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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
July 16 2010 02:56 GMT
#621
On July 16 2010 11:36 nas3 wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119215
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130563
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100015
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.431396
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.431396
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.436925
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.436925

just order this rig

boo at your taste of tim
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835154012
There are other good tims but just not on newegg.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 03:40:53
July 16 2010 03:00 GMT
#622
Now the optical drive holes on the sides don't align correctly with the locking latch on the cm 690...
If I want them to align the drive sticks out about an inch.

Nvm I'm retarded :D Noobs ftw.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
July 16 2010 03:01 GMT
#623
On July 16 2010 12:00 R04R wrote:
Now the optical drive holes on the sides don't align correctly with the locking latch on the cm 690...
If I want them to align the drive sticks out about an inch.

Not too important if you're like me the tool less option works just fine not as good and probably produces more noise but i rare use my dvd drive.

But i always want to screw down my hdd's
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 03:07:03
July 16 2010 03:05 GMT
#624
People really need to stop jumping for the AS5 at every stop. (I realize he didn't choose AS5)

Tuniq TX-2 and Arctic Cooling MX-2 both perform around the same (if not better) and don't need the long curing time. And they aren't capacitive

A lot of the time your money is better spent on a better heatsink anyways. Higher end heatsinks come with higher end compound (H50 comes with Shin-Etsu, Megahalem comes with their own high end rebranded OEM)
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
gchan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States654 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 03:09:45
July 16 2010 03:08 GMT
#625
Might as well post my build. If you're patient enough and collect parts over months at bargain prices, you can save upwards of hundreds of dollars. Note all prices are after tax/shipping.

Total Cost w/o monitor: $1,011
Total Cost w/ monitor: $1,481

CPU: i5 750
Cost: See motherboard

Motherboard: EVGA P55 FTW
Cost (with CPU): $258 +$24 tax = $282

CPU Fan: H50
Cost: $55 flat

Memory: CORSAIR XMS3 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (C7 version)
Cost: $85 flat

Case: Antec 300 Illusion
Cost: $45 + $10 shipping + $4 tax = $59

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W
Cost: $70 + $8 tax = $78

HDD: Intel X25-M 80GB
Cost: $178 + $18 tax = $196

GPU: MSI GTX 460
Cost: $235 + $21 tax = $256

Monitor: Dell U2410
Cost: $431 + $39 tax = $470


Note:
I probably could have saved like $30-$40 waiting for a better deal on the GTX 460 as well as an additional $10-$20 on the PSU (they drop down to $60 sometimes).
I could have also gotten a i7 930, MSI X58 mobo for like $280 ($30 more) but they ran out of stock at Fry's
Also, no optical drive because I already had a USB DVD-RW lying around.

Links to deals below. I'm not trying to advertise slickdeals, but that is where I get most of my deals from.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 03:20:44
July 16 2010 03:18 GMT
#626
On July 16 2010 12:05 FragKrag wrote:
People really need to stop jumping for the AS5 at every stop. (I realize he didn't choose AS5)

Tuniq TX-2 and Arctic Cooling MX-2 both perform around the same (if not better) and don't need the long curing time. And they aren't capacitive

A lot of the time your money is better spent on a better heatsink anyways. Higher end heatsinks come with higher end compound (H50 comes with Shin-Etsu, Megahalem comes with their own high end rebranded OEM)

MX-2 and TX-2 don't have any cure time if i recall correctly and cool better then as5, the TX-3 and MX-3 cooled even better but had 1 problem, they were hard as hell to apply. I've only done the MX-3 but i had to warm it up in my pocket for like half an hour before it became plyable enough to even try to apply.

The TX-4 and MX-4 have even better cooling performance only beat out by some super hard to apply japannese brand which is hard to get. But the mx/tx-4 have much better application then the 3 did according to reviews i've read.

Currently i'm using IC diamond 7 tim which frankly does a great job, if it only is a bit hard to apply.

Also being non capacitive is what i love, i have a copper modded laptop and frankly i wouldn't put as5 on anything for that laptop. I also replace my NB and SB cooling on my computers ususally and that again calls for a non capacitive tim. So does my gpu but just not as much.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 16 2010 03:23 GMT
#627
semantics that hard to apply Japanese brand would be Shin-Etsu. Shin-Etsu provides some really thick thermal pastes. Corsair has a certain kind (I think it's like G7521 or something) stock with the H50.

Yeah, but MX-4 and TX-4 tend to be more expensive and less available. I didn't even know Newegg had MX-4 or TX-4 in stock since I could never find MX-3.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 03:47:27
July 16 2010 03:41 GMT
#628
Yup shin-etsu, from forums i've read around it's even harder to use the mx-3 which i find hard to believe because my experience with the mx-3 is that you have to heat it up else it's like trying to put clay on your cpu.

Also you can find mx-3 on amazon.com

or use special sites like.
http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l2/g8/c127/list/p1/Thermal-Thermal_Interface_Materials.html
where you can find mx-3 and tx-3
along with ocz's thing which is considered good for it's price which newegg used to have and i used to recommend.
and Shin-Etsu compounds
NobleHelium
Profile Joined May 2010
United States82 Posts
July 16 2010 05:28 GMT
#629
On July 16 2010 12:08 gchan wrote:
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Might as well post my build. If you're patient enough and collect parts over months at bargain prices, you can save upwards of hundreds of dollars. Note all prices are after tax/shipping.

Total Cost w/o monitor: $1,011
Total Cost w/ monitor: $1,481

CPU: i5 750
Cost: See motherboard

Motherboard: EVGA P55 FTW
Cost (with CPU): $258 +$24 tax = $282

CPU Fan: H50
Cost: $55 flat

Memory: CORSAIR XMS3 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (C7 version)
Cost: $85 flat

Case: Antec 300 Illusion
Cost: $45 + $10 shipping + $4 tax = $59

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W
Cost: $70 + $8 tax = $78

HDD: Intel X25-M 80GB
Cost: $178 + $18 tax = $196

GPU: MSI GTX 460
Cost: $235 + $21 tax = $256

Monitor: Dell U2410
Cost: $431 + $39 tax = $470


That build has an SSD and no regular hard drive. I don't think anyone can use a desktop with only 80 GB of storage these days...
gchan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States654 Posts
July 16 2010 05:29 GMT
#630
On July 16 2010 14:28 NobleHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2010 12:08 gchan wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Might as well post my build. If you're patient enough and collect parts over months at bargain prices, you can save upwards of hundreds of dollars. Note all prices are after tax/shipping.

Total Cost w/o monitor: $1,011
Total Cost w/ monitor: $1,481

CPU: i5 750
Cost: See motherboard

Motherboard: EVGA P55 FTW
Cost (with CPU): $258 +$24 tax = $282

CPU Fan: H50
Cost: $55 flat

Memory: CORSAIR XMS3 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (C7 version)
Cost: $85 flat

Case: Antec 300 Illusion
Cost: $45 + $10 shipping + $4 tax = $59

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W
Cost: $70 + $8 tax = $78

HDD: Intel X25-M 80GB
Cost: $178 + $18 tax = $196

GPU: MSI GTX 460
Cost: $235 + $21 tax = $256

Monitor: Dell U2410
Cost: $431 + $39 tax = $470


That build has an SSD and no regular hard drive. I don't think anyone can use a desktop with only 80 GB of storage these days...


I already had a 2 TB portable USB HDD so I sort of cheated.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 06:12:40
July 16 2010 06:09 GMT
#631
Eww USB-connected hard drive. Open it up and connect them with SATA if that's possible.

Edit: I'm done building! Wire management and everything! :D

but I don't have a keyboard! FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU-
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 06:15:15
July 16 2010 06:15 GMT
#632
On July 16 2010 15:09 R04R wrote:
Eww USB-connected hard drive. Open it up and connect them with SATA if that's possible.

Edit: I'm done building! Wire management and everything! :D

but I don't have a keyboard! FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU-


Pictures!

How are you typing if you don't have a keyboard ?
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R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
July 16 2010 06:30 GMT
#633
Laptop keyboard

Mmm I'll get pics sometime this week. I want to know if it'll run first before I take pictures or else something like this situation would happen.

Here's pictures of my new piece of shit comp that doesn't even turn on!
[picture]
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 16 2010 06:43 GMT
#634
pictures would be nice yes
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14894 Posts
July 16 2010 12:48 GMT
#635
lol no keyboard is win
that happened to a friend of mine who completely forgot
SnackMan
Profile Joined July 2010
1 Post
July 16 2010 15:47 GMT
#636
How would this system perform running SC2 on ultra?

1 Logitech Internet 350 Black USB Wired Standard Keyboard
Item #: N82E16823126012
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $19.99
1 Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136514
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$20.00 Instant
$139.99
$119.99
1 HEC 6K11BBX585 Black 0.8mm SECC Steel MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case 585W Power Supply
Item #: N82E16811121034
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$22.00 Instant
$71.99
$49.99
1 GIGABYTE GA-880GA-UD3H AM3 AMD 880G SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128444
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $109.99
1 LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS-324-98
Item #: N82E16827106334
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $22.99
1 AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor HDX945WFGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103809
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy $139.99
1 XFX HD-567X-ZNF3 Radeon HD 5670 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814150467
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$10.00 Instant
$109.99
$99.99
1 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
Item #: N82E16820231303
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy -$10.00 Instant
$114.99
$104.99
1 Logitech MX 518 8 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Optical Gaming Mouse
Item #: N82E16826104178
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$7.00 Instant
$42.99
$35.99
1 Hanns·G HH-281HPB Black 28" 3ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor
Item #: N82E16824254043
Return Policy: Monitor Standard Return Policy

Thanks!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 16 2010 16:01 GMT
#637
It would not run SC2 at ultra. Expect medium settings and maybe high settings.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
nineninja9
Profile Joined March 2010
United States194 Posts
July 16 2010 17:43 GMT
#638
You seem to be spending a great deal of money on stuff that, in my opinion, isn't a good use of money. For example, why is so much of your budget spent on a monitor, especially if you won't even be able to run games at high settings? Why are you spending so much on a 2TB storage drive, especially if it's a boot drive? Also, the Case/PSU is somewhat questionable.

Here's a build that will give you better performance for the about same price, though much of the extra money came through the use of smaller monitor. Personally, I'd rather be able to play Crysis on max on a 21" monitor instead of struggling to play even SC2 on high on a 28" monitor, but that is up to preference. There's also room in the budget for the mx518, but it was sold out on newegg.

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Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119215
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181
Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236071
Keyboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126017
RAM/Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.443520
PSU/Disk Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.435082
CPU/GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.432367
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 16 2010 19:20 GMT
#639
You call his PSU questionable, but proceed to recommend another PSU of questionable quality?

:/

No problem with having a large monitor if he plans on using it for something other gaming.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
nineninja9
Profile Joined March 2010
United States194 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 19:37:41
July 16 2010 19:35 GMT
#640
I would trust an OCZ PSU over a no-name that came in a case any day. Just because it isn't Seasonic doesn't mean it's worthless, as you can see with a little googling. I personally find hardwaresecret's PSU reviews to be the most reliable, and they seem to have no problem with it.

And like I said, the monitor size is up for debate, but I would much rather be able to play games on high settings on a smaller size monitor than mediocre settings on a larger monitor with lower pixel density. Again though, that is my preference, as are many of the recommendations in this thread.

EDIT: I just realized, he has an ATX motherboard and a microATX case. That's probably a slightly bigger deal than which graphics card or PSU he gets.
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