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like, fuck.
once again, I am not advocating an association lynch. ve could be green as hell and tlgolem would still be scum
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Same reason there are a few people without votes on me.
I'm more confident in finding scum in OE.
The post with the case on Prom was Wave's. I don't necessarily disagree with his read, but it's not 100%. OE is most likely scum, Promato could very well be scum.
@DrParn
You're wrong, get over it.
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I find it difficult to believe that "it reminds you" of a game you were no part of.
Congrats, you found one of my 2 or 3 scum games ever. Moreover, that was about a year and a half ago. There is no meta there because I have no scum meta. Over the span of 3 years of playing with long breaks sporadically placed, I have played something other than VT so few times.
That game was interesting because Palmar rolled over D1 screwing us over. I also didn't have a second head to deal with (haven't ever hydrad before).
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You found 0 town motivation in Promato's posting. How on earth would you be more confident in finding scum in OE?
Like seriously, this is all the analysis you've posted on OE: 1) A null read.
VE's screamfest reminds me of his play in LX (since that's the only game in which I've played with him), but I've also heard that him getting all emotional is typical of his play no matter what alignment? Probably null but I'm still definitely going to comb through before coming to any decisions.
2) "He's avoided making recent reads on us"
I've noticed that OE has actively avoided making recent reads on us. He always disappears when the focus turns to us. I really want to know what he thinks of us, etc.
3) Soft-Defending VE...
On March 17 2013 05:15 TLCastingGolems wrote: I don't know why scum VE would avoid talking about us, the same as we have no idea why they shot Dirk last night. Scummy motivations bring about a lot of WIFOM. VE has a lot to answer to/for anyway right now, best he answers himself.
And then you vote him without any analysis whatsoever: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=402039¤tpage=42#838
So I have no clue where your read on OE is coming from. You have never attempted to analyze his filter, and your only suspicion on him seems to be that he's not giving reads on you. That's incredibly weak.
Compare this to your case on Yamato, where you rail on him and accuse him of having 0 townie motivation. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=402039¤tpage=39#767
So....WIFOM? Newbie rips into us like crazy and justly tears me apart for my shit, and that's the best you can do? Come on. Town motivation seen here from Prom: 0.
Big, big difference there. And the only explanation I can think of is that you're scum.
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@hapa the explanation could be that it was wave who made those posts about promato... but this is the hyrda who claimed that they work closely together, so whatever
i really wanna hear what marv thinks about the golems
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Correction - WAVE FOUND 0 TOWN MOTIVATION FROM PROM
The null read and "soft-defense", as you say, that Wave gave on OE was the post that put us in this mess. He was apparently overwhelmed and resorted to the reads we had before the day flip. It's been said before, so I don't know why you keep asking.
I have no clue why OE is actively avoiding talking and hasn't mentioned us. PROBABLY BECAUSE IT'S WORKING FOR HIM.
I'm done fucking repeating myself for you guys.
I'm not going to repeat everything that has been said about OE in the thread. I agree that he is scum.
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On March 17 2013 11:14 TLCastingGolems wrote:I find it difficult to believe that "it reminds you" of a game you were no part of. Congrats, you found one of my 2 or 3 scum games ever. Moreover, that was about a year and a half ago. There is no meta there because I have no scum meta. Over the span of 3 years of playing with long breaks sporadically placed, I have played something other than VT so few times. That game was interesting because Palmar rolled over D1 screwing us over. I also didn't have a second head to deal with (haven't ever hydrad before).
Howabout a more recent game then? I've read your filter in Mafia LX as well. You were town, and you had no shortage of post-specific analysis in your filter:
...Case on Veyush http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294¤tpage=51#1013
...On JungeJeorge http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294¤tpage=118#2351
...want me to go on?
Your filter this game is devoid of analysis. Except for maybe your case on Yamato, which you are eschewing in favor of the OE lynch. And you still haven't explained how on earth an OE/Yamato scumteam makes sense.
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Oh that was Wave? Sign yer dang posts =/
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On March 17 2013 11:24 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote: Oh that was Wave? Sign yer dang posts =/
I've been telling him to, but he's an idiot. Sorry to disappoint you.
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Though if Wave wrote that case and you're not standing by it, then that means you haven't posted a single case all game.
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On March 17 2013 11:28 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote: Though if Wave wrote that case and you're not standing by it, then that means you haven't posted a single case all game.
I'm sorry?
It's not that I'm not standing by his case. I believe we are more likely to find scum in OE, but that doesn't mean I disagree with his case.
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The point is, ObsQT just posted about how you played in LX, making cases on multiple Toms, Dicks, and Harrys. In this game, you haven't given a solid reason to be suspicious of ANYONE. What gives?
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On March 17 2013 11:39 FiveTouch wrote: The point is, ObsQT just posted about how you played in LX, making cases on multiple Toms, Dicks, and Harrys. In this game, you haven't given a solid reason to be suspicious of ANYONE. What gives?
*shrug* it's different playing as a hydra. My contribution level probably looks less than it feels because of how much me and him were collaborating early on.
You never answered me before, it might have been lost in my post. What do you think of Moology?
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On March 17 2013 11:37 TLCastingGolems wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 11:28 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote: Though if Wave wrote that case and you're not standing by it, then that means you haven't posted a single case all game. I'm sorry? It's not that I'm not standing by his case. I believe we are more likely to find scum in OE, but that doesn't mean I disagree with his case.
It has to do with your play in general. In your town games, you aren't afraid to post analysis, build cases... etc. This game is markedly different from any of your town games I've read.
Why the discrepancy?
Furthermore your game is very conceptually similar (lack of analysis, posting, etc) to a scum-game you've played in the past. Your behavior in past games strongly suggests you're scum.
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On March 17 2013 11:45 TLCastingGolems wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 11:39 FiveTouch wrote: The point is, ObsQT just posted about how you played in LX, making cases on multiple Toms, Dicks, and Harrys. In this game, you haven't given a solid reason to be suspicious of ANYONE. What gives? *shrug* it's different playing as a hydra. My contribution level probably looks less than it feels because of how much me and him were collaborating early on. You never answered me before, it might have been lost in my post. What do you think of Moology?
Why are you asking one of your strongest town reads his opinion on Moology? I should be asking you the same, since I literally have no idea where you stand on most players barring "gut-feeling."
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On March 17 2013 11:45 TLCastingGolems wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 11:39 FiveTouch wrote: The point is, ObsQT just posted about how you played in LX, making cases on multiple Toms, Dicks, and Harrys. In this game, you haven't given a solid reason to be suspicious of ANYONE. What gives? *shrug* it's different playing as a hydra. My contribution level probably looks less than it feels because of how much me and him were collaborating early on. You never answered me before, it might have been lost in my post. What do you think of Moology? I didn't answer you because it was a dumb question. I've made it abundantly clear what my stance on Moology is. Why are you not reading the thread? What is *YOUR* stance on Moology, since you haven't given an opinion on him?
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