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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 24 2011 22:58 GMT
#741
LSB: Storytime! Why Annul was an easy read in XXXV
1) He mad up stuff and pushed stuff that didn't exist
Check, this game he's pushing GMarshal, saying GMarshal is clear mafia, although there is literally nothing in his accusation
2) Besides responses, he posted nothing else
Look at Annul's posts. How many of his posts deal with things other than Gmarshal or defending himself? I can't find any.


Looked over Annul's posts:
1) He posts are generally short and don't have much content to them. I do find Annul saying Gmarshall is mafia based only on his circle thing is not convincing.

2) This is the part I disagree. Annul did what most people will do in this situation. He attacked someone whom he believe is mafia and defended himself when he was in huge danger of being lynched. If he didn't go after someone, ok... since not everyone got a mafia read on day1. And his defense on himself is normal behavior.

To determine if he is really mafia, you have to look at the time when he felt pressured and tried to redirect the lynch to another person (Gmarshall in this case) and if there are any support from others. People did pointed out Gmarshall's circle thing is a horrible idea but no one voted for him after Annul's switch.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 24 2011 23:03 GMT
#742
##Vote Annul

I'm not entirely convinced he is scum, and this vote may change before the deadline. As it is though, lynching annul will clear up the thread a bit and make it easier to find scum.

I honestly think between GMarshal and Gryf, one is probably scum. I'm suspicious of both right now, gryf for pushing bad ideas and being wishy-washy, and GMarshal for the timing of his analysis on annul.
you gotta dance
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 24 2011 23:09 GMT
#743
ANNUL, can you response to some critical posts toward you and don't use one liner responses because one liner responses are hard to read alignment.
kevconsim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
February 24 2011 23:27 GMT
#744
##Unvote

Vote Annul

I feel like either iceman or Annul are good choices and i think that Annul is being to agressive right now and i dont like that.
Just to let you know that if you read really slow that you are in fact reading this beautifully written quote you will have totally wasted like 10 seconds of your life.
Beneather
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada451 Posts
February 24 2011 23:33 GMT
#745
On February 25 2011 08:27 kevconsim wrote:
##Unvote

Vote Annul

I feel like either iceman or Annul are good choices and i think that Annul is being to agressive right now and i dont like that.


You don't like aggressive players :O! So like do you want everyone to be all lovey dovey and not attack or try to put a FoS on somebody you want everyone to do NOTHING?! I have not heard anything from you but bandwagoning... No but like you've posted absolutely nothing not even a reason for your vote. Can we atleast get an explanation why you don't like annul's aggressiveness?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Day[9} <3
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 24 2011 23:55 GMT
#746
##vote: Kenpachi
im busy today sorry
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
kevconsim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
February 25 2011 00:03 GMT
#747
If you have read the thread i have discussed why i think Iceman is a good choice.

Annul's posts a lot and he doesnt say much while trying to defend himself.
I feel he is the best choice.

I think it is funny that you are asking me questions about bandwagoning when you are bandwagoning.

I have been inactive I really do not know who to vote for so I guess I am going to bandwagon on Icemac.
Just to let you know that if you read really slow that you are in fact reading this beautifully written quote you will have totally wasted like 10 seconds of your life.
Beneather
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada451 Posts
February 25 2011 00:05 GMT
#748
On February 25 2011 09:03 kevconsim wrote:
If you have read the thread i have discussed why i think Iceman is a good choice.

Annul's posts a lot and he doesnt say much while trying to defend himself.
I feel he is the best choice.

I think it is funny that you are asking me questions about bandwagoning when you are bandwagoning.
Show nested quote +

I have been inactive I really do not know who to vote for so I guess I am going to bandwagon on Icemac.


I was just asking why you were voting for him.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Day[9} <3
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 25 2011 00:15 GMT
#749
If you don't think Annul is scum don't vote for him. Vote off Gryffindors sarcasm.
Life can only kill you once.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
February 25 2011 00:16 GMT
#750
i was afk

what do you want me to say? i think the die is cast, and either way its a bad outcome. town won't listen to me.

Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 25 2011 00:17 GMT
#751
role claim annul
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 25 2011 00:18 GMT
#752
Town has no ears.
Life can only kill you once.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 25 2011 00:19 GMT
#753
On February 25 2011 07:36 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 05:08 Barundar wrote:
On February 25 2011 04:32 LSB wrote:
On February 25 2011 03:25 Barundar wrote:
On February 25 2011 03:08 LSB wrote:
On February 24 2011 19:39 Jackal58 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 24 2011 18:33 Barundar wrote:
Morning all, as promised I’ve read up and here is my contribution. As a fair warning it’s a wall of text, first is my general comments on the thread so far, last is my analysis.

First off, goddammit GMarshal, leaking my top suspect. Can’t you hold it in for 1 night? I wanted to see if he would actually post in the evening as he promised, but the weak FoS gave him a chance to defend himself before I got around to post. Well, at least it proved that Jackal58 has great reaction time, despite not talking much.

My thoughts on the thread so far:
GMarshals plan is a lot like what RoL has recommended for PM’s, pick out some random people from the list and start talking to them. While you can’t trust them, you get more to analyse, and it’s easier to catch a mafia slipping up if you have more opinions from them. Just be careful with experienced players, and treat your partners like they are scum. If I was on a scumteam, I would tell my inexperienced teammates to stay out of PM land.

Gryffindor proposes a really silly (in lack of a better word) plan, there is no way of finding guaranteed innocents with GF and framer around, and even if one such could be found, all mafia has to do is gain his trust and make him spill, =dead blues. The only benefit of mass claim to a confirmed townie is the coordination of medic protection and DT checks. It won’t magicly find mafia amongst the non claimers, or identify fake claims.

What gryffindor does do is post a lot, he promotes activity, and he is actually scumhunting. I don’t give much for his lists, but so far his impact has been positive on the town, as long as people don’t stop thinking for themselves.

Regarding annul, you should keep in mind that he opposed GMarshals plan before he (allegedly) got his role PM. Hence I would be very careful with lynching him just for opposing that alone. Other than that agree with Foolishness’ comment, it would be funny if LSB got revenge on annul.

Why has a decent case on icemac, but not certain if icemac is aggressive townie or mafia.

Analysis of Jackal58
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On February 24 2011 00:47 Jackal58 wrote:
Good day fellow scum hunters. Sorry for the late start but I bowl on Tuesday night.
There are quite a few people in this game that I have never seen before so it's going to take me a bit to wrap my head around everything everybody has said so far.

My thoughts on cells:
Thoroughly undecided. If their only reason for being is analysis keep it in the thread.

I'm at work right now so I might not be able to post as much as I'd like, but I'll be in here this evening.

gryffindor why on earth would you claim vet? I did it in XXXVI to avoid being lynched but man that was pointless. You're making the hair on the back of my neck stand up.


This post is COMPLETELY out of the ordinary for Jackal.

Jackal’s playstyle as town consist of independent opinions, with a tendency to tunnel. His posting style is stubborn and humorous. He rarely posts long posts, and in general just give short statements, but often posts a lot. When he finds scum, he will make it clear for everyone, state his reasons, and keep up pressure on the person. Being stubborn he is very difficult to convince otherwise, once he has found his target(s).

In the above post he differs from his usual play as town in a number of ways.
Show nested quote +
Sorry for the late start but I…
Show nested quote +
… so it's going to take me a bit to wrap my head around everything everybody has said so far.
Show nested quote +
…so I might not be able to post as much as I'd like…

First of all he gives multiple excuses as to his posting straight away. This is unlike his other games, even in his first game in mafia xxxv he didn’t feel the need to excuse his inexperience without being called out for it. As I said above, Jackal is an independent player, he doesn’t care much if people accuse him, town yells at him or if the things he sais comes off in the wrong way. Him apologising like this upfront, without anyone even calling him out is unusual.

If you a read Ver’s guide to improving at mafia, it’s not natural for a green mindset to apologise and appear useless, since it will make other players pay less attention to what they have to say. It is however entirely within the mindset of a mafia, who just want to make a post noone cares about, and let the town fight with itself instead.

He apologies for posting less, but in normal games his many first posts are just one liners, this one is a lengthy one for him. By sheer size it should be an improvement for him, but what does it really contain?
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My thoughts on cells:
Thoroughly undecided. If their only reason for being is analysis keep it in the thread.

His thoughts are thoroughly undecided. Why even comment then? If this is the reason he felt the need to add to the conversation, then I sincerely expected more. Jackal as town has very strong opinions, and this is just neutral mentioning – he doesn’t improve the plan, he just questions it. Posting without contributing.

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gryffindor why on earth would you claim vet? I did it in XXXVI to avoid being lynched but man that was pointless. You're making the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

A weak FoS with a relevant question. On one hand it is sort of an opinion, on the other hand it has been posted before. In Guts and Glory he simply quoted Amber[light]’s post and commented “this post ems of scummyness”. Weak FoS isn’t typical Jackal, even if I wouldn’t rule it out. It’s not much to warrant a post like that from him though.

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I'm at work right now so I might not be able to post as much as I'd like, but I'll be in here this evening.

He promises to post more in the evening. I was holding this analysis back to see if he actually would. As I said in the beginning, this got ruined, but he didn’t post until he got mentioned, and it still proved his reaction time was good. Note that Jackal has been posting from work in his other games, and it hasn’t stopped him from being active.

Other suspicious post:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 01:56 Jackal58 wrote:
I have received a PM from GMarshall as well. Whoopee. I will probably even answer him.
But posting quotes and copies of PMs is a very scummy thing to do. You can make them say anything. Please stop.

Sharp reaction to getting PM’ed. Jackal had no problem PM’ing with me in mafia xxxv.

##Vote Jackal58

Actually my style is identical to every other game I've played. Not one of them has me aggressively tunneling anybody in the first day or two. I don't do that until I get a line on somebody.

I'm going to have too agree with Jacakl here, Barundar you are reading too much in one post. Sure, it might be useful in RL mafia trying to pick off tells on how people are phrasing things, but in online mafia, it's a whole different game.
For example, my first post was apologizing that I wouldn't be active, and I'm town. It's not like that apologizing is necessarily a bad thing.

Perhaps I am reading too much into one post. But he isn't doing much to prove me wrong. He puts a nice OMGUS on me, states that I'm part of a scumteam, and then does nothing to scumhunt against me or point out why I would be mafia. He is acting inconsistent with his own scumlist.

Problem isn't that he excused himself. Problem is he held an apologetic tone without contributing much. It makes his post suspecious, and I find it interesting that you don't think it is the least suspecious.

Now he has shown some agression that can be hard to fake, and is quite typical for him. But he is by no means clear of suspecion just beceause he posts an OMGUS list.

I don't find him suspicions because that's how he plays. Jackel58 is known to post an OMGUS list with little/no explanation, but he is scary accurate on the scum. Look at Guts and Glory. Jackel didn't really do much in the game but name 4 people. Of the 4 people, 3 were scum.
If we are going to lynch Jackal, it can't just because of a "maybe" or a "tell". I want proof.

Lol when did Jackal become gods gift to scumhunt? He sheeped after Coag onto GGQ in that game, messing up the Amber lynch. He also had me pegged as mafia in a post. In mini mafia V he tunneled pandain so hard he nearly lost the game for town alone.

I wrote Jackal's playstyle into my post. I don't see you disagreeing with what I wrote there? I also explained why his first post differed from that.

What I am saying is that Jackal wrote two kinds of posts this game. The first is just an apology that he's going to be busy. This is very standard. And the second is his normal fair, not explaining much.

The problem is your argument is this.
1) Jackal isn't posting as usual, so he must be mafia
2) Jackal is posting as usual, so he must be mafia.

You are going to have to pick one of the two. You can't argue both.

As for Jackal58 having good hunches, iirc he wasn't too far off the mark in midgame XXXVI

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But you want "proof". Can you hand me the proof for annul so I can vote him then?

Look to the post I just did

Yeah I'm looking at it.
He's insisting that we lynch GM. Why? Oh, because of his sudden ascertain that town circles are 'ainti-town' for no reason http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=191888&currentpage=30#581

I fully expected to be linked to an increminating post of his, but instead I got linked to your post, where his reasons are actually listed and you disagreeing with him.

Storytime! Why Annul was an easy read in XXXV
1) He mad up stuff and pushed stuff that didn't exist
Check, this game he's pushing GMarshal, saying GMarshal is clear mafia, although there is literally nothing in his accusation
2) Besides responses, he posted nothing else
Look at Annul's posts. How many of his posts deal with things other than Gmarshal or defending himself? I can't find any.

A storytime? Thats your example of proof?

I see a weak case, and absolutely no opposition to lynching annul, despite him being far ahead, and noone really taking responsability for pushing it. Weak case and no opposition=townie from my experience. There is not even a serius alternative at this point.
Bartundar
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
February 25 2011 00:21 GMT
#754
On February 25 2011 09:17 Coagulation wrote:
role claim annul


obviously not

if i flip its irrelevant, if i dont then claiming is retarded
Ser Aspi
Profile Joined January 2010
France84 Posts
February 25 2011 00:21 GMT
#755
On February 25 2011 08:03 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
##Vote Annul

I'm not entirely convinced he is scum, and this vote may change before the deadline. As it is though, lynching annul will clear up the thread a bit and make it easier to find scum.

I honestly think between GMarshal and Gryf, one is probably scum. I'm suspicious of both right now, gryf for pushing bad ideas and being wishy-washy, and GMarshal for the timing of his analysis on annul.


how nice of you to pop up with this laughably confused post. "not entirely convinced" about annul, huh? Well of ur 10 in game posts (lets compare this to 30 pre-game spam posts now) ur whole agenda has been subtly pushing doubt on aggressive people in general, then proceeding to softly cast doubt on annul. Then you quote gryffindor when he connects annul to GMarshal without adding any insight. What the heck are you trying to do here? Combined with the above quoted post, this is absolutely scummy. If you think one of GMarshal/gryf is scum, why aren't you voting for them? If gryf connected GMarshall and annul, why do you NOT have annul in your "probably scum" pile? if you think lynching annul will clear up the thread, why not vote for gryffindor, who fits both categories of a) spamming up the thread, and b) you think is "probably scum"? Your logic reaks of scum. Burn the witch.

##Unvote
Vote## Mr. Wiggles
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 25 2011 00:23 GMT
#756
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 25 2011 09:19 Barundar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 07:36 LSB wrote:
On February 25 2011 05:08 Barundar wrote:
On February 25 2011 04:32 LSB wrote:
On February 25 2011 03:25 Barundar wrote:
On February 25 2011 03:08 LSB wrote:
On February 24 2011 19:39 Jackal58 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 24 2011 18:33 Barundar wrote:
Morning all, as promised I’ve read up and here is my contribution. As a fair warning it’s a wall of text, first is my general comments on the thread so far, last is my analysis.

First off, goddammit GMarshal, leaking my top suspect. Can’t you hold it in for 1 night? I wanted to see if he would actually post in the evening as he promised, but the weak FoS gave him a chance to defend himself before I got around to post. Well, at least it proved that Jackal58 has great reaction time, despite not talking much.

My thoughts on the thread so far:
GMarshals plan is a lot like what RoL has recommended for PM’s, pick out some random people from the list and start talking to them. While you can’t trust them, you get more to analyse, and it’s easier to catch a mafia slipping up if you have more opinions from them. Just be careful with experienced players, and treat your partners like they are scum. If I was on a scumteam, I would tell my inexperienced teammates to stay out of PM land.

Gryffindor proposes a really silly (in lack of a better word) plan, there is no way of finding guaranteed innocents with GF and framer around, and even if one such could be found, all mafia has to do is gain his trust and make him spill, =dead blues. The only benefit of mass claim to a confirmed townie is the coordination of medic protection and DT checks. It won’t magicly find mafia amongst the non claimers, or identify fake claims.

What gryffindor does do is post a lot, he promotes activity, and he is actually scumhunting. I don’t give much for his lists, but so far his impact has been positive on the town, as long as people don’t stop thinking for themselves.

Regarding annul, you should keep in mind that he opposed GMarshals plan before he (allegedly) got his role PM. Hence I would be very careful with lynching him just for opposing that alone. Other than that agree with Foolishness’ comment, it would be funny if LSB got revenge on annul.

Why has a decent case on icemac, but not certain if icemac is aggressive townie or mafia.

Analysis of Jackal58
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 00:47 Jackal58 wrote:
Good day fellow scum hunters. Sorry for the late start but I bowl on Tuesday night.
There are quite a few people in this game that I have never seen before so it's going to take me a bit to wrap my head around everything everybody has said so far.

My thoughts on cells:
Thoroughly undecided. If their only reason for being is analysis keep it in the thread.

I'm at work right now so I might not be able to post as much as I'd like, but I'll be in here this evening.

gryffindor why on earth would you claim vet? I did it in XXXVI to avoid being lynched but man that was pointless. You're making the hair on the back of my neck stand up.


This post is COMPLETELY out of the ordinary for Jackal.

Jackal’s playstyle as town consist of independent opinions, with a tendency to tunnel. His posting style is stubborn and humorous. He rarely posts long posts, and in general just give short statements, but often posts a lot. When he finds scum, he will make it clear for everyone, state his reasons, and keep up pressure on the person. Being stubborn he is very difficult to convince otherwise, once he has found his target(s).

In the above post he differs from his usual play as town in a number of ways.
Show nested quote +
Sorry for the late start but I…
Show nested quote +
… so it's going to take me a bit to wrap my head around everything everybody has said so far.
Show nested quote +
…so I might not be able to post as much as I'd like…

First of all he gives multiple excuses as to his posting straight away. This is unlike his other games, even in his first game in mafia xxxv he didn’t feel the need to excuse his inexperience without being called out for it. As I said above, Jackal is an independent player, he doesn’t care much if people accuse him, town yells at him or if the things he sais comes off in the wrong way. Him apologising like this upfront, without anyone even calling him out is unusual.

If you a read Ver’s guide to improving at mafia, it’s not natural for a green mindset to apologise and appear useless, since it will make other players pay less attention to what they have to say. It is however entirely within the mindset of a mafia, who just want to make a post noone cares about, and let the town fight with itself instead.

He apologies for posting less, but in normal games his many first posts are just one liners, this one is a lengthy one for him. By sheer size it should be an improvement for him, but what does it really contain?
Show nested quote +
My thoughts on cells:
Thoroughly undecided. If their only reason for being is analysis keep it in the thread.

His thoughts are thoroughly undecided. Why even comment then? If this is the reason he felt the need to add to the conversation, then I sincerely expected more. Jackal as town has very strong opinions, and this is just neutral mentioning – he doesn’t improve the plan, he just questions it. Posting without contributing.

Show nested quote +
gryffindor why on earth would you claim vet? I did it in XXXVI to avoid being lynched but man that was pointless. You're making the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

A weak FoS with a relevant question. On one hand it is sort of an opinion, on the other hand it has been posted before. In Guts and Glory he simply quoted Amber[light]’s post and commented “this post ems of scummyness”. Weak FoS isn’t typical Jackal, even if I wouldn’t rule it out. It’s not much to warrant a post like that from him though.

Show nested quote +
I'm at work right now so I might not be able to post as much as I'd like, but I'll be in here this evening.

He promises to post more in the evening. I was holding this analysis back to see if he actually would. As I said in the beginning, this got ruined, but he didn’t post until he got mentioned, and it still proved his reaction time was good. Note that Jackal has been posting from work in his other games, and it hasn’t stopped him from being active.

Other suspicious post:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 01:56 Jackal58 wrote:
I have received a PM from GMarshall as well. Whoopee. I will probably even answer him.
But posting quotes and copies of PMs is a very scummy thing to do. You can make them say anything. Please stop.

Sharp reaction to getting PM’ed. Jackal had no problem PM’ing with me in mafia xxxv.

##Vote Jackal58

Actually my style is identical to every other game I've played. Not one of them has me aggressively tunneling anybody in the first day or two. I don't do that until I get a line on somebody.

I'm going to have too agree with Jacakl here, Barundar you are reading too much in one post. Sure, it might be useful in RL mafia trying to pick off tells on how people are phrasing things, but in online mafia, it's a whole different game.
For example, my first post was apologizing that I wouldn't be active, and I'm town. It's not like that apologizing is necessarily a bad thing.

Perhaps I am reading too much into one post. But he isn't doing much to prove me wrong. He puts a nice OMGUS on me, states that I'm part of a scumteam, and then does nothing to scumhunt against me or point out why I would be mafia. He is acting inconsistent with his own scumlist.

Problem isn't that he excused himself. Problem is he held an apologetic tone without contributing much. It makes his post suspecious, and I find it interesting that you don't think it is the least suspecious.

Now he has shown some agression that can be hard to fake, and is quite typical for him. But he is by no means clear of suspecion just beceause he posts an OMGUS list.

I don't find him suspicions because that's how he plays. Jackel58 is known to post an OMGUS list with little/no explanation, but he is scary accurate on the scum. Look at Guts and Glory. Jackel didn't really do much in the game but name 4 people. Of the 4 people, 3 were scum.
If we are going to lynch Jackal, it can't just because of a "maybe" or a "tell". I want proof.

Lol when did Jackal become gods gift to scumhunt? He sheeped after Coag onto GGQ in that game, messing up the Amber lynch. He also had me pegged as mafia in a post. In mini mafia V he tunneled pandain so hard he nearly lost the game for town alone.

I wrote Jackal's playstyle into my post. I don't see you disagreeing with what I wrote there? I also explained why his first post differed from that.

What I am saying is that Jackal wrote two kinds of posts this game. The first is just an apology that he's going to be busy. This is very standard. And the second is his normal fair, not explaining much.

The problem is your argument is this.
1) Jackal isn't posting as usual, so he must be mafia
2) Jackal is posting as usual, so he must be mafia.

You are going to have to pick one of the two. You can't argue both.

As for Jackal58 having good hunches, iirc he wasn't too far off the mark in midgame XXXVI

But you want "proof". Can you hand me the proof for annul so I can vote him then?

Look to the post I just did

Yeah I'm looking at it.
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He's insisting that we lynch GM. Why? Oh, because of his sudden ascertain that town circles are 'ainti-town' for no reason http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=191888&currentpage=30#581

I fully expected to be linked to an increminating post of his, but instead I got linked to your post, where his reasons are actually listed and you disagreeing with him.

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Storytime! Why Annul was an easy read in XXXV
1) He mad up stuff and pushed stuff that didn't exist
Check, this game he's pushing GMarshal, saying GMarshal is clear mafia, although there is literally nothing in his accusation
2) Besides responses, he posted nothing else
Look at Annul's posts. How many of his posts deal with things other than Gmarshal or defending himself? I can't find any.

A storytime? Thats your example of proof?

I see a weak case, and absolutely no opposition to lynching annul, despite him being far ahead, and noone really taking responsability for pushing it. Weak case and no opposition=townie from my experience. There is not even a serius alternative at this point.

Of course there is an alternative. Grffandor. He lied. His first post was "I'm Veteran claim to me"
He's nuts and a liar. Either way he flips it's a plus for town.
Life can only kill you once.
RLTY
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States965 Posts
February 25 2011 00:24 GMT
#757
On February 25 2011 09:21 Ser Aspi wrote:
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On February 25 2011 08:03 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
##Vote Annul

I'm not entirely convinced he is scum, and this vote may change before the deadline. As it is though, lynching annul will clear up the thread a bit and make it easier to find scum.

I honestly think between GMarshal and Gryf, one is probably scum. I'm suspicious of both right now, gryf for pushing bad ideas and being wishy-washy, and GMarshal for the timing of his analysis on annul.


how nice of you to pop up with this laughably confused post. "not entirely convinced" about annul, huh? Well of ur 10 in game posts (lets compare this to 30 pre-game spam posts now) ur whole agenda has been subtly pushing doubt on aggressive people in general, then proceeding to softly cast doubt on annul. Then you quote gryffindor when he connects annul to GMarshal without adding any insight. What the heck are you trying to do here? Combined with the above quoted post, this is absolutely scummy. If you think one of GMarshal/gryf is scum, why aren't you voting for them? If gryf connected GMarshall and annul, why do you NOT have annul in your "probably scum" pile? if you think lynching annul will clear up the thread, why not vote for gryffindor, who fits both categories of a) spamming up the thread, and b) you think is "probably scum"? Your logic reaks of scum. Burn the witch.

##Unvote
Vote## Mr. Wiggles

I like. Also, I hate how me and annul are cast with 100% of the blame for just being active holy shit. I think Ser Aspi is got something here.
##Unvote
Vote## Mr. Wiggles
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 25 2011 01:00 GMT
#758
2 hours til lynch and you guys all shut up. Wtf.
Life can only kill you once.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
February 25 2011 01:04 GMT
#759
i'm here, F5ing occasionally, playing L4D2.

i can't really say anything since it will just be 'OMFG ANNUL IS SO AGGRESSIVE' if i do anything more, so i'll just stay AFK until we see the final vote.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
February 25 2011 01:12 GMT
#760
Taking vote off of annul; purposed served.

##unvote annul
##vote seraph
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
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