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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
September 19 2011 20:42 GMT
#741
On September 19 2011 05:08 chaos13 wrote:
Sorry I haven't been around, been busy, and this may be my only chance to post today. I will be voting for supersoft.

Let's take a look at some of his posts:

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On September 17 2011 20:26 supersoft wrote:
i was thinking the same about wbg and I also filtered him. wbgs post seem to be artificial to me.


Take note of this - he thinks WBG is scummy. While he doesn't say it outright (not wanting to commit to a stance) he implies it by saying it's 'artificial'.


Now we've got his opinion on a bunch of different players, and in the post following this one he states that these are the players he is most suspicious of.

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On September 18 2011 09:25 supersoft wrote:
okay I just catched up and made my notes.

chaoser
votes Greymist to start the discussion and pressure him (doesnt really vote in the thread)
DrH and Drazerk follow him on that - therefore he concludes that they are probably town.

„From that action, I'm leaning on Dr.H and Drazerk being town since they immediately pick up on what I'm trying to do and votes to put pressure on
greymist.“


This might be some kind of a scumslip. I don't know why he posts that. They are not under pressure and he's not under pressure.

He also votes prplhz. I don't think prplhz is a better lynchcandidate than Greymist. Chaoser is suspicious in my eyes

Not once has he mentioned either Greymist or prplhz previously, and he provides no reasons for his reads here. Apparently because chaoser disagrees with supersoft's unspoken reads, that makes him suspicious. This is not townie behavior.

GreYMisT
He made a joke about the ring in his first post. Chaoser DrH and Drazerk vote him. I defend him and say it probably was a joke. He comes back and says that chaoser and DrH provided good reasons for their votes on him? - Suspicious. Obviously they had no good reasons, they just wanted to start a discussion.
Okay. Later on he agrees with me and says it was a joke.

Recaps what Greymist has done this game. Cool. That provides nothing useful at all, anyone could have done this. Weak reason for being suspicious. Again, not townie behavior.

@ Navillus
ah, you claim VT. I'd like to know what race you are. like hobbit/dwarf etc. Just curious. Can you say your name? I just want to know.

Why is this guy on your suspicious list?

@ Drazerk

How do you know, that postrestricions are definetely in place. Are you restricted? I'll filter you :-P

about Drazerk: He votes grey, thinks he posted a reason before, but hasnt... lol

Again, just repeating what's happened so far. Providing nothing new or useful.

iGrok

Votes Drazerk. Gives no reason. I expect way more out of him. I saw him play as GF in my first mafiagame on TL.net.
He made huge posts, gave reasons etc. If you're town, please give some more reasons etc.

Best reasoning so far, but still weak. His entire explanation here is that he plays better; doesn't find any scummy behavior, just that he isn't townie enough.

@ TranceStorm
your plan sucks.

Bad plan =/= scum. Besides, his plan really isn't that bad. I can't see any way in which it will hurt us badly.


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On September 18 2011 09:28 supersoft wrote:
these players are suspicious for me so far. WBG isn't he could be everything. He also could be Bilbo who's crazy and just wants his ring back; he could be Gollum; he could be Sauron. Whatever, we don't know.


Remember earlier when I was talking about what sort of contradictions are scumtells and which aren't? This is one that is a scum tell. For no apparent reason, WBG is no longer suspicious. In fact, supersoft doesn't commit to any particular stance here. After feeling WBG was artificial, he could now be absolutely anything. This encompasses two different mafia characteristics in one:
1. Contradiction of opinion without new evidence
2. Non-committal wishy-washy stance

These are the only posts with notable content from supersoft. He's scum. No, he's not.

##Vote supersoft


ah yeah. lol. this is your accusation?

this is a circular reasoning. The time I called wbg artificial, no one thought about a post-restriction yet. After I saw this post-restriction assumption, I knew why he was artificial. Because of the post restriction ofc. The riddle is solved. Consequently he's not one of my targets anymore, because besides his artificial behavior he wasn't scummy.
There is no contradiction of opinion without new evidence. The new evidence was the post-restriction. A contradiction is nowhere near.

Wishywashy? Okay I am wishywashy. You know what? I even apologize for that. I am in Berlin and currently work in the German Parliament for 3 days. I return home at Wednesday. I was offered this opportunity yesterday so didn't knew it earlier.
However, because I am not on the scumteam, noone can provide me with information about what's going on. Therefore I have to read the whole thread with my iphone. GG

Anyway. This doesn't stop me from kicking the scumteams ass.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 19 2011 20:50 GMT
#742
On September 20 2011 05:40 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 05:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 20 2011 05:24 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On September 20 2011 04:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 20 2011 04:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On September 20 2011 04:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 20 2011 03:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:50 syllogism wrote:
Cyber_Cheese who do you think is scummy? Your activity has been very low and your only post that could be characterized as a contribution is a list post in which you don't really find anyone scummy, except sort of the person you are voting based on rather flimsy reasoning.


I'd rather save all the convincing arguments until daytime where they will be useful, and I can throw my initial vote in alongside them.


Was this post serious?

Surprised no one caught it.


No, it was an excuse to put it off because I don't actually have them written up.
Since you want my thoughts, I'm going to give basic versions for now.
My current plan is to write something up on TranceStorm come day 2, and possibly other people involved in swinging the vote to someone none of us would have considered at the time I last posted on day 1.
I believe one of you/prphlz/DrH is scum, but I'm not sure which, and I'm leaning towards checking you first because you changed your vote the most, possibly looking for bandwagons, but the list of people that swung the vote seems more relevant to me.


IMO You get on the right track toward the end but it's bad to assume things.

Think about the justifications for your assumptions and see if they're valid. What reason is there for assuming only one of us 3 could be scum? Could we all be scum? Could there be two of us as scum? Could we all NOT be scum?

If you make an incorrect assumption and base the rest of your argument around it your argument will look okay, but it'll be really wrong. Mafia, in addition, will jump all over it and make you a target.

Unless, ofc, you're scum, in which case I'm want to believe that you actually have no valid opinions.


That was a summary of my current beliefs, it's not to say I'm not open to suggestion, and the relation to you three and the swung vote is something I plan on looking into further.
Rest assured that you aren't really my primary focus at the moment WBG.
I'm willing to chalk the multiple votes up to your huge amount of activity and the voting insecurities that come with Day 1, and you've been much more active than many of the people who swung the vote, added to the fact that you didn't end with a vote on Errandor.
As an aside, it comes across that you feel the need to discredit everybody. I maybe looking at it the wrong way and be wrong about that, but either way, I'd like to remind you.
One does not simply discredit into Mordor.
+ Show Spoiler +
OH YEAH 37 COOL POINTS!


Au contraire I believe I have pointed out that there are people in this town who have been posting fairly logically.

Examples that come to mind are Radfield (though his read was wrong) sandroba, to some extent Syllogism, and jcarl.

People who aren't making sense but probably town: Pyo, TranceStorm

People who I think are scum: Dr. H, Jackal, Drazerk. Possibly a couple others as well but I will not reveal those names yet.

The vast majority of the other players fall into some sort of null/fenceish category


Yeah I just really wanted to be the first to use the Mordor line more than anything, it's not actually that accurate. It was a recent impression that I realised was wrong from your filter. hence all the looking at it wrong way buisness.

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On September 20 2011 05:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 20 2011 05:26 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
EBWOP: that was supposed to be discredit everybody who speaks of you in a negative light


There's a specific reason for this.

It's actually not terribly hard to figure out, either.


Survival instinct, and I'd love to continue talking about it but it seems like it would sidetrack the scum hunt.
What makes you think TraceStorm might be town?


Trancestorm is town IMO because of the way he posts. He responds to a lot of things and it appears he puts in more genuine effort than most other players in this game.

In addition his plan wrt to the ring was bad but it actually promoted discussion. After I pushed him a little and he posted more I saw less and less to suggest that he's scum.

Is he for sure town? Certainly we don't know anything yet, but there are better focuses today.

Also, bolded is wrong.

Any town players reading this should ask why I would ask for the ring. If you can understand my behavior from my POV then you will see why I was concerned with the easy lynch wagon on me (and the players I found to be scummiest who had left their votes there)
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
September 19 2011 21:12 GMT
#743
On September 20 2011 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 05:40 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On September 20 2011 05:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 20 2011 05:24 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On September 20 2011 04:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 20 2011 04:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On September 20 2011 04:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 20 2011 03:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:50 syllogism wrote:
Cyber_Cheese who do you think is scummy? Your activity has been very low and your only post that could be characterized as a contribution is a list post in which you don't really find anyone scummy, except sort of the person you are voting based on rather flimsy reasoning.


I'd rather save all the convincing arguments until daytime where they will be useful, and I can throw my initial vote in alongside them.


Was this post serious?

Surprised no one caught it.


No, it was an excuse to put it off because I don't actually have them written up.
Since you want my thoughts, I'm going to give basic versions for now.
My current plan is to write something up on TranceStorm come day 2, and possibly other people involved in swinging the vote to someone none of us would have considered at the time I last posted on day 1.
I believe one of you/prphlz/DrH is scum, but I'm not sure which, and I'm leaning towards checking you first because you changed your vote the most, possibly looking for bandwagons, but the list of people that swung the vote seems more relevant to me.


IMO You get on the right track toward the end but it's bad to assume things.

Think about the justifications for your assumptions and see if they're valid. What reason is there for assuming only one of us 3 could be scum? Could we all be scum? Could there be two of us as scum? Could we all NOT be scum?

If you make an incorrect assumption and base the rest of your argument around it your argument will look okay, but it'll be really wrong. Mafia, in addition, will jump all over it and make you a target.

Unless, ofc, you're scum, in which case I'm want to believe that you actually have no valid opinions.


That was a summary of my current beliefs, it's not to say I'm not open to suggestion, and the relation to you three and the swung vote is something I plan on looking into further.
Rest assured that you aren't really my primary focus at the moment WBG.
I'm willing to chalk the multiple votes up to your huge amount of activity and the voting insecurities that come with Day 1, and you've been much more active than many of the people who swung the vote, added to the fact that you didn't end with a vote on Errandor.
As an aside, it comes across that you feel the need to discredit everybody. I maybe looking at it the wrong way and be wrong about that, but either way, I'd like to remind you.
One does not simply discredit into Mordor.
+ Show Spoiler +
OH YEAH 37 COOL POINTS!


Au contraire I believe I have pointed out that there are people in this town who have been posting fairly logically.

Examples that come to mind are Radfield (though his read was wrong) sandroba, to some extent Syllogism, and jcarl.

People who aren't making sense but probably town: Pyo, TranceStorm

People who I think are scum: Dr. H, Jackal, Drazerk. Possibly a couple others as well but I will not reveal those names yet.

The vast majority of the other players fall into some sort of null/fenceish category


Yeah I just really wanted to be the first to use the Mordor line more than anything, it's not actually that accurate. It was a recent impression that I realised was wrong from your filter. hence all the looking at it wrong way buisness.

On September 20 2011 05:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 20 2011 05:26 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
EBWOP: that was supposed to be discredit everybody who speaks of you in a negative light


There's a specific reason for this.

It's actually not terribly hard to figure out, either.


Survival instinct, and I'd love to continue talking about it but it seems like it would sidetrack the scum hunt.
What makes you think TraceStorm might be town?


Trancestorm is town IMO because of the way he posts. He responds to a lot of things and it appears he puts in more genuine effort than most other players in this game.

In addition his plan wrt to the ring was bad but it actually promoted discussion. After I pushed him a little and he posted more I saw less and less to suggest that he's scum.

Is he for sure town? Certainly we don't know anything yet, but there are better focuses today.

Also, bolded is wrong.

Any town players reading this should ask why I would ask for the ring. If you can understand my behavior from my POV then you will see why I was concerned with the easy lynch wagon on me (and the players I found to be scummiest who had left their votes there)


Well assuming does make an ass out of me, I figured nobody wants to die in mafia, and discrediting the person making the argument can be more effective than discrediting the argument.

I agree that once you picked your game up you weren't a sensible a vote, and from your point of view I can understand an annoyance at the people who didn't decide to cut you a break after you did pick your game up. I'm not entirely sold on that making them necessarily scummy.
There is one more question I have for you, what is your opinion on prphlz, the other person that was leading the vote before the swing?
And for that matter, prphlz, what's your opinion on WBG?
You both never voted on each other at any point yesterday, despite multiple vote changes.
And finally I want to drag some of the other much less mentioned people who swung the vote forward, but one thing at a time.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
September 19 2011 21:27 GMT
#744
i thought he was acting more like 3rd party than like scum and i didn't want everybody to lock their votes onto a 3rd party that early in the day and then later when he picked up his game i don't know what to think but i doubt he's scum, anyway i'd like to keep him around for now
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
September 19 2011 22:10 GMT
#745
I don't have a great deal of time so I probably won't post again until the daypost, but if I can't push it tomorrow because I die tonight, prplhz needs to die, especially if I'm shot.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
September 19 2011 22:34 GMT
#746
JEEJEE I see what you're doing, BUT YOU HAVE TO POST MORE TO NOT GET MODKILLED. You need to post 2 or 3 times this cycle.

On September 20 2011 03:36 wherebugsgo wrote:

If that's arrogance and you guys don't want me to play, I'll replace out.


You're playing fine, don't sub out, just settle down a bit. Reading your posts it feels like you're jumping up and down in your seat while typing.

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 20 2011 03:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 18:32 Jackal58 wrote:
Alright, it's night time now. Give Bugs the ring and get him out of here.


You seem so convinced that giving WBG the ring will get them out of the game. I don't know why you're so convinced..

However, the fact that Jackal keeps repeating this after being called out on it several times surprises me. It doesn't logically make sense as scum play. I would expect scum to drop it after a while. However, he seems really locked into his point of view on this, which I would expect more from a town player.


Now, I definitely want people to keep the list of votes on erandorr in the back of their minds:

Palmar
Radfield
Syllogism
prplhz
kitaman27
OriginalName
Vain
TranceStorm
xtffc

Think about how quickly the bandwagon formed and filled up. I knew it felt wrong, and I'll be the first to admit that I didn't feel confident enough in myself to argue against Radfield to try and stop it. Before Radfield's post, prpl was leading the lynch vote. This has only made me more suspicious of prpl, and it makes me really want to take a deep look into Radfield.

Looking down the list, I see Palmar at the very top. His posts consist of:

+ Show Spoiler +

hey guys, I'm in a good mood so I'm not gonna ruin it by reading the thread. See you tomorrow


Radfield is a cool guy and Errandor has done nothing that looks like town posting.

WBG is almost definitely not scum, just put yourselves in his shoes, why the shit would he post the things he's done if he was scum, he's basically piling on attention and scummyness by wanting to look for his precious, outright demanding it.

I'll be voting for Errandor.


filter
Still in good mood, cba telling you why you're having a case of the bads.

I don't like the case on prplhz either.


DrH is giving me really bad vibes.


These all wreak of uselessness. It also connects Palmar and Radfield. The little, scummy bandwagon that started on Erandorr starts with them.

We also see prplhz jumping onto the Erandorr votes quickly.

When I saw kitaman's name on the list, it made me realize just how little he had done this game. If you filter his posts, you won't find much of anything. It's mostly a lot of posts asking others their opinions, and not giving his own. In the couple posts that he did have opinions in, they were weak and not definitive. I'm definitely watching kita. You better start actually contributing.

Lastly (for now):

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On September 19 2011 08:42 Ciryandor wrote:
Errandor you derp. I may die tonight...


You cannot expect to say something like this and get away with it. You got some 'splainin to do.



Erandorr was a fine lynch. Everyone seems to be coming out of the woodworks right now softballing suspicion on me, but it's awful easy to shout that after the lynch. You didn't feel confident enough to argue against it because you thought there was a decent chance he would flip scum, same as me. As far as Day 1 votes go, he was the best I had to offer, and better in my opinion than prp and much better than WBG.

You're attempted linking of me to a non-contributing player is noted. Particularly after he blatantly buddy-buddied me. If I flip town tonight is that supposed to give Palmar townie cred?

However you do have some good points. The bandwagon on Erandorr grew incredibly quick, and if prp does flip red, that gives us a ton of info. Frankly I screwed up yesterday. Not about lynching Erandorr, but about the timing. I thought Day was ending several hours later than it did, and forgot that it had been pushed up by 2-3 hours. 8 votes in 2 hours is exceptionally swift. This is the cause of 1 of 2 things: A good Day 1 case when there are no others(possible), or, a swing from a scum lynch to a town lynch(also possible).

Frankly the whole Erandorr voting list is filled with players who look bad:

Palmar has done nothing, Syllo On and stffc look scummy. Vain and Kita I don't know right now, but will look into if I'm still alive in 40 minutes.

I have much more to say but have to run. My post isn't supposed to end here, but I have to go. Will be back in a couple hours

_____________
WBG looks town, Navillus looks townish too
Cyber looks awful, but town awful, not scum awful, which is exactly how he looked in Hesmyrrs game.

Palmar needs to step it up or die. Same for Syllo.

Sandro, Doc H and Chaoser need to keep actively contributing as the game goes on, or else they need to die.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
September 19 2011 22:43 GMT
#747
vigis should save ammo tonight and not flip with their guns or something similarly stupid

also jack and drh needs to get the hell over themselves and not bring all this "lol usuk i r gunna be replace bcuz i h8 u", someone else said this, but if you want to get replaced them PM mod and don't take that shit in here. christ.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 19 2011 22:46 GMT
#748
On September 20 2011 07:34 Radfield wrote:
JEEJEE I see what you're doing, BUT YOU HAVE TO POST MORE TO NOT GET MODKILLED. You need to post 2 or 3 times this cycle.


wat


On September 20 2011 07:34 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 03:36 wherebugsgo wrote:

If that's arrogance and you guys don't want me to play, I'll replace out.


You're playing fine, don't sub out, just settle down a bit. Reading your posts it feels like you're jumping up and down in your seat while typing.


To be completely honest with you I'm actually fairly bored.

Activity level was great during a time I couldn't be at the computer (last four hours of day or so?) but when discussion is slow, like now, I get bothered.

On September 20 2011 07:34 Radfield wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 20 2011 03:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 18:32 Jackal58 wrote:
Alright, it's night time now. Give Bugs the ring and get him out of here.


You seem so convinced that giving WBG the ring will get them out of the game. I don't know why you're so convinced..

However, the fact that Jackal keeps repeating this after being called out on it several times surprises me. It doesn't logically make sense as scum play. I would expect scum to drop it after a while. However, he seems really locked into his point of view on this, which I would expect more from a town player.


Now, I definitely want people to keep the list of votes on erandorr in the back of their minds:

Palmar
Radfield
Syllogism
prplhz
kitaman27
OriginalName
Vain
TranceStorm
xtffc

Think about how quickly the bandwagon formed and filled up. I knew it felt wrong, and I'll be the first to admit that I didn't feel confident enough in myself to argue against Radfield to try and stop it. Before Radfield's post, prpl was leading the lynch vote. This has only made me more suspicious of prpl, and it makes me really want to take a deep look into Radfield.

Looking down the list, I see Palmar at the very top. His posts consist of:

+ Show Spoiler +

hey guys, I'm in a good mood so I'm not gonna ruin it by reading the thread. See you tomorrow


Radfield is a cool guy and Errandor has done nothing that looks like town posting.

WBG is almost definitely not scum, just put yourselves in his shoes, why the shit would he post the things he's done if he was scum, he's basically piling on attention and scummyness by wanting to look for his precious, outright demanding it.

I'll be voting for Errandor.


filter
Still in good mood, cba telling you why you're having a case of the bads.

I don't like the case on prplhz either.


DrH is giving me really bad vibes.


These all wreak of uselessness. It also connects Palmar and Radfield. The little, scummy bandwagon that started on Erandorr starts with them.

We also see prplhz jumping onto the Erandorr votes quickly.

When I saw kitaman's name on the list, it made me realize just how little he had done this game. If you filter his posts, you won't find much of anything. It's mostly a lot of posts asking others their opinions, and not giving his own. In the couple posts that he did have opinions in, they were weak and not definitive. I'm definitely watching kita. You better start actually contributing.

Lastly (for now):

Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 08:42 Ciryandor wrote:
Errandor you derp. I may die tonight...


You cannot expect to say something like this and get away with it. You got some 'splainin to do.



Erandorr was a fine lynch. Everyone seems to be coming out of the woodworks right now softballing suspicion on me, but it's awful easy to shout that after the lynch. You didn't feel confident enough to argue against it because you thought there was a decent chance he would flip scum, same as me. As far as Day 1 votes go, he was the best I had to offer, and better in my opinion than prp and much better than WBG.

You're attempted linking of me to a non-contributing player is noted. Particularly after he blatantly buddy-buddied me. If I flip town tonight is that supposed to give Palmar townie cred?

However you do have some good points. The bandwagon on Erandorr grew incredibly quick, and if prp does flip red, that gives us a ton of info. Frankly I screwed up yesterday. Not about lynching Erandorr, but about the timing. I thought Day was ending several hours later than it did, and forgot that it had been pushed up by 2-3 hours. 8 votes in 2 hours is exceptionally swift. This is the cause of 1 of 2 things: A good Day 1 case when there are no others(possible), or, a swing from a scum lynch to a town lynch(also possible).

Frankly the whole Erandorr voting list is filled with players who look bad:

Palmar has done nothing, Syllo On and stffc look scummy. Vain and Kita I don't know right now, but will look into if I'm still alive in 40 minutes.

I have much more to say but have to run. My post isn't supposed to end here, but I have to go. Will be back in a couple hours

_____________
WBG looks town, Navillus looks townish too
Cyber looks awful, but town awful, not scum awful, which is exactly how he looked in Hesmyrrs game.

Palmar needs to step it up or die. Same for Syllo.

Sandro, Doc H and Chaoser need to keep actively contributing as the game goes on, or else they need to die.


I agree with almost all of this.

One thing I will point out though, is to the people who are trying to establish links between players. The following is entirely my opinion, take it or leave it. I think it's useful to think about, though.

First of all, I think that any "link" you make now is going to flaw your judgment of the players you're trying to link together. For example; some people think Radfield and Palmar are linked because they both voted Erandorr and Erandorr ended up flipping town.

Well, we have some correct facts there, but the assumption is just bad. This assumption of "Palmar+Radfield started Erandorr bandwagon, Erandorr flipped town = Radfield Palmar connected" is bad because it means that if one of Palmar/Radfield gets lynched or vigged or shot or whatever and flips, we'll have this predisposed notion about the other that will be hard to get rid of.

We need to analyze players right now based solely on their actions. Once people start flipping we can consider connections but I strongly doubt it's a good idea to hypothesize possible scum buddies right now.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 19 2011 22:48 GMT
#749
And by "their actions" I mean their behavioral actions alone, disregarding their potential links to other players. I don't actually mean what they literally do, but rather how they do it.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 19 2011 23:00 GMT
#750
sup. Daypost in a few minutes.
wat
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 19 2011 23:01 GMT
#751
Palmar and JeeJee both get a warning for not reaching required activity levels. If they fall below again they will be modkilled.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 19 2011 23:13 GMT
#752
Day 2
Please note that, as always, all stories are complete flavour and do not reflect anything about the actual game. Method of death, however, is consistent with who was responsible for the kill.




The sound of trumpets pierced through the still night, heralding the wake of battle. The forces of Mordor were attacking!

The free peoples of Middle Earth gathered beneath the rallying banner of Gondor. Elves, men, and dwarves stood their ground with stony resolve, surveying the incoming horde of orcs and trolls. Overhead screamed the inhuman voices of the Nazgul riding upon their fellbeasts, striking fear into the hearts of all who heard. A cloud of Eagles rose from the White City to meet them.




Mr. Wiggles stood at attention in the large antechamber, ready to spring where he was needed. Mr. Wiggles glanced cautiously at wherebugsgo seated at the head of the room, his head buried in his hands. The mood of the room was palpable, the tension so sharp it cut through any attempts at conversation.

“I have a message for you to deliver to my Guardsmen,” wherebugsgo suddenly barked, “Go and find the Captain and inform him that I have need of him.”

Mr. Wiggles jumped at the sudden sound, then bowed and hastened to obey. Truth be told, he was glad to leave the presence of wherebugsgo whose mood had been foul far more than fair of late.

Mr. Wiggles ran out of the castle at full sprint and out into the city, hastily seeking out his target. He could faintly hear the sounds of the battle joined outside the walls of the city; strangely, he itched to join them. Foolishness, he knew, for he would hardly be of much use.

So fast he ran that he did not see the stone lying on the street. With a sudden cry, Mr. Wiggles tripped over it, sprawling across the floor. The faint metallic taste of blood filled his mouth; he had bit his tongue in the fall. As Mr. Wiggles gathered himself, a sudden shadow fell over him.

“Lend me a hand up,” he panted as he stretched his hand towards the cloaked figure, “I am on urgent business from -”

He was cut short as the figure planted a foot of jagged steel into his chest with a snarl.

Mr. Wiggles slumped down once more, his vision blurring. It wasn’t supposed to end like this...it wasn’t...




wherebusgo twisted fretfully in his seat. What was keeping Mr. Wiggles so long? He found his mood growing more and more black as he waited, twisting and turning.

“Leave me!” he shouted to the two guards standing beside him. “I would like to be alone.”

As they left, wherebugsgo slumped back with a sigh and returned his head into his hands. Sleep was hard to come by lately with the armies of Mordor at his doorstep. How could they possibly defend against that unstoppable might? The weapon of the Enemy would give them a chance, the legendary Ring. But it was hidden from him, hidden by those he would call allies. Bah! wherebugsgo spat as he thought of those too weak to use the power, too weak to save the White City with the Ring.

“Letting your guards leave was a mistake, my Lord,” hissed a quiet voice beside his ear. Before he could respond, a hand roughly grabbed his hair and he felt steel sliding across his throat.

Gurgling, wherebugsgo fell to the floor, trying uselessly to stem the flow of blood. His last thoughts as he drowned on his own blood were of his wife.




Ciryandor paced anxiously back and forth. A simple person like him, he felt completely out of his element amidst the fierce warriors and brave soldiers around him. Glory, bloodshed, adventure; they were not things Ciryandor wished for. He just wished for home, for its green fields and beautiful landscapes.

Yet he had committed to this quest and he intended to see it through to the end. Out of his element or no, Ciryandor would stay true to his word. He could not abandon his friends, could not sit back and merely watch. Yes he would see this through, to the bitter end.

Unfortunately for him, the bitter end was now. He cried out as steel suddenly erupted through his stomach, twisting through his organs.

As he died, Ciryandor thought of potatoes. A tear rolled down his cheek as he realized he would never be able to taste a potato again.




Erandorr flew high above the city, circling as he surveyed the airborne beasts of the enemy. He noticed one of the fellbeasts separated from the rest of the pack, the Nazgul upon it seemingly searching for something.

Cawing a warcry, Erandorr dove straight at the fellbeast, talons extended. The Nazgul shrieked as it reeled its mount up, meeting him in battle.

Back and forth they fought, neither giving an inch to the other. Finally Erandorr spied an opening; diving in, he raked his talons across the soft eyes of the fellbeast. With an ear-piercing bellow, the beast writhed ferociously as it flailed around in blinded agony. Satisfied, Erandorr disengaged, seeking out his next target.

His next target found him first and devoured him. Om nom nom.




(Erandorr’s post was just to make up for not having one yesterday)
Erandorr as Gwaihir, the Windlord, Town Jailkeeper was lynched day 1!
+ Show Spoiler [Role PM] +
Hello and welcome to Middle Earth.

You are Gwaihir the Windlord, Town Jailkeeper.

[image loading]

Active Ability
To the Roost: Each night phase you may choose a target to carry up to your roost. While in your roost, your target will be unable to take any actions and will be protected from all night kills. You cannot jail the same player two nights in a row.

You win then Evil has been purged from Middle Earth.


Mr. Wiggles as Peregrin Took, Hobbit of the Fellowship, Town Messenger was stabbed through the chest night 1!
+ Show Spoiler [Role PM] +
Hello and welcome to Middle Earth!

You are Peregrin Took, Hobbit of the Fellowship, Town Messenger.

[image loading]

Active Ability
Messenger: Each night phase you may choose a target to communicate with privately over the next day phase. Your target will not be given your identity nor your alignment. You will not be given your target’s role nor alignment. I will provide you with the link to your Quicktopic at the start of the day phase. It is advised that you remain anonymous, posting under an identity not related to your role or name. You may not communicate with your target after the day phase is over unless you target them again.

You win then Evil has been purged from Middle Earth.


wherebugsgo as Denethor, Steward of Gondor, Vanilla Townie Miller had his throat slit night 1!
+ Show Spoiler [Role PM] +
Hello and welcome to Middle Earth!

You are Denethor, Steward of Gondor, Vanilla Townie.

[image loading]

Unfortunately you have only your voice and your vote.

You win then Evil has been purged from Middle Earth.


Ciryandor as Samwise Gamgee, Town Mason Bodyguard was put to the sword night 1!
+ Show Spoiler [Role PM] +
Hello and welcome to Middle Earth!

You are Samwise Gamgee, Town Mason Bodyguard.

[image loading]

Passive Abilities

Mister Frodo: You are Frodo’s closest and most faithful companion and you know for sure that mister Frodo only has the Town’s best intentions at heart. You and REDACTED, Frodo Baggins are Masons together and may communicate privately via PMs, Quicktopic, etc. You are both mod confirmed to each other to be Town.

Faithful Sam: You would never let harm befall mister Frodo! As long as you are alive, all KP aimed at [REDACTED] will instead find its way to you.

You win when Evil has been purged from Middle Earth.


Day 2 Begins! Day 2 will end on Wednesday, Sep 21 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
wat
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
September 19 2011 23:13 GMT
#753
My apologies. I honestly did mean to post this evening right before the deadline, but one thing lead to another and I only just got home about four minutes ago. Won't happen again.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
September 19 2011 23:15 GMT
#754


gg, Good luck, town.
you gotta dance
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 19 2011 23:17 GMT
#755
Told you WBG was lying about his golum claim >.<
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 19 2011 23:17 GMT
#756
I's sorry about my inactivity for a day. I was @ LAN and I couldn't know the internet would be cut down there @ sunday. Then i got home and was too tired to get my gear up, so i couldn't post before the lynch.

@ Sandroba: I didn't even think i had a "case" against prplhz. He chit-chatted about the ring, and when i put up some pressure vote against him (after a proposition that was imo bad), he responded something about my total postcount in TL forums. I actually found that as an insult. Like this:

On September 18 2011 06:15 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My vote is on prplhz, at least now. Let's c if anything new comes up before day ends.

##vote prplhz


wow what a 100th post i'm so blown away i want to vote for me too now



My suspicions went up.

Then he came up with a post against DrH (which was actually pretty good, now that i read it again in a different mindset).

(actually this is the last post i've seen him post before i was off internet)

I was never even sure my vote would stay on him, at least if I was there like ~2before voting ends. Not becouse of prplhz's posts, but becouse of other ppl's posts. I clearly see what did you mean there. I just couldn't get online earlier.

On September 19 2011 15:10 sandroba wrote:
This rayn guy looks terrible aswell, do you have any previous games I can skim through?


And yes. I am terrible. And No, i havn't played any games before, so no skimming trough sry. :/
_____________________________________

For the Errandor case. I would have never switched my vote to him. I think mafia got an easy "out-of-nowhere-target" becouse of his "lie". But if you think about it. Was he lying? About the edited post:

On September 19 2011 06:24 Erandorr wrote:
wrong thread -.- sorry

On September 19 2011 06:24 Erandorr wrote:
oh shit i thought this was the voting thread
crap :/


I think he thought he posted in the voting thread (cos Mig's votecount is couple posts up), and then by some reason edited it. He even stated it later on. Where was he lying?

prplhz's vote on him is obviously well reasoned. He didn't want to get lynched himself. I think we should look after some other ppl who voted him at day 2.

Also we should look around ppl who voted prplhz, cos there we find scum for sure (somebody mentioned it before right?).

______________________________________

I also agree that all the lynch targets day 1 were awful.

Day 2 my suspicions are on DrH and Chaoser, maybe some other ppl too. Let's get to that when I'm back from work (smth about 18:00 CET, that would be 17 hour from now).
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
September 19 2011 23:18 GMT
#757
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
September 19 2011 23:19 GMT
#758
Woe is my life as I have been shot. Thankfully I am not dead. Don't worry though shooter, I have your bullet and I hope to return the favor. I always repay my debts.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 23:30:59
September 19 2011 23:19 GMT
#759
A message has been delivered to all within the realm!

The message reads:


Fdehfq ht Ytxm
wat
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 19 2011 23:21 GMT
#760
And btw that post was about to go up before the daypost, but then i realized that the day post was just about to come up, and waited for it.
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