show Spoiler +
Crime [song] it is
sorry it does.
Truth it is sorry. e sports relationship flows and ball club minutes, and what step with our team colleagues it defends me all and it sees and staring, to pan everybody to believe the head to hang it is sorry with sincerity.
Daringly only there is neither a sorry is speech drill qualification. It is black and to be, it appears not to be being the reason, it raises the writing of the pardon which is shy like this.
Also the young age knows, real income of about moment was, forgiveness is not the day when there is a Bill possibility, well!. It is knowing. It cannot shake off the temptation of all about moment it is a secret intention mistake. It is regretting with true sincerity.
Last 7 year for numerous minutes me [ung] to want sparing the place where it is knowing. The possibility of coming barely until now to indebtedness it was but… True I probably am like that why. I truth was foolish.
My oneself the place where the forgiveness does not become, there is not a water service which will wish everybody's forgiveness with like this writing some person, a water service which will take my crime and there is not it will hang it knows but… It is like that but sorry lower part speech it gives with sincerity.
Even at the what kind of end. The while me [ung] to want to the minutes to spare it will be able to pardon enough but…
Truth. Truth. It is sorry.
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