• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:16
CEST 05:16
KST 12:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-61PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)8Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE14Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b8IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly5
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 1/8 Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b
Tourneys
SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6 PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
BW Drama: Terror's Debt Incident + C9 disbanding BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Escore Tournament - Season 3 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11134 users

[MSL] Round of 16 - Day 3 - Page 31

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 29 30 31 32 33 62 Next
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8077 Posts
July 29 2010 10:53 GMT
#601
On July 29 2010 19:52 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 19:51 snowdrift86 wrote:
On July 29 2010 19:48 Holgerius wrote:
I'm getting so sick of all-in zergs. -__-

Not like you KT fans don't have any experience of cheesy Terrans with the likes of forGG

Rofl you just called a terran known for his macro cheesy.

I would definitely call ForGG gimmicky, even if he is better than most people think.
Rio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Vietnam598 Posts
July 29 2010 10:53 GMT
#602
JD : Lol, u tooook my protoss food away calm, u so over
What ever ---------------------------------------------------™
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
July 29 2010 10:54 GMT
#603
well done Calm, gj!!!, congrats, Stats good luck next time
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
July 29 2010 10:54 GMT
#604
On July 29 2010 19:52 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 19:50 PoP wrote:
What with the random hate? Those were two perfectly executed builds. Not anyone can pull those off so efficiently.


1. fanboys
2. fanboys

2qtttttttttt n_n

fOrGG > hero in two but hoping for some sexy muta micro.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
snowdrift
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France2061 Posts
July 29 2010 10:54 GMT
#605
On July 29 2010 19:52 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 19:51 snowdrift86 wrote:
On July 29 2010 19:48 Holgerius wrote:
I'm getting so sick of all-in zergs. -__-


Not like you KT fans don't have any experience of cheesy Terrans with the likes of forGG


Rofl you just called a terran known for his macro cheesy.


Do you watch his current TvZ? It's about abusing every way Terran has to end the game early.
NaDa. Our Lord and sAviOr shall return. Learn to nydus you scrub
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
July 29 2010 10:54 GMT
#606
On July 29 2010 19:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 19:50 PoP wrote:
What with the random hate? Those were two perfectly executed builds. Not anyone can pull those off so efficiently.


Any progamer zerg can do that, have you not been watching ZvP for the last year? Hydra busts are probably the most common build nowadays.


I've been watching tons of games, thanks. They have had their success lately but they're pretty much all-in as if they fail, the P can usually roll over the Z with templar tech.

Had Stats not accidentally cancelled Storm he would have been in a very fine shape there.
Administrator
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
July 29 2010 10:55 GMT
#607
On July 29 2010 19:54 snowdrift86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 19:52 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 29 2010 19:51 snowdrift86 wrote:
On July 29 2010 19:48 Holgerius wrote:
I'm getting so sick of all-in zergs. -__-


Not like you KT fans don't have any experience of cheesy Terrans with the likes of forGG


Rofl you just called a terran known for his macro cheesy.


Do you watch his current TvZ? It's about abusing every way Terran has to end the game early.


TvP too.
TranslatorBaa!
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
July 29 2010 10:55 GMT
#608
Meanwhile in plexa's house:

Brainzerg = dirtyzerg

"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
July 29 2010 10:55 GMT
#609
Oh goodness, that was some Stats fail right there. Mistaken Storm cancel cost him the MSL slot. LOL
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2743 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 10:56:22
July 29 2010 10:55 GMT
#610
On July 29 2010 19:50 PoP wrote:
What with the random hate? Those were two perfectly executed builds. Not anyone can pull those off so efficiently.


People is so hypocrite. When Boxer do a bunker rush or a VCE rush or Bisu do a proxy gateway in-base it is good and different. But if Calm a cheese he is the worst and everybody hate him.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
July 29 2010 10:55 GMT
#611
On July 29 2010 19:52 Skillz_Man wrote:
You dont like cheese because it wins games? The attitude towards cheese here is as it was banned. And come on, a hydra break on 3 base is not cheese but a timing push, perfectly timed

It is cheese as it relies on surprise. It is just on 3 base to make it look like Calm is playing standard.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 10:57:51
July 29 2010 10:56 GMT
#612
Honestly I thought that second (third) game was far, far from perfectly executed. Calm was in a disadvantageous position after losing a bunch of hydras on the first break attempt.

It only got worse from there out until the storm blunder.
Oh, my eSports
cokencheese
Profile Joined October 2009
Philippines748 Posts
July 29 2010 10:57 GMT
#613
On July 29 2010 19:55 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 19:50 PoP wrote:
What with the random hate? Those were two perfectly executed builds. Not anyone can pull those off so efficiently.


People is so hypocrite. When Boxer do a bunker rush or a VCE rush or Bisu do a proxy gateway in-base it is good and different. But if Calm a cheese he is the worst and everybody hate him.


That is all Calm knows how to do.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 29 2010 10:57 GMT
#614
On July 29 2010 19:55 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 19:50 PoP wrote:
What with the random hate? Those were two perfectly executed builds. Not anyone can pull those off so efficiently.


People is so hypocrite. When Boxer do a bunker rush or Bisu a proxy gateway in-base it is good and different. But if Calm a cheese he is the worst and everybody hate him.

Calm has it as a general style of play. Bisu does not. And Boxer is from a different era.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
July 29 2010 10:58 GMT
#615
You do what you have to to win. This is not iccup, they play for money and to stay a progammer. If chees wins you games, use it.

No player can stay in the top with pure chees builds.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
July 29 2010 10:58 GMT
#616
On July 29 2010 19:56 QibingZero wrote:
Honestly I thought that second (third) game was far, far from perfectly executed. Calm was in a disadvantageous position after losing a bunch of hydras on the first break attempt.

It only got worse from there out until the storm blunder.

It's hardly Calm's fault his opponent was weak.
The execution was good enough, grats to him.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
July 29 2010 10:59 GMT
#617
On July 29 2010 19:56 QibingZero wrote:
Honestly I thought that second game was far, far from perfectly executed. Calm was in a disadvantageous position after losing a bunch of hydras on the first break attempt.

It only got worse from there out until the storm blunder.


Actually, looking back, it appears it was a 3 Hatch all in as opposed to a 4 Hatch build, so Calm was fine.

Obviously I can only speculate, but I think Calm counted on misleading Stats into thinking he was doing the usual 4 Hatch Hydra build, so Stats thought he was fine after the first wave, and instead was greeted by more Hydras than he expected. Losing those Hydras didn't really hurt Calm since if Zerg really commits to Hydras, he can replenish Hydra numbers very quickly, especially against a Protoss who was probably expecting 2 waves max before transitioning to econ game.

Of course I could just be wrong and Stats was just dumb and Calm was lucky.

But who care, Calm won. Fuck yeah.
TranslatorBaa!
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 11:03:25
July 29 2010 10:59 GMT
#618
On July 29 2010 19:55 Nemesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 19:52 Skillz_Man wrote:
You dont like cheese because it wins games? The attitude towards cheese here is as it was banned. And come on, a hydra break on 3 base is not cheese but a timing push, perfectly timed

It is cheese as it relies on surprise. It is just on 3 base to make it look like Calm is playing standard.


Surprise my ass Stats knew it was coming a mile away . He just fucked up his storm and he probably misjudged how much Calm was comited with the break even thought he had corsairs out already and had a good idea at what Calm was doing ...
Arkqn
Profile Joined August 2008
France589 Posts
July 29 2010 10:59 GMT
#619
On July 29 2010 19:51 snowdrift86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 19:48 Holgerius wrote:
I'm getting so sick of all-in zergs. -__-


Not like you KT fans don't have any experience of cheesy Terrans with the likes of forGG

At least they don't cheese their way through Starleagues.
Elena[PaiN]
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
July 29 2010 11:00 GMT
#620
On July 29 2010 19:58 purpose wrote:
You do what you have to to win. This is not iccup, they play for money and to stay a progammer. If chees wins you games, use it.

No player can stay in the top with pure chees builds.

Ahem, I think you are forgetting kwanro
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Prev 1 29 30 31 32 33 62 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Crank Gathers S4: Playoffs
LiquipediaDiscussion
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
22:55
FSLTeamLeagueFINALS: ST vs PTB
OSC
22:30
OSC Elite Rising Star #20
davetesta49
Liquipedia
The PiG Daily
21:30
Best Games of Starcraft
Reynor vs TBD
ByuN vs Solar
PiGStarcraft520
Discussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft520
XaKoH 211
RuFF_SC2 181
PiLiPiLi 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 6137
Leta 1234
Noble 35
Icarus 6
Dota 2
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
summit1g8566
Other Games
tarik_tv6789
JimRising 535
C9.Mang0459
WinterStarcraft450
ViBE105
ToD74
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick957
BasetradeTV38
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 21
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
44m
RSL Revival
5h 44m
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
7h 44m
Afreeca Starleague
1d
RSL Revival
1d 5h
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 8h
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W5
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
RSL Revival: Season 6
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
Escore Tournament S3: W8
CSLAN 4
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.