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~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
December 29 2010 23:04 GMT
#721
On December 29 2010 12:36 seRapH wrote:
Just finished catching up -_-'' didn't expect to be out all day.

I still don't see why LSB was scummy at all. I mean look at annul's "analysis":
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7419308
  1. Takes a bunch of meaningless jokes & spam and looks at them with serious face :|
  2. Basically tells us that talking about lynching inactives is anti-town. What?! So you'd rather have us ignore the inactivity problem altogether and lynch someone who's actually fighting it?
  3. So apparantly providing pure information is now scummy. How is this ANY worse than the numerous lurkers lying around? And at least his "information" is helping the newbies!

Seriously the whole inactive thing was just a talking point, and now I'm just thoroughly convinced that you're almost certainly a very closed-minded townie or scum. Hopefully the blue actions will yield something good so we won't have to waste a lynch on you though.

+ Show Spoiler +
Oh hey I just mentioned blues again, I'm probably blue/scum right?

Did you see RoL's post calling you scum? I would guess with all the talk about it, you would have checked it....
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
December 29 2010 23:04 GMT
#722
On December 30 2010 08:04 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 12:36 seRapH wrote:
Just finished catching up -_-'' didn't expect to be out all day.

I still don't see why LSB was scummy at all. I mean look at annul's "analysis":
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7419308
  1. Takes a bunch of meaningless jokes & spam and looks at them with serious face :|
  2. Basically tells us that talking about lynching inactives is anti-town. What?! So you'd rather have us ignore the inactivity problem altogether and lynch someone who's actually fighting it?
  3. So apparantly providing pure information is now scummy. How is this ANY worse than the numerous lurkers lying around? And at least his "information" is helping the newbies!

Seriously the whole inactive thing was just a talking point, and now I'm just thoroughly convinced that you're almost certainly a very closed-minded townie or scum. Hopefully the blue actions will yield something good so we won't have to waste a lynch on you though.

+ Show Spoiler +
Oh hey I just mentioned blues again, I'm probably blue/scum right?

Did you see RoL's post calling you scum? I would guess with all the talk about it, you would have checked it....

fml, I missed a page.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
December 29 2010 23:23 GMT
#723
I'll post more when night ends. But I agree with RoL's analysis of some people. Pandain's however...strikes me as really odd seeing how it is almost the EXACT opposite of what RoL is trying to say.
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
December 29 2010 23:33 GMT
#724
On December 30 2010 07:02 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Alright, so hatters ignore this tree hugger guy. On top of that I have justified my suspicions. But just for you I will do it again.

Seraph play is characterized by indecision and feigned activity. On top of that all he ever really talked about was pointless shit and kept trying to push stupid shit like lynching inactives. I have an analysis on him on Page 25 if you would like to read it.

Insanious during the hours before the lynch of LSB tried bandwagoning the shit out of brockit claiming he "knew" LSB was blue and how stupid we were being. The analysis on him although much shorter is a few pages back on 32 iirc. No one should EVER be so sure that someone is blue. On top of just being sure he NEVER gave a good reason to want to switch which leads me to believe his intention was never to actually switch the vote, but to make it APPEAR that he wanted to switch the vote away from someone who was blue. On top of that, even though he seriously didn't want to lynch LSB he ignored my Seraph analysis which if he used that might of switched the lynch away from LSB. I believe the reason he didn't use the Seraph analysis was because Seraph is his mafia buddy AND he had no true intention to divert the lynch. You can see similar play being used by me and Insane Mafia in regards to dealing with pandain. I actively pushed for pandains lynch but never hard enough to actually change anything. He just did it a lot more shitty.

When it comes to Annul, I was really trying to find another candidate who I could put up as a MH bomb because when I divide the player list by 3 instead of 2 it GREATLY reduces the chance of overlapping bombs. On top of that the way Annul got support is a little fishy, I need to do more analysis on it but it is still extremely strange. The bandwagon IMO should never have been so lopsided in favor of LSB even though I think LSB was suspicious, it is really hard to gather a following on a day 1 lynch UNLESS you are mafia. With that justification and an indepth analysis of Annul being very time consuming at the moment I would prefer to put a bomb on him while doing a further analysis later.

I hope that meets your approval for my justification.

No need to get testy, that's all I'm looking for.

MH bombs shouldn't be directed by anyone else, because that's too easy for mafia to manipulate. If we left it up to the town or random people with plans to determine where the bombs went, then they'd land on townies every single time. MH needs to use their own judgment because your direction, or anyone else's is open to mafia interference. Also, if the mafia looked at your list, and knew that none of them were threatened, then that would relieve a large load from their shoulders, and clear the path for blue sniping.
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
December 30 2010 00:02 GMT
#725
I actually agree with pandain, ROL and Dr.H are 2 people to keep an eye on.

ROL trying to direct the bombs is just totally and outright scummy. Nothing more to it.

Dr. H is just off this game. He isn't playing like he usually does. He was a bit like this in harry potter maf (where he was Godfather)


I don't think annul is maf, but he deserves to be lynched. That tunnelling was just facepalmingly stupid.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 30 2010 01:47 GMT
#726
Night should be over soon no?
Life can only kill you once.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 30 2010 01:50 GMT
#727
Another hour I believe
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
December 30 2010 02:06 GMT
#728
If you have not yet done so you have 55 minutes to submit your night actions.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 30 2010 02:07 GMT
#729
I think it would have been better for LSB to claim green or DT if he was going to lie like that. Oh well, it tells us lots of things, but I regret voting him. I will be keeping my eyes on the votes for what I can piece together. DONT MIND ME MAFIA. Plus I dont think suggesting bomb targets is a bad idea if we dont assume that all the hatters are robots.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
December 30 2010 02:09 GMT
#730
On December 30 2010 11:07 bumatlarge wrote:
I think it would have been better for LSB to claim green or DT if he was going to lie like that. Oh well, it tells us lots of things, but I regret voting him. I will be keeping my eyes on the votes for what I can piece together. DONT MIND ME MAFIA. Plus I dont think suggesting bomb targets is a bad idea if we dont assume that all the hatters are robots.

LSB didn't lie at all, what lie? He claimed blue, and that he could prove it after night 2... which he could, what lies did he tell?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 30 2010 02:10 GMT
#731
Oh... why was everyone going on about him being a vigilante? Guess I should have read more into that. Now I have to go look back and see where this misinformation is coming from... -_-
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
December 30 2010 02:12 GMT
#732
On December 30 2010 11:10 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh... why was everyone going on about him being a vigilante? Guess I should have read more into that. Now I have to go look back and see where this misinformation is coming from... -_-

He said he was blue and could prove it after night 2. People just assumed he was vig or DT... people assumed a lot of things that got him killed .
If you want to help me out... http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4b82744b816d3
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 30 2010 02:16 GMT
#733
On December 29 2010 05:07 Pandain wrote:
LSB is either vigi or Scum. I'm leaning towards scum. I think there's a 90% chance he is scum, and even if we lose a vigi, it's not like its game over. If he was a DT I would rethink it, but plainly I think I'm confident enough to lynch him despite his blue claim. From his very early blue claim to his pms with me, LSB has been playing very scummy and out of his norm. From super defensiveness and counter aggresion on Annul, to nitpicking at small details when debating, and making contradictions left and right, I feel confident that LSB is scum.


Tut tut pandain, looking through the previous mentions of vigs, the only time LSB being vig is mentioned is when he says being able to prove himself "night 2" I guess you take that as a slip and presume that hes vig from this. Annul never calls him out on this facet of being either vig or scum.

I only have to scold myself for not looking into this sooner. I'll be putting my vote on pandain for the day 2 lynch, and I'll be hard-pressed to take it off if there is a lack of better information.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
December 30 2010 02:27 GMT
#734
On December 30 2010 08:33 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 07:02 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Alright, so hatters ignore this tree hugger guy. On top of that I have justified my suspicions. But just for you I will do it again.

Seraph play is characterized by indecision and feigned activity. On top of that all he ever really talked about was pointless shit and kept trying to push stupid shit like lynching inactives. I have an analysis on him on Page 25 if you would like to read it.

Insanious during the hours before the lynch of LSB tried bandwagoning the shit out of brockit claiming he "knew" LSB was blue and how stupid we were being. The analysis on him although much shorter is a few pages back on 32 iirc. No one should EVER be so sure that someone is blue. On top of just being sure he NEVER gave a good reason to want to switch which leads me to believe his intention was never to actually switch the vote, but to make it APPEAR that he wanted to switch the vote away from someone who was blue. On top of that, even though he seriously didn't want to lynch LSB he ignored my Seraph analysis which if he used that might of switched the lynch away from LSB. I believe the reason he didn't use the Seraph analysis was because Seraph is his mafia buddy AND he had no true intention to divert the lynch. You can see similar play being used by me and Insane Mafia in regards to dealing with pandain. I actively pushed for pandains lynch but never hard enough to actually change anything. He just did it a lot more shitty.

When it comes to Annul, I was really trying to find another candidate who I could put up as a MH bomb because when I divide the player list by 3 instead of 2 it GREATLY reduces the chance of overlapping bombs. On top of that the way Annul got support is a little fishy, I need to do more analysis on it but it is still extremely strange. The bandwagon IMO should never have been so lopsided in favor of LSB even though I think LSB was suspicious, it is really hard to gather a following on a day 1 lynch UNLESS you are mafia. With that justification and an indepth analysis of Annul being very time consuming at the moment I would prefer to put a bomb on him while doing a further analysis later.

I hope that meets your approval for my justification.

No need to get testy, that's all I'm looking for.

MH bombs shouldn't be directed by anyone else, because that's too easy for mafia to manipulate. If we left it up to the town or random people with plans to determine where the bombs went, then they'd land on townies every single time. MH needs to use their own judgment because your direction, or anyone else's is open to mafia interference. Also, if the mafia looked at your list, and knew that none of them were threatened, then that would relieve a large load from their shoulders, and clear the path for blue sniping.

Except mafia doesn't actually know if the plan's being followed. Who says MHs will follow RoL's suspect list instead of Pandain's?

I'm of the opinion that directing bombs is fine since we can't actually tell if the plans are being followed.
boomer hands
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 03:01:10
December 30 2010 03:00 GMT
#735
[image loading]
TL Mafia XXXV: Day 2 Start


Normally, night is for sleeping. That is, if you're town-aligned. But special townspeople walk the night, don't they?

deconduo and DoctorHelvetica were out of their houses on this night. Neither knew exactly just what they were searching for, but they had an inkling. Following a lead given to them earlier in the day, the two intrepid townspersons tiptoed toward the train station. Their goal was to catch and kill some Mafia.

Approaching the train station, DoctorHelvetica suddenly stopped. There was a presence nearby, as if somebody were... watching them.

And then, out of the shadows stepped a dark figure.

bumatlarge: "Are you frightened?
deconduo: "Yes."
bumatlarge: "Not nearly frightened enough. I know what hunts you."
DoctorHelvetica: "What do you want?"
bumatlarge: "A little more caution from you; that is no trinket you carry."
DoctorHelvetica: "I carry nothing."

Speaking no more, bumatlarge turned and started walking for the train station, and deconduo and DoctorHelvetica hurried after him, DoctorHelvetica's hand clenched tightly upon his weapon.

The inside of the train station was dark. The only light came from a flickering lightbulb set high in the ceiling. Long having been abandoned, the train station was in a state of disrepair, though there was something amiss.

The rails looked as if they had been used recently. Curious, DoctorHelvetica made his way over to the rails, bending down to touch them.

DoctorHelvetica: "Hold out your hand, deconduo. It's quite cool."
bumatlarge: "What do you see? Can you see anything?"
deconduo: "Nothing. There's nothing...

Wait. There are markings..."


Suddenly, a bright light started shining from the end of the tunnel, blinding the three. A train was coming for them, and it did not look like it was going to stop.

bumatlarge: "Blast! Quick, jump back to the platform! We must get off these railings!"

Having been slightly quicker on the uptake, DoctorHelvetica was already back on the other side, and beckoned for the other two to follow suit.

deconduo: "Toss me."
bumatlarge: "What?"
deconduo: "I cannot jump the distance! You'll have to toss me."

He paused for a second, and made sure DoctorHelvetica wasn't looking.

deconduo: "Don't tell the Doctor."
bumatlarge: "Not a word."

However, as bumatlarge prepared to chuck deconduo back to the safety of the platforms, both of them were struck by the train and instantly killed.

DoctorHelvetica hid, and unsheathed the knife he had brought along. He knew that he was probably going to die, but he wanted to take one of them with him. Hooded figures emerged from a passenger car, and DoctorHelvetica prepared to strike. However, as he was moving back toward the edge of the platform, he misjuded the distance. As the good doctor fell off the platform to the ground below, a sickening crack (the breaking of a leg) drew the attention of the Mafia. One of them snickered.

"Mind the gap between the train and the platform."

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]


Pulling out a gun, he shot the injured Doctor in the head, ending his life.

The Mafia strolled away into the night.



DoctorHelvetica the Townie is now dead.
bumatlarge the Townie is now dead.
deconduo the Townie is now dead.



Day 2 voting for lynch will begin now and will end on Friday at 10:00 PM EST (48 hours). Please vote in the thread located here.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
December 30 2010 03:06 GMT
#736
Hm, so mafia isn't bluesniping, but aiming at very experienced players. Getting LSB lynched must have made them real happy...
Going to try to get analysis in tommorow.
boomer hands
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
December 30 2010 03:06 GMT
#737
Oh, and 5/5 Day post!
boomer hands
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
December 30 2010 03:12 GMT
#738
On December 30 2010 12:06 seRapH wrote:
Hm, so mafia isn't bluesniping, but aiming at very experienced players. Getting LSB lynched must have made them real happy...
Going to try to get analysis in tommorow.

And how would they know who is blue? How would we know if they just missed?
Could very well be they just hit those that have experience. But how would we know?
How do you know?
Life can only kill you once.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 30 2010 03:12 GMT
#739
alright everyone vote insanious or my previously outlined reasons.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
December 30 2010 03:14 GMT
#740
On December 30 2010 12:06 seRapH wrote:
Oh, and 5/5 Day post!

I just want to say that I wrote this. Credit hog!
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