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slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
September 29 2013 06:38 GMT
#761
how did terrans counter dark swarm in BW?
jjakji fan
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 29 2013 06:38 GMT
#762
On September 29 2013 15:34 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 15:31 Shellshock wrote:
On September 29 2013 15:27 Shellshock wrote:
On September 29 2013 15:24 Shellshock wrote:
[Code S] Ro16 Group D WCS KR S3 2013
[image loading] (T)Flash vs. [image loading] (Z)KangHo
Game 2 (1-0)
Map: Frost

0:00
Flash spawns in the bottom right
KangHo spawns in the top right

2:00
hatch first for KangHo
CC first on the low ground for Flash
rax for Flash
gas for Flash

3:00
3rd hatch before pool for KangHo
gas for KangHo
pool for KangHo
overlord scouts the CC first of Flash

4:00
gas for Flash
bunker in the natural of Flash
Factory for Flash

5:00
ling speed for KangHo
2nd factory for Flash
reactor for Flash
reactored hellion production started for Flash
tech lab for Flash

6:00
triple hellion production for Flash
blue flame research for Flash
KangHo going up to 6 queens
Flash scouts KangHo's 3rd

7:00 57 vs 62
3rd CC started for Flash
3 more gas for KangHo
Hellions moving behind KangHo's 3rd
double evo for Kangho walling the natural
overlord only scouts 1 factory for Flash

8:00 74 vs 81
spore going up for KangHo
double armory for Flash
2 more gas for Flash
blue flame is revealed and Flash begins attacking
the hellions get blocked at a ramp by queens and lings

9:00 75 vs 91
Hellions try to poke at the 3rd but KangHo deflects it
1-1 roach upgrades for Kangho
Roach warren for KangHo
Flash loses almost all of his hellions
1-1 vehicle upgrades for Flash
tank production started for Flash
Lair for KangHo

10:00 68 vs 92
3 more factories for Flash
4th base for KangHo
Flash floating out his 3rd
hellbats started for Flash
5th base for Kangho
overlord speed for KangHo
6th factory for Flash

11:00 87 vs 111
Hydralisk den for KangHo
infestation pit for KangHo
Roach speed for KangHo
Thor started for Flash
ling runby to the 3rd of FLash is cleaned up

12:00 112 vs 104
Hydra range for KangHo
2-2 for KangHo
Burrow research for KangHo
2-2 started for Flash
Hive started for KangHo
ebay for Flash
hellions trying to deny creep spread

13:00 149 vs 148
Hydras started for KangHo
hellion ruby to the top left base of KangHo
the hellions are traded for 8 drones
Burrow movement started for KangHo
triple thor production for Flash
Hydra speed for KangHo

14:00 175 vs 180
Flash starting to push out with some scvs for repair
Flash starting to clean up creep
viper started for KangHo
5 overseers fly into Flash's main and contaminate a bunch of factories
4th CC for Flash

15:00 193 vs 197
2-2 finishes for KangHo and he goes in to attack Flash's army
KangHo kills off a bunch of tanks and takes a 30 supply lead
3 more vipers for KangHo
Flash retreats with his 2 remaining thors

16:00 140 vs 180
Kangho making a bunch of roaches
5th CC for Flash
Flash cleaning up some more creep to take another base
KangHo runs in as Flash unsieges
blinding cloud on Flash's army

17:00 140 vs 194
Flash is losing his army to roaches
blinding cloud on more tanks
KangHos is forced back from the natural
KangHo regroups and moves in again
scvs are pulled to repair tanks

18:00 115 vs 167
more roaches and hydras rally in
3-3 started for KangHo
6th base for KangHo
KangHo backs off again
+3 attack started for Flash
Flash lands his 4th base

19:00 128 vs 200
KangHo moves in for another attack
blinding cloud on almost all of the tanks of Flash
PF morphing at Flash's 4th
Flash is losing a large number of tanks

20:00 113 vs 188
Hydras target down Flash's 4th CC
Spire for KangHo
overlord creep blocking Flash's 4th base location with an overlord
ebay rebuilding for Flash
thor started for Flash
KangHo moving out with another roach hydra viper army
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
September 29 2013 06:38 GMT
#763
as much fun as it is to watch, you can't just magically buff mech to make it viable, the problem is really that it doesn't fit the flow of sc2

going mech is like saying "i want to have even less mobility than protoss with none of the things protoss has to compensate for their bad mobility"
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
September 29 2013 06:38 GMT
#764
On September 29 2013 15:37 HugzForL wrote:
viper good unit

For real. Its sort of funny how much mech got nerfed in HotS
dreaming of a sunny day
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
September 29 2013 06:38 GMT
#765
Mech sucks. Such a shame.
Flash | Mvp
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
September 29 2013 06:38 GMT
#766
"Flash is dead" ~ Nietsche
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
September 29 2013 06:38 GMT
#767
ABDUCT the sieged tanks also works!!

gg
jjakji fan
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
September 29 2013 06:38 GMT
#768
yea...
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 29 2013 06:39 GMT
#769
Poll: Recommend Flash vs KangHo Game 2?

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
 
31%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (8)
 
28%

★★★ - Good game (6)
 
21%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
 
10%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3)
 
10%

29 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Flash vs KangHo Game 2?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 29 2013 06:39 GMT
#770
On September 29 2013 15:38 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 15:34 Shellshock wrote:
On September 29 2013 15:31 Shellshock wrote:
On September 29 2013 15:27 Shellshock wrote:
On September 29 2013 15:24 Shellshock wrote:
[Code S] Ro16 Group D WCS KR S3 2013
[image loading] (T)Flash vs. [image loading] (Z)KangHo
Game 2 (1-0)
Map: Frost

0:00
Flash spawns in the bottom right
KangHo spawns in the top right

2:00
hatch first for KangHo
CC first on the low ground for Flash
rax for Flash
gas for Flash

3:00
3rd hatch before pool for KangHo
gas for KangHo
pool for KangHo
overlord scouts the CC first of Flash

4:00
gas for Flash
bunker in the natural of Flash
Factory for Flash

5:00
ling speed for KangHo
2nd factory for Flash
reactor for Flash
reactored hellion production started for Flash
tech lab for Flash

6:00
triple hellion production for Flash
blue flame research for Flash
KangHo going up to 6 queens
Flash scouts KangHo's 3rd

7:00 57 vs 62
3rd CC started for Flash
3 more gas for KangHo
Hellions moving behind KangHo's 3rd
double evo for Kangho walling the natural
overlord only scouts 1 factory for Flash

8:00 74 vs 81
spore going up for KangHo
double armory for Flash
2 more gas for Flash
blue flame is revealed and Flash begins attacking
the hellions get blocked at a ramp by queens and lings

9:00 75 vs 91
Hellions try to poke at the 3rd but KangHo deflects it
1-1 roach upgrades for Kangho
Roach warren for KangHo
Flash loses almost all of his hellions
1-1 vehicle upgrades for Flash
tank production started for Flash
Lair for KangHo

10:00 68 vs 92
3 more factories for Flash
4th base for KangHo
Flash floating out his 3rd
hellbats started for Flash
5th base for Kangho
overlord speed for KangHo
6th factory for Flash

11:00 87 vs 111
Hydralisk den for KangHo
infestation pit for KangHo
Roach speed for KangHo
Thor started for Flash
ling runby to the 3rd of FLash is cleaned up

12:00 112 vs 104
Hydra range for KangHo
2-2 for KangHo
Burrow research for KangHo
2-2 started for Flash
Hive started for KangHo
ebay for Flash
hellions trying to deny creep spread

13:00 149 vs 148
Hydras started for KangHo
hellion ruby to the top left base of KangHo
the hellions are traded for 8 drones
Burrow movement started for KangHo
triple thor production for Flash
Hydra speed for KangHo

14:00 175 vs 180
Flash starting to push out with some scvs for repair
Flash starting to clean up creep
viper started for KangHo
5 overseers fly into Flash's main and contaminate a bunch of factories
4th CC for Flash

15:00 193 vs 197
2-2 finishes for KangHo and he goes in to attack Flash's army
KangHo kills off a bunch of tanks and takes a 30 supply lead
3 more vipers for KangHo
Flash retreats with his 2 remaining thors

16:00 140 vs 180
Kangho making a bunch of roaches
5th CC for Flash
Flash cleaning up some more creep to take another base
KangHo runs in as Flash unsieges
blinding cloud on Flash's army

17:00 140 vs 194
Flash is losing his army to roaches
blinding cloud on more tanks
KangHos is forced back from the natural
KangHo regroups and moves in again
scvs are pulled to repair tanks

18:00 115 vs 167
more roaches and hydras rally in
3-3 started for KangHo
6th base for KangHo
KangHo backs off again
+3 attack started for Flash
Flash lands his 4th base

19:00 128 vs 200
KangHo moves in for another attack
blinding cloud on almost all of the tanks of Flash
PF morphing at Flash's 4th
Flash is losing a large number of tanks

20:00 113 vs 188
Hydras target down Flash's 4th CC
Spire for KangHo
overlord creep blocking Flash's 4th base location with an overlord
ebay rebuilding for Flash
thor started for Flash
KangHo moving out with another roach hydra viper army

21:00 146 vs 193
KangHo just attacks and kills the tanks
Flash ggs!
KangHo ties it up 1-1!
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
September 29 2013 06:39 GMT
#771
ty again shellbot. You're a cool guy.
dreaming of a sunny day
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33479 Posts
September 29 2013 06:39 GMT
#772
On September 29 2013 15:38 slowbacontron wrote:
how did terrans counter dark swarm in BW?


blinding cloud and dark swarm aren't even close in what they do
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
September 29 2013 06:39 GMT
#773
I'm not quite sure why Vipers got Blinding Cloud & Scorpion-Mortal-Kombat-Move... they both serve anti-mech purposes :S
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
September 29 2013 06:39 GMT
#774
if you can beat it with roach hydra...
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 29 2013 06:39 GMT
#775
On September 29 2013 15:38 slowbacontron wrote:
how did terrans counter dark swarm in BW?


There was this unit called the science vessel.
Moderator
KoRStarvid
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden767 Posts
September 29 2013 06:39 GMT
#776
OK, so this is why mech doesnt work...
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
September 29 2013 06:39 GMT
#777
On September 29 2013 15:38 slowbacontron wrote:
how did terrans counter dark swarm in BW?

Irradiate.
SolidMoose
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1240 Posts
September 29 2013 06:39 GMT
#778
Yikes. Vipers just shit all over mech
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
September 29 2013 06:39 GMT
#779
On September 29 2013 15:39 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 15:38 slowbacontron wrote:
how did terrans counter dark swarm in BW?


blinding cloud and dark swarm aren't even close in what they do

oh sorry D:
jjakji fan
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 29 2013 06:39 GMT
#780
The Viper vs Tank relation is even more stupid than the Immortal vs Tank one, which says a lot.
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