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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
Here is how I see it (I've already stated this multiple times): If blazing is the SK, then claiming vig is really dumb because he's gonna be shot by mafia later in the game. Almost guaranteed. If blazing is scum, again I think it's really dumb to claim vig. However, multiple people have pointed out that he could be playing on our belief that mafia wouldn't do that, blah blah wifom. That being said, something I don't understand is why he would be banking on a town RB to claim if he's not town. Like, if you're scum or SK why aren't you trying to control your own destiny? He's basically relying on another town member to save him or he knows he's going to be lynched. Conclusion: Probably vigilante. On furerkip/Palmar: I've never seen scum act as wrecklessly as furerkip did day 1. That being said, I pointed out that he wasn't from around here so that shouldn't be a town tell. Also, as VE pointed out, his willingness to mislynch townies seems quite scum motivated. I think that unless Palmar shows us an incredibly towny attitude and finds us some scum, fast, he needs to be lynched. I've read through the thread and everyone's filters and I'm really questioning what I think of Katina. At first I had noted that she was appearing towny because she wasn't afraid to go after the vets like VE and blazing. However, I'm questioning this logic, especially given the Hyaach flip (see below). Mainly though, besides go after VE and blazing, she's done very little scum hunting and has been hesitant to put her thoughts in the thread. The reason I mention the Hyaach flip is because I'm having a hard time following her reasoning for keeping her vote on BH instead of Hyaach. It looks a lot like scum trying to gain some town cred: She claims that there was no way Hyaach was mafia, but the only reasoning she had for not voting him beforehand was that it didn't make sense for Hyaach to claim being RBed if he was mafia. This doesn't make any sense and has been refuted multiple times in the thread! Yet she keeps coming back to it as an excuse not to lynch Hyaach. Also, even though she seems so sure that Hyaach was going to flip town: Yep. There was no way Hyaach was Mafia. She barely tried to prevent his lynch. How can you be so sure someone is town, yet give only a terrible argument and not try harder than that to prevent a mislynch? I think Katina is scum. | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
However, I will respond to everything as soon as I get another chance. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
I'm going to reread Katina's filter now. Also going to reread why I was so convinced one of BH and Hyaach was scum and what would be neccesary to accomodate both being town. If it's just another Town RBer, it might not be as far fetched as I originally thought. I'd rather not have the lynch locked up immediately without thought as that way we'd basically waste a day. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
I think it's weird that Snarfs is agreeing with me so much. A townie would do more to pressure me. I mean, it's nice not to be attacked by SOMEONE but it's also weird. If I die before daybreak, pressure him in my wake. VE is less abrasive towards me (he took longer to swing around to attacking me) than he was in SOAF (filter link), when it was the same blue-vt relationship between us. This could be because I'm playing differently. The fact that he claimed Miller seems weirder given that we don't have any investigative roles, but I wouldn't put it past WBG to give us a Miller and no Cops. He's helping town but he's not confirmed town-- bear this in mind. So yeah, Katina scummy, and a little more pressure on Snarfs and VE would be nice. As a side note to you tinfoil-hatters: I'm not the SK. And if I were, well the SK should be helping the town right now anyways. I hope I die before I wake. <3 town for eva + Show Spoiler + | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Day 3 Flavor here later VisceraEyes the town miller was shot in an alley. 48 hours,10 alive 6 to lynch | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
Also, interesting flip. I don't think Mafia wanted to kill him. Going to have to look back and see who tried to make VE look bad after his claim. Furer comes to mind but I'll have to take a look if there are others, though not tonight. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
##vote Palmar He has not. | ||
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Katina
United States454 Posts
On June 11 2012 06:59 Blazinghand wrote: I don't like that Katina has had a free pass on analysis because all he does is attack me. Katina occasionally lurks but Katina also typically has thoughts on more than one player, and will post aggressively to respond to multiple players in the thread. Check his Liar Game filter for an example of his VT play: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333034&user=248411 I think it's weird that Snarfs is agreeing with me so much. A townie would do more to pressure me. I mean, it's nice not to be attacked by SOMEONE but it's also weird. If I die before daybreak, pressure him in my wake. VE is less abrasive towards me (he took longer to swing around to attacking me) than he was in SOAF (filter link), when it was the same blue-vt relationship between us. This could be because I'm playing differently. The fact that he claimed Miller seems weirder given that we don't have any investigative roles, but I wouldn't put it past WBG to give us a Miller and no Cops. He's helping town but he's not confirmed town-- bear this in mind. So yeah, Katina scummy, and a little more pressure on Snarfs and VE would be nice. As a side note to you tinfoil-hatters: I'm not the SK. And if I were, well the SK should be helping the town right now anyways. I hope I die before I wake. <3 town for eva + Show Spoiler + I have had reads on more then one person. I haven't just been going after to you either. I don't have a free pass, I have trying to help the town fnd scum and contribute. Your accusations against the players in this post are weak. You are pointing fingers at multiple people and doing a poor job at it. | ||
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Shraft
Sweden701 Posts
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Katina
United States454 Posts
On June 11 2012 07:22 Blazinghand wrote: Palmar needs to move mountains to make up for Furerkip's silence. ##vote Palmar He has not. Then you proceed to vote for Palmar I don't remember him being in your night post about who you thought was scummy. Yet again you are throwing around more doubt and throwing around empty accusations on top of your play this gme. Blazinghand has to be Mafia because Hyaach flipped JK and has so many red flags. It's time for him to be lynched. ##Vote Blazinghand | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On June 11 2012 07:34 Katina wrote: I have had reads on more then one person. I haven't just been going after to you either. I don't have a free pass, I have trying to help the town fnd scum and contribute. Your accusations against the players in this post are weak. You are pointing fingers at multiple people and doing a poor job at it. The post is intended as a post of some thoughts of players who are perceived as scum who haven't been pressured but should be. Right now my finger is only pointed at one player, and that's Palmar. What are your thoughts? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On June 11 2012 07:37 Katina wrote: Then you proceed to vote for Palmar I don't remember him being in your night post about who you thought was scummy. Yet again you are throwing around more doubt and throwing around empty accusations on top of your play this gme. Blazinghand has to be Mafia because Hyaach flipped JK and has so many red flags. It's time for him to be lynched. ##Vote Blazinghand .... Are you kidding me? I'm not even going to point you towards where I said I was attacking Furerkip the next day because clearly you're not doing any analysis on me, you're just trying to find excuses to vote me. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
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Katina
United States454 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On June 11 2012 07:43 Katina wrote: Blazinghand, I really don't need to find an excuse to vote you. You have proven that for me this game. I just pointed it out. You are Mafia and got RB'd n 1. Hyaach was RB'd as well and flipped blue. He was RB'd by Mafia and you were RB'd by the town. I bolded the parts that you have no way of proving, and are gonna be proven wrong about very soon. Look, here's what's gonna happen: a bunch of sheeps, scum, and people who are genuinely concerned I may be scum are gonna hop on my wagon, then at some point in the process (whenever he logs in) the town RB will claim, and he'll say he RBed Hyaach N1. Then, you're going to look | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
There is zero chance of Blazinghand being the town vig at this point. Think about it. If blazinghand really was the town vig, that means that really was roleblocked Night 1. That roleblocker is either scum or town.
In addition to this, a second town roleblocker coming forward during the night would make BH nearly confirmed town. Why would scum chose to kill VE over an almost confirmed town at this point in the game? There's no reason for the scum to do this at all. Now, put it together:
Blazinghand rolled scum this game. And what do we do with scum? ##vote blazinghand | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On June 11 2012 08:11 ghost_403 wrote: [*] If there was another town RB, why wouldn't he claim at this point? Mislynching BH at this stage in the game puts us one mislynch closer to losing. He's jeopardizing his own chances of winning by not blaiming to have RB'd BH. Therefore, BH was not roleblocked by another town RB. So then, we are in agreement: once the RB claims, I'm town, and you'll unvote me. | ||
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