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annul
United States2841 Posts
On December 30 2010 11:16 bumatlarge wrote: Annul never calls him out on this facet of being either vig or scum. i called him out on having no possible role with which his claim would fit... close enough? | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
On December 30 2010 12:35 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: right now I would prefer to go after Annul but I feel to get the backing on that would require very hard analysis. Tonight's hits make me think Annul is likely mafia and I can explain why. knowing you i am sure it will come, yes yes? | ||
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Insanious
Canada1251 Posts
On December 30 2010 14:10 annul wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 30 2010 07:02 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: When it comes to Annul, I was really trying to find another candidate who I could put up as a MH bomb because when I divide the player list by 3 instead of 2 it GREATLY reduces the chance of overlapping bombs. On top of that the way Annul got support is a little fishy, I need to do more analysis on it but it is still extremely strange. The bandwagon IMO should never have been so lopsided in favor of LSB even though I think LSB was suspicious, it is really hard to gather a following on a day 1 lynch UNLESS you are mafia. With that justification and an indepth analysis of Annul being very time consuming at the moment I would prefer to put a bomb on him while doing a further analysis later. "lets kill annul but i cant really explain why" preempting the retort: "but i did explain why!" more than 5 or 6 or whatever players joined my wagon. this means IF your contention would be right, then at least some townies also agreed (hell, YOU did). therefore my logic was not bad. LSB lied hardcore to save his ass. so, if the town agreed, why does that mean i am mafia? LSB didn't lie at all in any way shape or form. The people that lynched him just didn't believe him. LSB told nothing but the truth, don't try and tell people that he didn't to turn his lynch away from you... | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
no role exists in this game that can do that. | ||
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Insanious
Canada1251 Posts
On December 30 2010 14:18 annul wrote: he said he could prove =beyond a shadow of a doubt= his blueness by the end of night 2, "maybe earlier". no role exists in this game that can do that. For before night 2 = gets hit by mafia / DT checks him For after night 2 = ask a vig to hit him, he lives, he is vet. He proves beyond shadow of doubt that he is a vet... done and done. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
"DT checks him" is not PROVEN. could be fake DT, who knows? no GUARANTEE that mafia would hit him night 1. so, before night 2 is 100% not a guaranteed proof. after night 2 there is no PROOF the vig would hit him. in fact no vig would blow his load on LSB to "prove" veteran status. losing the vig shot is strictly worse for us than losing a veteran. the point is yes there were many ways he COULD show he was a veteran IF the right people acted and IF the town believed their words, but as for PROOF, there was none. he claimed he could prove it. he couldnt. | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
At this point, it's irrelevant. The fact that we're still arguing that LSB is scum just makes me think the people dragging it up are suspicious. | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
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Node
United States2159 Posts
On December 30 2010 14:35 Incognito wrote: It wasn't posted in the OP, but Blue Bold Font is modfont. Don't use it. Thanks Will do. Sorry about that. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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Insanious
Canada1251 Posts
Either he proves he's blue. He lives. He doesn't, he dies. This could of happened on night 3, wouldn't of hurt the town at all. It could of only helped by saving a blue for more nights, or saved a blue for the rest of the game. Litterally no down side for the town... so we should of waited. I would of killed him instantly on day 3 if I wasn't 100% sure he was blue. Waiting helped the town, killing him gave us nothing. This is what I was saying... there was no point where I KNEW he was blue. And there was no point that I said I was 100% sure he was blue until after he died... Read my posts, and don't put words in my mouth. | ||
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Mr.Zergling
United States141 Posts
On December 30 2010 14:34 Node wrote: You guys are seriously still having this argument? At this point, it's irrelevant. The fact that we're still arguing that LSB is scum just makes me think the people dragging it up are suspicious. Insanious, annul, Mepeak arguing just to throw us off? Sounds like a plausible way for reds to be able to deny association if someone gets lynched and flips red. This is distracting us from real scumhunting and making people feel like they need to jump on one bandwagon, thus fracturing the Town, and allowing the mafia to more or less control our lynch  | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
Avenge me town! | ||
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Mr.Zergling
United States141 Posts
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Insanious
Canada1251 Posts
On December 30 2010 15:20 Mr.Zergling wrote: Also, were is pandain? sleeping probably, like I will be in 10 minutes. Not everyone can be on 24/7  . | ||
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Mr.Zergling
United States141 Posts
On December 30 2010 15:30 Insanious wrote: sleeping probably, like I will be in 10 minutes. Not everyone can be on 24/7 .Fair enough, I'll be sleeping in 20 minutes anyway | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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Mr.Zergling
United States141 Posts
On December 30 2010 15:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote: gg Wait what? | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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why
United States215 Posts
The only real way Insanious came off as scummy was by his choice of Brocket over Seraph. Since Brocket was totally inactive (and hadn't even posted an excuse at the time) this seemed like a pure inactivity lynch and, instead of doing it completely randomly, just used the fact that Brocket's posting activity was different than his past behavior as the deciding factor. Also, it's not like the "let's lynch an inactive" thing only started when it was obvious LSB was going to be lynched, he had stated very early that he wanted to follow that strategy. While Seraph may have been the better choice at the time, I thought that the fact that he was at least posting some gave him the opportunity to defend himself. Of course, as I and others have said, Seraph has continued to post scummily, and so I am going to vote for him now. | ||
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