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hapa (or anyone else that thinks both of the leading candidates are scum) do you see any reasons to lynch OO or TLCG over the other? I get the sense that a lot of people have equal or near equal scumreads on both hyrdas, but they are just voting for the one that they're most interested in lynching... interested in some kind of "i've spent more time pushing player X so we're lynching him for the sake of my ego" type of way. so let's not do that lol. I know I joked around earlier about lynching TLCG first becuase it'd be trollish to make VE continue playing, but now I'm of the opinion that TLCG just has a better chance of flipping scum. better, by something like .01%. that's not much, but I can't ignore it.
It looks like this OO lynch is what's going down no matter what, considering how both the people voting for the golems ALSO want OO to die. Is there anyone on the OO wagon that would be opposed to a golem lynch? I still feel like that hasn't been enough conversation about OO and people like Moology are voting OO without putting enough of an effort in to make their own reads.
I'm not concerned in the slightest about hapa being scum. The way he has played D2 perfectly matches his town play. Marv/keri I have NO doubts about either, which is mostly due to keir's D2 posting. Both of these hydras (newbie/FT) have shown an interest in pursing reads on BOTH of the lynch candidates, without anyone prodding them to do so. The only way I can possibly see myself being suspicious of either of them is if we lynch a townie today.
So, two scum left, between OO, TLCG, Moology, and Promato. You all should know that I think both OO and TLCG will flip red. The only other player I can possibly see being red is Moology, because I haven't liked some of their posts today. They've had to be pushed into participating and even after that I still don't feel like they're giving the game the attention it deserves.
yeah... i dunno what I'm trying to say... I guess what I'm asking is if everyone is committed to their vote or not. (specifically marv... are you sure you want an OO lynch over a golem lynch?)
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Kill OE first because I have my doubts about TLCG.
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On March 17 2013 10:09 yamato77 wrote:
Kill OE first because I have my doubts about TLCG.
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I haven't talked to marv since he hasn't been around today, but I think it would be dumb to lynch Golems first. I would rather not lynch a claimed jailkeeper over a VE that I'm pretty sure is scum.
Who knows what will happen with night actions.
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eh, sucks for me i guess. i don't really have doubts about either of them, so i guess I don't really care either way
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I'm pretty confident that both will flip scum. While I hate to lynch based on information, in this situation it seems alright. Flipping ObviousEyes first is going to tell us a ton about Promato's alignment, which is good enough for me.
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On March 17 2013 10:21 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm pretty confident that both will flip scum. While I hate to lynch based on information, in this situation it seems alright. Flipping ObviousEyes first is going to tell us a ton about Promato's alignment, which is good enough for me.
Whoops.
Also, I'm keeping my vote on Caster for now because I want to be a rebel.
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On March 17 2013 10:10 FiveTouch wrote:
I haven't talked to marv since he hasn't been around today, but I think it would be dumb to lynch Golems first. I would rather not lynch a claimed jailkeeper over a VE that I'm pretty sure is scum.
Who knows what will happen with night actions.
see the thing about that... hmmm..... lets just say I have my doubts about their claim lol. more on that later.
+ Show Spoiler +not really, that was a 'joke' blue slip. but imo what I just did (no matter how shitty a claim it'd be if it were real) is 10x more convincing than how they claimed, even if you discount your town read on me.
imo their claim actually is part of the case against them. they said it was a blue slip, yeah sure.... I don't buy that at all. the post where he "slipped" seems like bullying, or threatening us. When townies talk about themselves being mislynch, it's always in a "well once you see that i'm town you'll know who the scum are." Like, they are in martyr mode. But TLCG's post came across as "oh yeah? well you better not lynch me, cuz i'll flip blue and you'll be sorry."
On March 17 2013 00:52 TLCastingGolems wrote:Dropping in quickly, will be reading and catching up in the near future. Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 00:44 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:i will open it to everyone i guess Casters totes scum? yay or nay + Show Spoiler +the answer is yay by the way i just want some stuff to read though. You're gonna need to have a contingency plan. If you kill us, what's your plan of action when we flip blue? -S4
That post come across as INTIMIDATION. He was trying to claim blue to scare us. It was not a 'blue slip'
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EBWOP
The claim would be more convincing if they had not said it was an accidental slip. The tone of the claim post is clearly something like "DON'T LYNCH ME I'M A POWER ROLE YOU ASSHOLE." Which means the blue claim was intentional, and not a slip. Which means that they're lying about how the claim occurred, which imo was caused by them seeing iamp's negative reaction to the claim.
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On March 17 2013 10:42 DrParnassus wrote:
EBWOP
The claim would be more convincing if they had not said it was an accidental slip. The tone of the claim post is clearly something like "DON'T LYNCH ME I'M A POWER ROLE YOU ASSHOLE." Which means the blue claim was intentional, and not a slip. Which means that they're lying about how the claim occurred, which imo was caused by them seeing iamp's negative reaction to the claim.
Idunno. I mean he's scum for a lot of other reasons, but I can totally see a blue-role doing that.
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On March 17 2013 10:43 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 10:42 DrParnassus wrote:
EBWOP
The claim would be more convincing if they had not said it was an accidental slip. The tone of the claim post is clearly something like "DON'T LYNCH ME I'M A POWER ROLE YOU ASSHOLE." Which means the blue claim was intentional, and not a slip. Which means that they're lying about how the claim occurred, which imo was caused by them seeing iamp's negative reaction to the claim. Idunno. I mean he's scum for a lot of other reasons, but I can totally see a blue-role doing that.
On March 17 2013 01:08 TLCastingGolems wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 01:02 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:On March 17 2013 01:00 Hapahauli wrote:On March 17 2013 00:52 TLCastingGolems wrote:Dropping in quickly, will be reading and catching up in the near future. On March 17 2013 00:44 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:i will open it to everyone i guess Casters totes scum? yay or nay + Show Spoiler +the answer is yay by the way i just want some stuff to read though. You're gonna need to have a contingency plan. If you kill us, what's your plan of action when we flip blue? -S4 Is this a claim? I think he might be claiming just blue because he hasn't thought of the whole claim yet Well, I had thought I wrote "town" instead of "blue", as I wasn't planning on claiming blue yet. Half asleep brains seems to have had different plans. You could lynch us and find out for sure, as it's only on my word right now, but that wouldn't be very useful for you, now would it?
do you think this looks like a follow up post for somebody who accidentally blue-slipped? where is the emotion, the "oh shit i dun goofed" ?
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Hapa... can you start at the blue claim and read the next several posts? Tell me if you think it was an innocent blue-slip or a malicious fake claim.... because I think it's a distinction we're eventually going to have to make if we ever want the thread to agree to flip TLGC. After all, there haven't been any counterclaims.... so..... yeah........ you see where I'm going with this
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On March 17 2013 10:45 DrParnassus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 10:43 Hapahauli wrote:On March 17 2013 10:42 DrParnassus wrote:
EBWOP
The claim would be more convincing if they had not said it was an accidental slip. The tone of the claim post is clearly something like "DON'T LYNCH ME I'M A POWER ROLE YOU ASSHOLE." Which means the blue claim was intentional, and not a slip. Which means that they're lying about how the claim occurred, which imo was caused by them seeing iamp's negative reaction to the claim. Idunno. I mean he's scum for a lot of other reasons, but I can totally see a blue-role doing that. Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 01:08 TLCastingGolems wrote:On March 17 2013 01:02 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:On March 17 2013 01:00 Hapahauli wrote:On March 17 2013 00:52 TLCastingGolems wrote:Dropping in quickly, will be reading and catching up in the near future. On March 17 2013 00:44 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:i will open it to everyone i guess Casters totes scum? yay or nay + Show Spoiler +the answer is yay by the way i just want some stuff to read though. You're gonna need to have a contingency plan. If you kill us, what's your plan of action when we flip blue? -S4 Is this a claim? I think he might be claiming just blue because he hasn't thought of the whole claim yet Well, I had thought I wrote "town" instead of "blue", as I wasn't planning on claiming blue yet. Half asleep brains seems to have had different plans. You could lynch us and find out for sure, as it's only on my word right now, but that wouldn't be very useful for you, now would it? do you think this looks like a follow up post for somebody who accidentally blue-slipped? where is the emotion, the "oh shit i dun goofed" ?
Is this Oats or thrawn?
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On March 17 2013 10:45 DrParnassus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 10:43 Hapahauli wrote:On March 17 2013 10:42 DrParnassus wrote:
EBWOP
The claim would be more convincing if they had not said it was an accidental slip. The tone of the claim post is clearly something like "DON'T LYNCH ME I'M A POWER ROLE YOU ASSHOLE." Which means the blue claim was intentional, and not a slip. Which means that they're lying about how the claim occurred, which imo was caused by them seeing iamp's negative reaction to the claim. Idunno. I mean he's scum for a lot of other reasons, but I can totally see a blue-role doing that. Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 01:08 TLCastingGolems wrote:On March 17 2013 01:02 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:On March 17 2013 01:00 Hapahauli wrote:On March 17 2013 00:52 TLCastingGolems wrote:Dropping in quickly, will be reading and catching up in the near future. On March 17 2013 00:44 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:i will open it to everyone i guess Casters totes scum? yay or nay + Show Spoiler +the answer is yay by the way i just want some stuff to read though. You're gonna need to have a contingency plan. If you kill us, what's your plan of action when we flip blue? -S4 Is this a claim? I think he might be claiming just blue because he hasn't thought of the whole claim yet Well, I had thought I wrote "town" instead of "blue", as I wasn't planning on claiming blue yet. Half asleep brains seems to have had different plans. You could lynch us and find out for sure, as it's only on my word right now, but that wouldn't be very useful for you, now would it? do you think this looks like a follow up post for somebody who accidentally blue-slipped? where is the emotion, the "oh shit i dun goofed" ?
Eh mabye.
This is the most pointless argument ever you know.
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yeah, but boring thread is boring.
/sigh
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On March 17 2013 10:52 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 10:45 DrParnassus wrote:On March 17 2013 10:43 Hapahauli wrote:On March 17 2013 10:42 DrParnassus wrote:
EBWOP
The claim would be more convincing if they had not said it was an accidental slip. The tone of the claim post is clearly something like "DON'T LYNCH ME I'M A POWER ROLE YOU ASSHOLE." Which means the blue claim was intentional, and not a slip. Which means that they're lying about how the claim occurred, which imo was caused by them seeing iamp's negative reaction to the claim. Idunno. I mean he's scum for a lot of other reasons, but I can totally see a blue-role doing that. On March 17 2013 01:08 TLCastingGolems wrote:On March 17 2013 01:02 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:On March 17 2013 01:00 Hapahauli wrote:On March 17 2013 00:52 TLCastingGolems wrote:Dropping in quickly, will be reading and catching up in the near future. On March 17 2013 00:44 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:i will open it to everyone i guess Casters totes scum? yay or nay + Show Spoiler +the answer is yay by the way i just want some stuff to read though. You're gonna need to have a contingency plan. If you kill us, what's your plan of action when we flip blue? -S4 Is this a claim? I think he might be claiming just blue because he hasn't thought of the whole claim yet Well, I had thought I wrote "town" instead of "blue", as I wasn't planning on claiming blue yet. Half asleep brains seems to have had different plans. You could lynch us and find out for sure, as it's only on my word right now, but that wouldn't be very useful for you, now would it? do you think this looks like a follow up post for somebody who accidentally blue-slipped? where is the emotion, the "oh shit i dun goofed" ? Is this Oats or thrawn?
thrawn
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On March 17 2013 10:54 DrParnassus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 10:52 FiveTouch wrote:On March 17 2013 10:45 DrParnassus wrote:On March 17 2013 10:43 Hapahauli wrote:On March 17 2013 10:42 DrParnassus wrote:
EBWOP
The claim would be more convincing if they had not said it was an accidental slip. The tone of the claim post is clearly something like "DON'T LYNCH ME I'M A POWER ROLE YOU ASSHOLE." Which means the blue claim was intentional, and not a slip. Which means that they're lying about how the claim occurred, which imo was caused by them seeing iamp's negative reaction to the claim. Idunno. I mean he's scum for a lot of other reasons, but I can totally see a blue-role doing that. On March 17 2013 01:08 TLCastingGolems wrote:On March 17 2013 01:02 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:On March 17 2013 01:00 Hapahauli wrote:On March 17 2013 00:52 TLCastingGolems wrote:Dropping in quickly, will be reading and catching up in the near future. On March 17 2013 00:44 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:i will open it to everyone i guess Casters totes scum? yay or nay + Show Spoiler +the answer is yay by the way i just want some stuff to read though. You're gonna need to have a contingency plan. If you kill us, what's your plan of action when we flip blue? -S4 Is this a claim? I think he might be claiming just blue because he hasn't thought of the whole claim yet Well, I had thought I wrote "town" instead of "blue", as I wasn't planning on claiming blue yet. Half asleep brains seems to have had different plans. You could lynch us and find out for sure, as it's only on my word right now, but that wouldn't be very useful for you, now would it? do you think this looks like a follow up post for somebody who accidentally blue-slipped? where is the emotion, the "oh shit i dun goofed" ? Is this Oats or thrawn? thrawn
Oh. Blah.
Anyways, I was going to relate a story that Oats experienced if it was him.
In Chrono, on day 1, I let slip something about my role that was extra information that by all rights I shouldn't have known. Not exactly a "blue slip", but I didn't go bitching and moaning about "aw I dun goofed" in the thread or anything. I explained what I meant, and moved on. I don't think their lack of...whatever you want to call it makes them scum, because i know I reacted in a similar way as town.
I'm not saying I believe the claim (I don't, right now), but at this point it isn't completely outside the realm of possibility. A town ObliviousEyes is.
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Ok, first thing's first. While I was gone, one thing became apparent. I hadn't realized my vote wasn't on OE. This explains a lot of the reason you guys think I don't want him dead.
##vote ObliviousEyes
When Wave was posting earlier, you guys afterwards attacked him for developing a read on Promato after I had originally placed Prom on a list saying he's completely null to me. It was ALSO after FiveTouch asked him to give an opinion on Promato.
I don't understand how this development is scummy. You guys ask him to develop a read and then attack him for making a read. No, that's not how it works.
The stance he developed is not one that I disagree with.
To the people saying that you don't think I should be flipped before OE - you are the ones using your brains. If you kill me, you'll find yourselves in a really shitty position.
@FiveTouch
What is your opinion of Moology?
@DrParn
You can go look at any of the games I've played - when people want to mislynch me, I always say something like that. It was not an intimidation post. It was a fact-of-the-matter "i'm not scum" post.
And my blue claim isn't real because I didn't use an emoticon or anything? Lol fuck you, you're not that stupid. I was not intending to claim blue as early as I did. You clearly don't believe that, but you're gonna have to get the fuck over it.
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GOLEMS, how in the fuck are you going to spend all day yelling 'PROM SCUM" and then vote for OO? after giving wishy washy null read on VE? FFS MAN!
@everyone else:
this is not an "association with unflipped VE" case. this is a "golems is faking his scumreads and his vote" case
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