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Arctic Daishi
Profile Joined February 2013
United States152 Posts
April 24 2013 16:18 GMT
#41
On April 25 2013 00:47 oneofthem wrote:
what did your teacher say

My professor hasn't graded the assignments yet. No doubt I'll receive a 95% or higher, as always. It's hilarious watching the European kiddies here rant about how much they hate America. Nobody cares about the United Kingdom or Germany, they aren't immediate, or even secondary, targets for annexation.
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
April 24 2013 16:20 GMT
#42
On April 25 2013 01:17 Eschaton wrote:
You should probably submit this to The Atlantic.


or The Onion...
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
April 24 2013 16:22 GMT
#43
On April 25 2013 01:18 Arctic Daishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 00:47 oneofthem wrote:
what did your teacher say

My professor hasn't graded the assignments yet. No doubt I'll receive a 95% or higher, as always. It's hilarious watching the European kiddies here rant about how much they hate America. Nobody cares about the United Kingdom or Germany, they aren't immediate, or even secondary, targets for annexation.

I'm happy to become part of America. There's nothing I want more to be inundated into your huge debt and fucked up elective system.
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
April 24 2013 16:23 GMT
#44
Wow he was probably serious to begin with. Damn.
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
April 24 2013 16:25 GMT
#45
Hahahaha you deleted the OP.
Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
April 24 2013 16:25 GMT
#46
On April 25 2013 00:59 Kimaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 00:57 kollin wrote:
On April 25 2013 00:55 Dapper_Cad wrote:
You have this exactly right with one small change. The states. should become British colonys again first.

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrule Britania!

BRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRitiannia Rules the Waves!

Yeah I support this. The British Empire was far more successful than the USA, and that had a monarchy. I think most people will agree that tea is far nicer than Starbucks coffee anyway.

Ya know I always get a good laugh at how often American's forget how truly awe-inspiring the British Empire was at its peak in terms of...well everything.

American Hegemony today is like Anglo-Empire v2.0. The interface is improved, but the same spirit that drove the first just isn't there.


I have to agree, at least we had an ideal worth fighting for: BRITISHNESS.

What do we have here? Freedom... Guns... Republicanismism... ...

...

Sorry, nodded off there for a moment.

But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
April 24 2013 16:27 GMT
#47
On April 25 2013 01:25 kollin wrote:
Hahahaha you deleted the OP.


Wait... what? He was serious? What the fuck are you teaching kids over there?
But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
April 24 2013 16:28 GMT
#48
Oh god, he was serious. 'Murica!
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6334 Posts
April 24 2013 16:44 GMT
#49
Please tell me someone saved this as a quote... please
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
April 24 2013 16:45 GMT
#50
If you are a highschool sophomore than it's a fairly good essay. If this is for college than it's at best a D for effort. One of the main reasons being that your title is "United States Foreign Policy, Post-Cold War" but mostly fail to analyze those policies. Instead you give a great deal of suggestions that seem to be based on nothing (at least nothing written in the essay). In case your task was to actually suggest post-cold war foreign policies than it's at best a C, since there are far too many questions left (see below).

For argument's sake, I'll go from beginning to end and highlight the biggest issues:

The Georgia part has two completely unreasonable statements:
-"...we should have made it clear long before the invasion that the United States would defend Georgian national sovereignty..."
This basically says that you support a military conflict (started by the US) between the US and Russia because of the invasion of Georgia. Do you want to see nukes used? Furthermore, "Georgia national sovereignity", is a bold statement, since Georgia has been a part of Russia for the largest part of the last 2 centuries. (I'm not saying that I supported the Russian invasion, but your claims are poor at best)
-"...helping Georgia maintain a stable, democratic state, one that would eventually become a U.S. state."
Why should Georgia (or any country for that matter) become a US state? In your whole essay, there is not a single benefit listed for such a drastic meassure. Not to mention that there are tons of economic drawbacks for a developing country to become a US state (alongside tons of other problems).

China part:
-There is no explanation in your essay why Taiwan should be recognized by the US other than: because China won't cut economic ties. At the very least you should have said what Taiwan/US would have gained form such a move.
-"...we should work to build alliances of our own in the African continent, working with democratic and pro-American regimes."
Which are the "African democratic governments"? How much do you know about "democracy" in Africa. Considering the number of allegedly rigged elections in African countries, it's fairly difficult to say which ones are actually "democratic".

On a side note: The strong American bias throughout the essay is inappropriate.
- "On September 11, 2001 the American people, and the world, were struck with tragedy."
The world is struck with tragedy on an hourly basis. The topic is important and highly relevant for your essay, but the addition of "the world" is uncalled for.
-The gun rights mentioned throughout the essay. It's probably the least important issue you could have reviewed.


Israel/Afghanistan/Iraq part:
- "...wholeheartedly support Israel and the Israeli settlements program."
Do you even know what those "settlement programmes" are? Do you realize that a very significant part of the world views them as the wrongful displacement of people? Not to mention that you fail to explain why again.
-Again: Why should Israel become a US state?
-The next two sentences lack yet again explanation of why you believe those would have been the right moves.

EU/UN/AU part:
-"While initially these organizations may have been intended to help the United States dominate the world..."
What a bold and unfounded claim!
-the EU sentence needs more explanation
-the UN sentence is a mockery itself:
You state that the UN "violates the very civil rights it claims to protect" and there certainly are a lot of valid examples you could have taken: countries with blantant human right violations, representatives with a criminal past, inactivity on important subject, etc. However, your example is gun ownership rights in Brazil? Is this really the most pressing issue? It's offensive to people stripped of their basic human rights around the world. Furthermore, it's not like the UN wanted to force Brazil to ban guns. They merely said they supported the proposed policy.
The statement "but the Brazilian people fought back and defeated them." is overly exaggerated, too. There was a referendum, which ended 63:37.

The part about new US states is probably the worst in the whole essay:
-"To counter the rise of international institutions and to ensure the proliferation of freedom around the world, I propose we enlarge the United States."
That's three ridiculous and plain stupid statements in one sentence.
*Why should international institutions be thwarted by the US? Some of those institutions can be beneficial for the US.
*What is "proliferation of freedem"? Why should the US ensure this? What makes you think that anybody around the world wants "American freedem"?
*You still haven't mention why the US should expand.
-You mention again gun ownership. Let me tell you something. This is a non-issue basically all around the world (with large chunks being against it). When people cannot afford food on the table, struggle to find jobs, and live in complete uncertainty about their future, they don't give a fuck about gun ownership.
-"It will not be a quick or easy goal, but it is a noble one and is fully necessary for the preservation of freedom in the world."
This is another ridiculous claim bordering on stupidity (and maybe even crossing the border). Why is it a "noble goal" to try to make sovereign countries US states? Claiming that freedom around the world can only be achieved if many (or do you mean all) countries join the US is unfounded and arrogant.
-"For too long the United States has sat on the sidelines, letting international organizations dictate the world..."
By far the biggest player in world politics is the US. Your statement is factually wrong. Not to mention that even if it were so, you fail to say why the US should intervene.

The paragraph about the requirements for countries becoming US states is absolutely unneccessary, since it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the task you had. Also, pretty much all your claims in there have a heavy American bias and/or are just plain wrong.
-"...respect freedom of speech and the right to bear arms (both of which are often infringed upon in Europe)"
Freedom of speech is infringed upon in Europe? Also, you take Europe as example, when the freedom of speech situation around the world is significantly worse. Yet again the right to beat arms, which most people don't care about. Furthermore, your claim that everybody should be allowed to carry guns is presumptuous.
-Your list of countries that should be primary candidates for US statehood could have been taken straight from "the Onion". For your information, Russian influence in East Europe is still extremelly strong and there are actually a lot of people there who yearn for closer relations with Russia much rather than with the US.

The icing on the cake comes at the very end:
"International organizations cannot be trusted, they have proven themselves to be corrupt and opposed to freedom and democracy, but the United States is the perfect union."
What an extremelly bold, unfounded, arrogant and presumptuous statement.


Please do not be proud of this essay, no matter how much praise you may have received from people. You would be much better off trying to understand all of the problems with it, which I'm sure a lot of people in this thread will point out.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
April 24 2013 16:45 GMT
#51
Someone post the OP back in this thread quick. I missed it and just woke up. I seek to learn the secrets of US foreign policy from one of the great arctic minds of our generation.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 21:56:31
April 24 2013 16:47 GMT
#52
message removed by liquid`drone at the request of OP.

From Liquid`Drone: I do believe you should be entitled to ownership over the texts you post on the internet, and I'm fairly certain you are too young to fully understand how the response to your post would be. This is why I removed it. But please try to understand why the response has been so hostile, and try to take some of the genuine advice to heart - you actually got some excellent feedback.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 16:48:06
April 24 2013 16:47 GMT
#53
Where i can get the six pages ?

edit: thanks dude above !
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 17:01:59
April 24 2013 16:48 GMT
#54
Awww... he deleted it before I got a chance to read it to the end [Edit: thanks ggrrg, now I can read it all.] It looked hilarious. I'm still curious what this essay was intended for. 3 pages suggests secondary school or first term of University.

There are some tasty comments in the thread, though.

On April 25 2013 01:01 micronesia wrote:
This seems to be more about you OP than US foreign policy, so I'm moving the thread to blogs. That's not to say a threat about US foreign policy couldn't be made, but this thread doesn't seem to deliver.


Best Freudian slip in a while (bold face). Indeed, the policy purported in the essay threatens the world with US foreign policy.


On April 25 2013 00:47 BlueRoyaL wrote:
lol this thread

In a way I feel bad for the OP. Reading these comments must be pretty brutal for you, but if you can understand that what they have been saying is true, you can make the most of it.

Generally speaking, posting a high-school essay in Team Liquid and calling it universally praised is never a good idea. I don't ever recall hearing about any high-school essay that was universally praised and brilliant to that point.


I wrote an essay in my first year of high school regarding post-soviet countries in Europe where I made the typo of calling the ''buffer zone'' between NATO and Russia, the ''bugger zone''. That slip was universally praised as historically accurate.

Edit:


In 1996 Russia merged with it’s neighbor, Belarus, forming the Union State.


You shouldn't believe everything Russia and Belarus say. The merging has not actually started, despite the various treaties signed on the topic. To this day, there is no monetary, economic, customs or political union.


United Nations tried to ban guns in Brazil, but the Brazilian people fought back and defeated them.


Took me a while to figure what this refers to. It's the 2005 gun control referendum which Brazilians downvoted with 64%. The United States and the Catholic Church campaigned for the referendum to pass. Come on, essay-writer. Take a similar swing at the Catholic Church.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
April 24 2013 16:55 GMT
#55
Well that's quite funny but still not as dumb than his fantasy thread about the US and Vietnam.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 16:58:05
April 24 2013 16:57 GMT
#56
On April 25 2013 01:55 Boblion wrote:
Well that's quite funny but still not as dumb than his fantasy thread about the US and Vietnam.


Now I'm curious
Do you think you can find the link?
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6334 Posts
April 24 2013 16:59 GMT
#57
You know, he might have deleted the OP to convince everyone he isn't a troll...but secretly...
btw thanks for saving the evidence ggrrg
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
April 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#58
On April 25 2013 01:59 Zeo wrote:
You know, he might have deleted the OP to convince everyone he isn't a troll...but secretly...
btw thanks for saving the evidence ggrrg


If troll, a good one.. 10/10. He had an earlier thread outlining a political platform he wanted opinions on. Running for a local seat in Missouri iirc. Had all the same imperial expansionist and gun indoctrination policies in it.
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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
April 24 2013 17:06 GMT
#59
i myself would join america in a heartbeat for the dunkin donuts which IMO are worth more than independence
memes are a dish best served dank
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 17:07:42
April 24 2013 17:07 GMT
#60
On April 25 2013 02:06 marttorn wrote:
i myself would join america in a heartbeat for the dunkin donuts which IMO are worth more than independence

You've probably never had Krispy Kreme. Hoboy, you gon get Amurica all over yo face.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
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