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On August 23 2012 19:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Honestly I don't - he mentioned "lapsing" once, and there have been a couple of posts where I was like "Oh Chezinu.." but the vast majority of the time he's not talking about big brother or Brown or Mr Walton or anything like that which are hallmarks of "typical Chezinu" play and I haven't had a hard time following what he's talking about.
So you think he's been scumhunting like a baws?
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Alright this is the lynch I want
##Vote Obvious
For reasons outlined in my post.
tl;dr version:
1. Posts generic stuff (discussing lurker lynches and such)
2. Spends an absurd amount of time obsessing about my random lynch idea
3. His only attempt at scumhunting is basically rehashing what people already said about Kville
4. Wants to lynch me on something that's a null-tell, without any attempt at further analysing my play.
Please go along with this guys.
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back in thread. Why is everyone dropping the focus on Lvdr right now when we had him cold yesterday?
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Palmar, talk to me a little here - you don't mention Chez at all, but I'm getting red from his whole sane/not sane/trolly/not scumhunting thing. What are you seeing??
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Looking at BL's filter. Something seems wrong.
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On August 23 2012 20:53 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar, talk to me a little here - you don't mention Chez at all, but I'm getting red from his whole sane/not sane/trolly/not scumhunting thing. What are you seeing??
I'm seeing Chez.
He voted obvious, I still want him to do a list of mafia, but it's not like I can force Chez to do that.
I don't see a reason to lynch him right now.
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Basically my read on BL is as thus:
The guy never endorses the lynch-lurker position, then lurks pretty hard himself. Why is he adopting such a lurker-friendly stance?
Also, he drops one liners calling people out either 1) flinging baseless accusations or 2) not participating. If you look at those 2 claims, you'll realize he can essentially put everyone into those 2 buckets, as loud players go into bucket 1, and quiet players into bucket 2. So his MO is essentially a wash.
Third issue is why he seems to go out of his way to make himself seem like an active participant:
On August 23 2012 18:46 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 18:43 Palmar wrote:
chill.
I've decided to give you the chance of being town VE.
So let's work together on this one now.
I am currently writing a summary of how I feel about the thread, can you stick around for an hour or so to discuss shit? I Can \o/
On August 23 2012 14:23 Bluelightz wrote:For now, ##Vote:marvellosity
Some reasons 1. Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 21:00 marvellosity wrote:
I will read the thread properly when I manage to steal a decent chunk of time at work.
For now, come out and play or die a horrible scummy death.
##Vote: Kville Takes the easy lynch target, and only because of him lurking, and doesn't provide additional reasons. 2. His post's are mostly one-liners with the occasional suspicion
More reasons later as I read more :/
On August 23 2012 12:08 Bluelightz wrote:
Well, I'm here.
I'm honestly not sure why BL is constantly reminding people that he's here and promising additional analysis... and then not delivering.
For those reasons
##FoS BlueLightz
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vote him or don't, Shady.
I'll look into Obvious more this afternoon.
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Why are you only FoSing him when you were quite happy to follow my vote on kville, backed up with even less reasoning?
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On August 23 2012 21:18 marvellosity wrote:
Why are you only FoSing him when you were quite happy to follow my vote on kville, backed up with even less reasoning?
Because there wasn't a good case around at the time yet. But now there are a bunch of good cases. My reason I'm not voting him is because
1) I feel that the case on KVille is a lot stronger
2) BL hasn't had a chance to respond to the charges yet
I generally believe in giving people a chance to respond before voting them. Seems fair that way.
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ebwop: the first vote on KV was a rando vote. but i'm still sticking with it because of how much better the case on him has gotten.
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On August 23 2012 21:27 Shady Sands wrote:
ebwop: the first vote on KV was a rando vote. but i'm still sticking with it because of how much better the case on him has gotten.
In other words, I'm easier to target and lynch for a scum.
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On August 23 2012 21:34 Kville wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 21:27 Shady Sands wrote:
ebwop: the first vote on KV was a rando vote. but i'm still sticking with it because of how much better the case on him has gotten. In other words, I'm easier to target and lynch for a scum.
So you believe Shady to be scum then... where be your vote?
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I will cast it before i attend work, most likely it will remain to be shady.
But lets look at the case:
Obviously i'm just a bad townie.
Who more to target than someone who blantantly messed upon entering. Scums only seek easy targets, which is why he never attacks VE becuase he is strong and will be almost impossible to attack during the day. I already made my name and he will use it until he completely seals the deal.
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On August 23 2012 21:55 Kville wrote:
I will cast it before i attend work, most likely it will remain to be shady.
But lets look at the case:
Obviously i'm just a bad townie.
Who more to target than someone who blantantly messed upon entering. Scums only seek easy targets, which is why he never attacks VE becuase he is strong and will be almost impossible to attack during the day. I already made my name and he will use it until he completely seals the deal.
The problem with the bad townie defense is that every tell associated with being a bad townie could also be associated with being scum. So KV constantly arguing he's a bad townie is a null tell in my opinion, which means he's done nothing to dissociate himself from the case on his head.
On the other hand, if he built a case on something other than OMGUS, he might be able to persuade me.
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More love for killing obvious?
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So KV constantly arguing he's a bad townie is a null tell in my opinion,
1. I never argured about being a bad townie until now?
On the other hand, if he built a case on something other than OMGUS, he might be able to persuade me.
2. I'm not trying to persuade you that i'm not a scum so it's irrevelant to provide any information to what you say. Why would I tell anything to a scum to further, inorder plant onto someone else? That is just helping you target someone.
Your falling apart now Bro.
##Vote Shady Sands
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On August 23 2012 22:02 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 21:55 Kville wrote:
I will cast it before i attend work, most likely it will remain to be shady.
But lets look at the case:
Obviously i'm just a bad townie.
Who more to target than someone who blantantly messed upon entering. Scums only seek easy targets, which is why he never attacks VE becuase he is strong and will be almost impossible to attack during the day. I already made my name and he will use it until he completely seals the deal. The problem with the bad townie defense is that every tell associated with being a bad townie could also be associated with being scum. So KV constantly arguing he's a bad townie is a null tell in my opinion, which means he's done nothing to dissociate himself from the case on his head. On the other hand, if he built a case on something other than OMGUS, he might be able to persuade me.
It's your responsibility to find out which one is true.
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EBWOP: Why would I tell anything to a scum to further help, Inorder plant onto someone else? That is just helping you target someone.
(Bad writing its cold in here)
Also
Correct format
##Vote Shady Sands
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On August 23 2012 22:07 Kville wrote:1. I never argured about being a bad townie until now? Show nested quote +On the other hand, if he built a case on something other than OMGUS, he might be able to persuade me. 2. I'm not trying to persuade you that i'm not a scum so it's irrevelant to provide any information to what you say. Why would I tell anything to a scum to further, inorder plant onto someone else? That is just helping you target someone. Your falling apart now Bro. ##Vote Shady Sands
No, KV's been talking about being a bad townie for quite a while.
There should be a solid case, which is where my mistake was given such little time given at this moment i cannot post one right now which is why I provided much little information about what i gathered about my suspects Which is the sole reason why I withdrew my vote.
Im not a scum just quick reaction responses becuase of the scenario and place i was at (school).
He now knows that since i am at a corner he can keep piling the bandwagon and keep attacking until the lynch comes and he will find others to attack and go back to strike again.
Obviously i'm just a bad townie.
Who more to target than someone who blantantly messed upon entering.
Every single one of these quotes, from his first defense of why he unlisted Marv up til now, has contained some excuse or another for seemingly anti-town play. That's what I call a classic "bad townie" defense... and it's been ongoing.
The second point KV makes here just digs him in further.
I'm not trying to persuade you that i'm not a scum so it's irrevelant to provide any information to what you say. Why would I tell anything to a scum to further, inorder plant onto someone else? That is just helping you target someone.
KV assumes that he no longer needs to persuade me that he's not a scum because I am scum. But there's still the rest of the town to speak to. Why does KV assume that the rest of the town won't care when he flat out says he no longer needs to build cases on anyone, because that would just "help me target people?"
By that logic, wouldn't anyone building cases on anyone else be detrimental, because they could help scum other than me target people, given that there's more than one scum in this game? Clearly, that line of logic is incorrect.
Ergo--the above quote is exceedingly anti-town, not to mention illogical, and further cements my read on him.
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