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On November 17 2010 04:36 Pandain wrote: Wait so if a country is taken over, are they revealed?
Can taken over countries still talk?
I'm not sure. We haven't really received any information to suggest one way or the other, have we?
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I'm assuming some factions (guerillas, communists) could still be in the game even if they had no provinces. It's pretty likely that one or both of the "eliminated" factions are guerilla or communist, then.
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Well Bum attacked me. And he hasn't spoken at all. And his country got invaded.
So... he's probably communit/guerilla then.
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On November 17 2010 05:10 Pandain wrote: Well Bum attacked me. And he hasn't spoken at all. And his country got invaded.
So... he's probably communit/guerilla then.
You know for a fact that bum attacked you? Or are you just working under your assumption that bum was batmania? Lol
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A continuation of KingJame's Post
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/E6Hd4.jpg)
Assuming that everyone sent in their actions, this is what probably happened
- Attack 3
- Defend
- Neutral
- Attack 8
- Attack 6
- Attack 12
- Neutral
- Attack 9
- Neutral
- Defended or no action
- Attack/No Action
- Attack 7
- Attack 11
- Neutral
- Attack 18
- Attack 18
- Attack 14
- Neutral
- Attack 17
- Attack 14
- Defend
- SECRETZ
- SECRETZ
- Defend
- Neutral
- SECRETZ
- Attack 25
- SECRETZ
- SECRETZ
- SECRETZ
[/QUOTE]
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On November 17 2010 00:31 Ace wrote: lol @ annul. No one claim anything. When we start figuring stuff out and you've got high enough votes then we'll worry about claiming.
So if annul is nation 20 now scum knows he only has 1 measley vote, got attacked last and if any of them are one of the countries near him have a leg up on him.
Brilliant!
scum would know a town with 1 vote was in 20 anyway, since scum has the land and player list for their team. so now all they know is that ANNUL, specifically, is in 20, instead of just X random townie.
they gain minimally from this.
next, if people read the logic in ghrur's post, you can figure out that if someone else in that three claims, we have a good chance of lynching a mafia. since mafia doesnt actually gain anything substantive from town claiming, then it seems like an easy decision to me
i do not personally need "high enough votes" - my 1 is fine. i have the rest of town to vote too =)
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also, in the post above, you say 20 attacked 14
i didnt.
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Thinking over Annul's claim, here's what are the possible options: If annul is being truthful: 16 and 19 are most likely mafia because once again, why would 19 attack 17 when 18 is still untaken? That's being extremely risky at a marginal benefit unless you can ensure your attack. If 13 attacked 11, and 20 defended, then 19 and 16 must've been a team who were sure they could take over 17. If annul is lying: Then 20 and 19 together are most likely mafia.
However, here's the one WEIRD thing about this situation... did no one go for the neutral territories then? Why did no one attack 18 or 14? Here's a possible answer: Given 19 and 16 know each other, 17 has no information, and 11 has no information: 19 and 16 can plot to take 17 because they can take one out together, hurts town, helps mafia. They attack 17 together. 17 is right by 14. 14 is neutral. 17 attacks 14. 11 is also right by 14. 11 attacks 14. 11 and 17 are different alliances, they cancel each other out. 11 is taken over, 17 is taken over, and 15 just defended by being a defensive player.
At this point, it seems 19 and 16 are mafias together. I'd suggest people around them to attack their provinces this night phase unless new information comes out. Also, annul is right in this. Claiming doesn't hurt you UNLESS you ANNOUNCE or INDICATE what you will do in the night phase publicly.
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On November 17 2010 05:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 05:10 Pandain wrote: Well Bum attacked me. And he hasn't spoken at all. And his country got invaded.
So... he's probably communit/guerilla then. You know for a fact that bum attacked you? Or are you just working under your assumption that bum was batmania? Lol
I'm still here.
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Does this mean we should try and eliminate the whoring kingdom? Seriously, why would mafia send aid to a stranger? Why would a townie send aid to a stranger if it wasn't a nation in despair?
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On November 17 2010 08:19 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 05:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 17 2010 05:10 Pandain wrote: Well Bum attacked me. And he hasn't spoken at all. And his country got invaded.
So... he's probably communit/guerilla then. You know for a fact that bum attacked you? Or are you just working under your assumption that bum was batmania? Lol I'm still here. Batmania must have attacked country 14. This is because country 17 had also attacked country 14.
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A continuation of KingJame's Post
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/E6Hd4.jpg)
Assuming that everyone sent in their actions, this is what probably happened
Night One
- Attack 3
- Defend
- Neutral
- Attack 8
- Attack 6
- Attack 12
- Neutral
- Attack 9
- Neutral
- Defended or no action
- Attack 14
- Attack 7
- Attack 11
- Neutral
- Attack 18
- Attack 18
- Attack 14
- Neutral
- Attack 17
- Defend
- Defend
- SECRETZ
- SECRETZ
- Defend
- Neutral
- SECRETZ
- Attack 25
- SECRETZ
- SECRETZ
- SECRETZ
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Okay I guess I'm revealing myself, but it doesn't really matter because why would anyone attack the Home of the Pandas?
I'm 10. The only possible way I could've gotten attacked was either from batmania or a naval thing. But why would someone be dumb enough to already use that.
It's batmania.
On November 17 2010 09:03 LSB wrote: Wait, so it's revealed if you were attacked?
Indubitably.
THnak goodness I can edit now so then I don't do one line 5 posts.
And why is seraph being lynched?
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Wait, so it's revealed if you were attacked?
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Either that or 13 is an elite soilder
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Country claims Pandain 10 ... New Aiur annul 20 ... eight equals equals equals capital D Hesmyrr 27 ... Sakura Gaibun
starting the list before more claims make things confusing. Also who attacked 13?
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8===D
is my country. get it? ;D
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SIFZ Intel Release
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/1GjPB.jpg) We have reached contact with Land of Preemptive Retaliation (17) Last night, country 17 attacked country 13.
Interestingly enough, the attack failed.
Given that country 13 had attacked country 11. This means two things
- Country 13 is a solider
- Country 13 received support from a neighbor country
Although we do not know who country 13 is, SIFZ was asked to release this information anonymously so we did.
Tread Carefully, LSB
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That's quite a long nose.
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On November 17 2010 10:32 Hesmyrr wrote: Country claims Pandain 10 ... New Aiur annul 20 ... eight equals equals equals capital D Hesmyrr 27 ... Sakura Gaibun
starting the list before more claims make things confusing. Also who attacked 13? WTF how do you know this? That someone attacked 13
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