On October 16 2011 11:16 Turbogangsta wrote: WHY IDRA WHY WHYYYYY QQQQQQQQQQQQQQ /WRISTS PLEASE IDRA POELASE YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE EVIL TERRANS WWWWWWAAAAHHHH IDRA COMON SON
At first I laughed at the sarcastic post, but now I am unsure if this is actually sarcasm since so many IdrA fanboys actually act like this...
it was a srs post it breaks my heart when idra loses but im not blind MKP is one of my favorite terrans and i can see why he won that game. (and i can see why it seems like bullshit too even tho its not it was great play by MKP)
i actually ran and locked myself in the bathroom and cried when my favorite football team lost! i feel ya! (yeah that was...some years ago)
was it the champions league finals in 1999?
haha, the thing is of course it wasn't any important game at all i think
(was dortmund at the time, some Bundesliga game i'd guess and nothing important at all...children will cra at the silliest things, example miniwheat earlier hehe. mymy there brackets are still open aren't they)
HOW DO I ALWAYS GET THE FIRST POST ON A PAGE >_>
Damn saw Germany as the country and as a United fan really wanted it to be the 99 finals
Why does it matter where they come from? Was that game not intense and exciting? If a player's nationality is what prevents you from watching esports why even bother?
Some people doesn't enjoy seeing a tourney roster and knowing which players will finish top 6. It's his opinion, are you that intolerant?
There are more than 6 Koreans, and if pool play shows us anything it's that foreigners are more than capable of making it top 6 anyway. SC is about the games, not about where people are from.
You want SC2 to be an e-sport, right? Soccer is all about the games too, yet I don't cheer for barcelona because they are the best team in the world, I cheer for flamengo because they are the team from my country.
Soccer is a team sport, SC2 is more comparable to tennis or golf, Do you perhaps not root for Federer or Tiger Woods?
There's not much point in complaining about people cheering for their own country. The Koreans do the same and no one ever blames them. Like Tasteless was saying, Koreans won't even watch a sport unless Koreans are winning it.
This is simply not true. My father was a Yankees fan ever since he was a teenager in South Korea. He didn't even own a television set. He'd watch the games on horrible reception whenever he had a chance to go to a major city. In an Olympic setting, would South Koreans root for their national team? Of course they would, but the important thing is that they ultimately respect the game.
Whoever you root for is who you choose to root for. What's ridiculous is to say that you're a StarCraft fan and then in the next breath say you blatantly refuse to watch any games with Koreans in it. So basically you are...
1. Being prejudice. Not racist, but prejudice. The best players in the world are Korean. You are refusing to watch the best players simply because they are Korean.
2. Not respecting the game. Refusing to watch games based on reason #1 means you don't care about seeing good games. All you care about is seeing foreigners play.
3. Ignorant. You are denying yourself the opportunity to watch the best StarCraft 2 players in the world.
I'm a soccer fan. When the United States or South Korean national teams are playing, of course I'll cheer in their favor, but when they inevitably get knocked out I don't stop watching the game. I watch it all the way to the finals. Why? Because I respect the game and those who play it on the highest level. The sport takes precedent over the nationalism.
The last thing StarCraft should become is a xenophobic mouthpiece for nationalistic circlejerks. Respect the players. Respect the game. There are good foreigners and there are good Koreans, but if foreign scene can't respect the game, then it will always be subpar to the Korean scene.
Also, the basketball scene in China is getting much better too. Guess what the best selling NBA jersey in China is? If you guessed Yao Ming you are dead wrong.
The best selling NBA jersey in China is Kobe Bryant. Then it's Kevin Garnett, Tracy McGrady, Paul Pierce, Allen Iverson.... Yao Ming is actually #10.
Why the fuck was he a Yankees fan of all teams... in South Korea?
the same reason a Pakistani kid in 1999 can be a Barcelona fan with nothing but 1 la liga game (on a crappy satellite dish) to watch a week at 1 am . Love for the game.
i like you
it's you isn't it
if it's not you i'm sad
(Barca&St Pauli fan now! still a bit dortmund though with klopp and kagawa and stuff)
On October 16 2011 10:41 MrSexington wrote: Top 6 Korean again?
4 of 6 already Korean? Will anyone not sneak in the remaining two spots?
*sheds zerg tears*
Huk is not Korean.
Although that point has been debated for countless ages around these parts, and no real conclusion has been made so far.
To me, he is European because he is of Caucasian descent, though you could argue that he is actually African due to ancestral migrations.
When people say Korean they usually mean Korean in terms of actually spending time in Korea. That's why we call Select a foreigner and not a Korean.
Yep. Obviously HuK is a white dude and American-Canadian. What matters for SC though is his training, which is obviously Korean.
That would be like saying that French player practicing chess in Russia is Russian. That terminology makes absolutely no sense to anyone but few people who decided to use it (few sc2 fans who just need to be able to say that non-Koreans never win anything). You are redefining words needlessly, just say training in Korea, which is correct English, not Korean as he is not, he is a Canadian/American. Using few more words won't kill you and you will avoid butchering English language and creating misunderstandings.
Firstly, the korean/foreigner terminology was invented before SC2 existed. Secondly, I was simply clarifying what every sane person means by the terms. When someone says HuK is Korean, it is shorthand for saying he's a white dude who has trained in Korea for long enough to be considered one of them, in SC terms.
so by that logic rain is now a foreigner? Since he now lives and trains in the US? Do dirk nowitski, tony parker, pau gasol, etc. become american when they go to the NBA?
On October 16 2011 10:34 Icky wrote: Not over yet, and all.. But I have to say, as a casual Starcraft 2 watcher, if Koreans keep winning MLGs I'm just going to stop bothering entirely.
Why, were you not entertained by that game?
Why does it matter where they come from? Was that game not intense and exciting? If a player's nationality is what prevents you from watching esports why even bother?
Some people doesn't enjoy seeing a tourney roster and knowing which players will finish top 6. It's his opinion, are you that intolerant?
There are more than 6 Koreans, and if pool play shows us anything it's that foreigners are more than capable of making it top 6 anyway. SC is about the games, not about where people are from.
You want SC2 to be an e-sport, right? Soccer is all about the games too, yet I don't cheer for barcelona because they are the best team in the world, I cheer for flamengo because they are the team from my country.
Soccer is a team sport, SC2 is more comparable to tennis or golf, Do you perhaps not root for Federer or Tiger Woods?
There's not much point in complaining about people cheering for their own country. The Koreans do the same and no one ever blames them. Like Tasteless was saying, Koreans won't even watch a sport unless Koreans are winning it.
This is simply not true. My father was a Yankees fan ever since he was a teenager in South Korea. He didn't even own a television set. He'd watch the games on horrible reception whenever he had a chance to go to a major city. In an Olympic setting, would South Koreans root for their national team? Of course they would, but the important thing is that they ultimately respect the game.
Whoever you root for is who you choose to root for. What's ridiculous is to say that you're a StarCraft fan and then in the next breath say you blatantly refuse to watch any games with Koreans in it. So basically you are...
1. Being prejudice. Not racist, but prejudice. The best players in the world are Korean. You are refusing to watch the best players simply because they are Korean.
2. Not respecting the game. Refusing to watch games based on reason #1 means you don't care about seeing good games. All you care about is seeing foreigners play.
3. Ignorant. You are denying yourself the opportunity to watch the best StarCraft 2 players in the world.
I'm a soccer fan. When the United States or South Korean national teams are playing, of course I'll cheer in their favor, but when they inevitably get knocked out I don't stop watching the game. I watch it all the way to the finals. Why? Because I respect the game and those who play it on the highest level. The sport takes precedent over the nationalism.
The last thing StarCraft should become is a xenophobic mouthpiece for nationalistic circlejerks. Respect the players. Respect the game. There are good foreigners and there are good Koreans, but if foreign scene can't respect the game, then it will always be subpar to the Korean scene.
Also, the basketball scene in China is getting much better too. Guess what the best selling NBA jersey in China is? If you guessed Yao Ming you are dead wrong.
The best selling NBA jersey in China is Kobe Bryant. Then it's Kevin Garnett, Tracy McGrady, Paul Pierce, Allen Iverson.... Yao Ming is actually #10.
Why the fuck was he a Yankees fan of all teams... in South Korea?
He had his own Korean favorites, but the Yankees nation is worldwide, like Manchester United for soccer. You can find Manchester United and Yankees fans all over the world.
But he was specifically a Yankees fan because he loved the legacy and Joe Torre.
OrangeMilkis Wooju Lee Every time I see @WhiteRaSC I'm in awe. Inori was late so he lost his first match, WhiteRa wanted the match to start 0-0.
Wow so manner. Please get whitera in for Providence, he can fare much better than Tyler and Incontrol, Tlo, Drewbie, He has been consistently making out of the open bracket, but still not getting enough point.
Damn! Really wish Geoff would have a good showing this tournament. Oh well hopefully he can recover and find his way out of this slump soon. Really love you brother, keep up the hard work it will pay off.
On October 16 2011 11:19 NuclearJudas wrote: [quote] Tyler getting one SCV with somePhoenix harass.
Seige mode coming for KR and a Forge for Tyler.
Tyler getting +1 Armor and KR getting Stim.
Tyler getting a Robo and another gate. KR getting an Armory.
Tyler getting a Robo Bay and an Observer. KR going for Thors and +1 attack.
Tyler getting Colossus and +1 Attack. KR getting Strike Cannon for Thors.
Tyler also getting Extended Thermal Lance and a Twilight Council. KR getting combat shields, moving out.
Engagement is on. Tyler getting some tanks, but Kawaii seems to take the battle. Tyler getting Zealot Charge and +2 Armor and one more gate. Looking bad for Tyler though as Kawaii presses forward. TARSON Tyler holds. Huge worker lead for KR.
Tyler owning KR's next attack until Kawaii's units find their way into two bunkers. KR getting a third up. Small bunker wall is up- but gets salvaged.
Tyler getting +2 Attack and some Archons. Kawaii getting +1 Vehicle Weps, and +2/+2 bio and Blue Flame. Tyler attacks Kawaii's third and take it down! Kawaii up by 10 supply.
+3 Attack coming for Tyler and for KR's bio as well. Tyler trying to expand to the gold (lol, missed him getting a third in all the action).
Tyler charges ahead! Even engagement, but Tyler wins it and goes up in supply!
Tyler is back in the game! 2 workers down, but he has the gold. Kawii moving out to get the gold. Tyler getting +3 Armor, I think. KAwaiiRICE LOSES HIS THIRD AND TYLER BARELLS AHEAD. TYLER WINS THE FIRST GAME ON XEL'NAGA CAVERNS! TL FIGHTING ESPORTS! :D
On October 16 2011 11:31 minhbq299 wrote: OrangeMilkis Wooju Lee Every time I see @WhiteRaSC I'm in awe. Inori was late so he lost his first match, WhiteRa wanted the match to start 0-0.
Wow so manner. Please get whitera in for Providence, he can fare much better than Tyler and Incontrol, Tlo, Drewbie, He has been consistently making out of the open bracket, but still not getting enough point.
More special tactik pleasssssssssse.
Pretty much what this guy said, he is so deserving of a spot.
EPT
