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On November 22 2012 00:50 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 18:22 CaveJohnson wrote:
I just woke up to 200 messages in the thread so you are going to have to give me a while to read them.
Don't vote for me
Don't bring me on events (At least not this cycle)
We will need a Medic, Vigilante and probably someone with 999 hp for Lavos so if you can only use your ability once you might want to think about that.
I'll be back in a few hours. I just needed to /confirm Does it strike anyone else as odd that CaveJohnson mentioned an actual hp number? I've been trying to figure it out, but isn't this either a bad move as town (gives scum information about you) or .... some weird scum ploy that I can't see because I would need more information.
On November 22 2012 01:00 syllogism wrote:
Max hp in Chrono trigger the game is 999, that's likely all there is to that. Nothing worth pursuing
At least do the simple research on the game...
Anyway I dislike the dinosaur guy his early posts were all fluff his election campaign is a bigger joke than his reads (Intending to completely waste his vote) and he used the newbie excuse which is generally enough excuse to shoot someone.
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You dislike him, or he's scummy?
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On November 22 2012 02:01 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 00:50 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 21 2012 18:22 CaveJohnson wrote:
I just woke up to 200 messages in the thread so you are going to have to give me a while to read them.
Don't vote for me
Don't bring me on events (At least not this cycle)
We will need a Medic, Vigilante and probably someone with 999 hp for Lavos so if you can only use your ability once you might want to think about that.
I'll be back in a few hours. I just needed to /confirm Does it strike anyone else as odd that CaveJohnson mentioned an actual hp number? I've been trying to figure it out, but isn't this either a bad move as town (gives scum information about you) or .... some weird scum ploy that I can't see because I would need more information. Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 01:00 syllogism wrote:
Max hp in Chrono trigger the game is 999, that's likely all there is to that. Nothing worth pursuing At least do the simple research on the game... Anyway I dislike the dinosaur guy his early posts were all fluff his election campaign is a bigger joke than his reads (Intending to completely waste his vote) and he used the newbie excuse which is generally enough excuse to shoot someone.
So you think a noob scum is blatantly going to come into the tread in the way he did?
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On November 22 2012 01:14 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 00:36 Oatsmaster wrote:kush makes me want to shout at him in every single post... Ok for now, I think the party leader should be toadesstern because He started off his post with a scumread, which shows effort in reading the thread instead of mindlessly posting without actually analysing anything like almost every player so far. His posts look really sincere and his logic is spot on On November 21 2012 17:13 Toadesstern wrote:
Oh and I forgot: Yeah we need to find someone to send d1 and that's all nice and fine but I don't think it's a good way to keep the talk all focused on only that.
Faking townreads as mafias is incredibly easy. Faking mafiareads as mafia is something that takes effort. If we're only going to talk about who we're going to send d1 we're giving mafia an incredibly easy time skating by.
I know it feels counterintuitive as clearly the shortterm "goal" is to send a good guy d1 but I think we should try and balance those issues out. After all, the goal in the longrun is to figure people out and we won't be able to do that by playing nice all day long. His posts look really hard to fake for scum and because of his reputation as being imba, I am voting Toadesstern ##Vote: Toadsstern You clearly don't know toad at all. You don't even know toad's reputation. 1. Toad is notoriously hard to read. He posts giant walls of text that ramble on as either alignment and gets into hissyfits with whoever he feels like (most notoriously bugs and VE) as either alignment. 2. If he is imba, he is imba as scum, not so much as town. Personal opinion here, but I haven't seen toad make the difference as town. Unlike some other players in this game. Now on to the beef of your post: why exactly do you feel his posts are hard to fake as scum? What specific quality makes you lean town on him? So far I am seeing you park your vote in a similar manner to Keirathi, for a similar reason.
Last time I had to gather people I was some sort of mason who get's to invite people each and every night to join his QT resulting in the QT growing in number every cycle and having an incredibly powerfull town-circle.
I think I picked something like 5 townies straight without a problem at all, including people like WBG who are notoriously hard to read according to most people here. The only mistake I made was when I gambled in lategame as we had 2 Kenpachi-like people (real Kenpachi and someone like Kenpachi) who didn't play the game while not being able to get a read on Marv as well. I picked Marv because I figured that if neither of those 2 Kenpachis is mafia we've lost anyways because one of them will get lynched at some point and it already was lylo.
So yeah I think I'm pretty decent when it comes to that as well. I agree I'm by no way the best scumhunter around and I'm mostly working by process of elimination but that's because I trust in my townreads so heavily and they're never wrong.
So yeah I think I'm the right guy for the job.
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On November 22 2012 02:04 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:01 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 22 2012 00:50 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 21 2012 18:22 CaveJohnson wrote:
I just woke up to 200 messages in the thread so you are going to have to give me a while to read them.
Don't vote for me
Don't bring me on events (At least not this cycle)
We will need a Medic, Vigilante and probably someone with 999 hp for Lavos so if you can only use your ability once you might want to think about that.
I'll be back in a few hours. I just needed to /confirm Does it strike anyone else as odd that CaveJohnson mentioned an actual hp number? I've been trying to figure it out, but isn't this either a bad move as town (gives scum information about you) or .... some weird scum ploy that I can't see because I would need more information. On November 22 2012 01:00 syllogism wrote:
Max hp in Chrono trigger the game is 999, that's likely all there is to that. Nothing worth pursuing At least do the simple research on the game... Anyway I dislike the dinosaur guy his early posts were all fluff his election campaign is a bigger joke than his reads (Intending to completely waste his vote) and he used the newbie excuse which is generally enough excuse to shoot someone. So you think a noob scum is blatantly going to come into the tread in the way he did?
Would't put it past another member of his team to tell him to do that.
We have all seen people emulate Blazinghand.
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Cave, who is your party leader at this point and why?
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Before you accuse me of being scum, would you mind revealing your main account, CaveJohnson?
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On November 22 2012 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 01:39 Toadesstern wrote:On November 21 2012 22:48 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, ok. Syllo is running. That makes me feel a bit better about taking a back seat. At least there's a choice.
No offence, iamperfection and dino, but given your play so far, you are not serious contestants. screw you. I am running as well. Yay you are back. What do you think about my case on Clarity?
I don't think it's that much yet.
I really don't want to get into detail about that though.
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On November 22 2012 02:09 marvellosity wrote:
*colours Cave in orange*
Can I have a legend for your color scheme?
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On November 22 2012 02:11 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 22 2012 01:39 Toadesstern wrote:On November 21 2012 22:48 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, ok. Syllo is running. That makes me feel a bit better about taking a back seat. At least there's a choice.
No offence, iamperfection and dino, but given your play so far, you are not serious contestants. screw you. I am running as well. Yay you are back. What do you think about my case on Clarity? I don't think it's that much yet. I really don't want to get into detail about that though.
Because?
Clarity is acting like you have said is a scum read, posting a lot but without content.
Or did I read your earlier posts wrongly?
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Well Im going to sleep now, see you guys later! Day 1 looking good so far IN MY OPINION.
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On November 22 2012 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:11 Toadesstern wrote:On November 22 2012 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 22 2012 01:39 Toadesstern wrote:On November 21 2012 22:48 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, ok. Syllo is running. That makes me feel a bit better about taking a back seat. At least there's a choice.
No offence, iamperfection and dino, but given your play so far, you are not serious contestants. screw you. I am running as well. Yay you are back. What do you think about my case on Clarity? I don't think it's that much yet. I really don't want to get into detail about that though. Because? Clarity is acting like you have said is a scum read, posting a lot but without content. Or did I read your earlier posts wrongly?
You're taking things at face value, but you have no concept of each player's meta. Blanket statements are reasons for suspicion but you need to demonstrate why something is scummy. Clarity asks questions, he's involved in conversations. I'm learning that if I want to read him, I need to direct questions back at him for him to answer. Trying to draw information from others while not giving your own is not necessarily scummy.
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You know catching up with this thread is a million times worse than I was hoping, remember how I said that I was toning down the amount which I am posting? Could you all do me a favour and consolidate too. Thanks.
After reading the last ~20 pages I have come to a conclusion as to who I want to vote. It isn't Sylo and it isn't Sand. Their abilities are, no doubt, incredible but I don't like the way Sand took over the thread early and no one challenged him. I feel that a mafia player would in fact have tried to take over. (Remember Matt's reed of Decundo in PP) as such I'll be voting away from the two of them and towards someone who I read as town right now and who is known for having good reads.
## Vote: Acro
Come on boys, lets do this right and make Sand have to fight for his nomination.
I'll be out again for a few hours. See ya'll soon.
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On November 22 2012 02:16 Hopeless1der wrote:Can I have a legend for your color scheme?
orange is a scumread. Z-bo/Hapa were this colour end of day 1 in mario. Crossfire was in red when I died, for "i'm certain".
Cave comes in calling some fluffly nublet scum without actually calling him scum and for nebulous reasons. Supremely easy target. "his mafia team could have told him to do that" is nonsense too.
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On November 22 2012 02:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:16 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 22 2012 02:09 marvellosity wrote:
*colours Cave in orange* Can I have a legend for your color scheme? orange is a scumread. Z-bo/Hapa were this colour end of day 1 in mario. Crossfire was in red when I died, for "i'm certain". Cave comes in calling some fluffly nublet scum without actually calling him scum and for nebulous reasons. Supremely easy target. "his mafia team could have told him to do that" is nonsense too.
Does this scale move across to green/blue? What color are you and what color is syllo?
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On November 22 2012 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:11 Toadesstern wrote:On November 22 2012 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 22 2012 01:39 Toadesstern wrote:On November 21 2012 22:48 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, ok. Syllo is running. That makes me feel a bit better about taking a back seat. At least there's a choice.
No offence, iamperfection and dino, but given your play so far, you are not serious contestants. screw you. I am running as well. Yay you are back. What do you think about my case on Clarity? I don't think it's that much yet. I really don't want to get into detail about that though. Because? Clarity is acting like you have said is a scum read, posting a lot but without content. Or did I read your earlier posts wrongly?
I found something I consider to be a towntreat though as mentioned I'd rather not explain that kind of stuff because if I do people will know what to say to make me think they're town...
Again another reason why we shouldn't talk about people's townreads and rather focus on peoples mafiareads.
And let's be frank here: I like to exaggerate early on as long as it's for a reason. What I said about Keirathi holds true and I think it's a bad sign but I purposely went overboard labeling him mafia early on over something that might as well be something else.
Most people are having troubles talking about "stuff" if there's no stuff available so the main purpose was to get people talking about mafiareads instead of talking about townreads because again, I think it's going to be really hard to get a grasp of what's going on if everyone's just able to make a weak post about why they think one out of 25 people might be town.
So basicly I agree with some of the things you mentioned but there's also stuff I interpret the other way around.
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On November 22 2012 02:28 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:27 marvellosity wrote:On November 22 2012 02:16 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 22 2012 02:09 marvellosity wrote:
*colours Cave in orange* Can I have a legend for your color scheme? orange is a scumread. Z-bo/Hapa were this colour end of day 1 in mario. Crossfire was in red when I died, for "i'm certain". Cave comes in calling some fluffly nublet scum without actually calling him scum and for nebulous reasons. Supremely easy target. "his mafia team could have told him to do that" is nonsense too. Does this scale move across to green/blue? What color are you and what color is syllo?
I'm in green for certain town, also reserved for people I'm totally sure on. Cyan for moderate townread, where syllo currently resides.
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On November 22 2012 02:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:16 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 22 2012 02:09 marvellosity wrote:
*colours Cave in orange* Can I have a legend for your color scheme? orange is a scumread. Z-bo/Hapa were this colour end of day 1 in mario. Crossfire was in red when I died, for "i'm certain". Cave comes in calling some fluffly nublet scum without actually calling him scum and for nebulous reasons. Supremely easy target. "his mafia team could have told him to do that" is nonsense too.
Easy target != wrong
Kill the easy targets before end game or you lose its simple game logic. Trying to go around that on day 1 is idiotic and foolish and you should know better.
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