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Sadly it seems I have to put this up yet again. Any of the following types of posts will be met with immediate bans:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining/Off topic arguing.

Stick to the games and enjoy the event and its free services and coverage.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
June 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#5301
Did bomber just waste a mule? Is he tilting?
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
June 20 2011 14:07 GMT
#5302
wow, is bomber tired or something? he's making so many mistakes that someone of his level wouldnt be making
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
June 20 2011 14:08 GMT
#5303
I agree with Apollo, when July went in.. instead of going for the kill with just 2 zerglings.. try to get as much knowledge as you can.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 20 2011 14:08 GMT
#5304
On June 20 2011 23:06 CEPEHDREI wrote:
bomber just showed us why it took him so long to get an code A spot. sometimes hes playing dumb random stuff. the 2 port banshee thingy is way too random and risky. And then this blind timingpush at meta.

Bomber is good enough 2 rely on his mechanics and his skills but today he just tried it in the second game where he got too far behind after moons banelings bust.

but yeah good for Moon.



Well, he could have killed July if he hadn't scouted the second rax. Or at least applied a LOT of unexpected pressure. But he did build it in a bad place.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4377 Posts
June 20 2011 14:08 GMT
#5305
On June 20 2011 23:06 Xception704 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 23:05 TheBB wrote:
On June 20 2011 23:04 youngminii wrote:
Game 1 Start
Bomber V Moon
Current score: 0-0
Map: Crossfire SE
Bomber at 1 o'clock
Moon at 7 o'clock

You are either late or wrong.


He's right.. game 1 of 3rd place match between Bomber and Moon just started.


Wrong. July.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
cbRRRR
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany179 Posts
June 20 2011 14:08 GMT
#5306
is this finally best of five?
twitch.tv/cbrofl
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 20 2011 14:08 GMT
#5307
Even day[9] is close to saying how bad Bomber is playing right now. -_-
Writer@WriterYamato
BertiliO
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden134 Posts
June 20 2011 14:08 GMT
#5308
On June 20 2011 23:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 23:02 Skyze wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:59 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:57 Daray wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:55 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:44 Xception704 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:35 daxile wrote:
so many moon doubters, where are you now ^^?


Here I am, he went for extremely cheesy strategies in all 3 games and Bomber played right into his hands.


Wow are you serious.

1. Bomber goes 2 port banshee all-in first game and gets lucky.
2. Moon beats Bomber in a straight-up macro game in game 2.
3. Bomber plays like shit in game 3 and gets straight up raped by Moon.

1 + 2 + 3 = Moon went for extremely cheesy strategies .......?????

Don't be mad you lost money. Bomber was the cheesy one this series and Moon took advantage. I don't even like Moon (nor do I dislike him) but you're post is so full of shit; it's like you didn't even watch the game.


1. Baneling bust instead of teching to muta which is the correct response to 2 port banshee
2. Baneling bust, which got him a 30 drone lead, that he decided to drag out into a 37 minute game
3. Pure roach against Terran ... Need I say more? Had Bomber not suicided ALL his units into the fog of war + creep he would've won 100%.


My head just exploded. I think you're obligated to come clean this shit up.


None of those games were a solid Zerg style, he just turned out lucky in a Bo3, and if taking into account raw skill Bomber is certainly the better player, he just played really awfully.


its amazing how much brainwash IdrA has people.. wow.. seriously?


Idra? Wait, what?


It doesn't matter who anyone of you "thinks" is the better player. Moon won fair and square and have advanced to the Grand Final vs HuK. End of discussion. Besides who would deserve it more then Moon beating WhiteRa, Naniwa and bomber?

Epic Final incoming ^^
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
June 20 2011 14:08 GMT
#5309
On June 20 2011 23:07 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 23:03 zerious wrote:
On June 20 2011 23:03 David451 wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:58 shizna wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 shikheh wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 shizna wrote:
i didn't want to say anything before, but bomber was hugely disappointing in this tournament.

i didn't see anything special. he's like julyzerg but terran. very aggressive and solid play, but so risky and cocky - cheese/hidden expo etc. consistantly disappointing even from his first group match, definitely not deserving of winning the tournament.


mana and happy could have beaten him in the group stages with a bit of luck.



You have got to be kidding me.

Is that why all the korean players in GSL are so scared of him?

Give me a break.


obviously he's a good player. but his demonstration of skill at dreamhack summer has been lacking.

i can't recall a single series in this tournament that bomber won through simply outclassing his opponent.

look at his first game versus happy on xel'naga caverns. happy's skill was easily on the level of bomber, but unfortunately happy failed to spot the hidden expo which cost him the game (and similar in game2 plus the cheese).

in the final game against MC, he won because MC was trying too hard to get the experimental archon composition right from the start. hence the mass zealots and almost skipping colossus, such a fragile build in PvT because you need sentry to survive but that makes your zealots weak as hell. bomber just went standard and practically won with an a-move.


players like MC, MMA, nestea and MVP look so good. you can tell it's them because of insanely good decision making, control and taking 'unusual' strategies and making them insanely good.

bomber's decision making looks sloppy.


i was expecting a lot more... imo MMA looks a much better player.

Bomber is #1 ELO worldwide - http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/detailed_elo.php?section=sc2-korean&


ELO is not good in SC2, most of his games are from tournaments that most of the top players didn't even compete in


Do you know how ELO works? You don't get much points winning against bad players.


you don't lose points either
TheMexican
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany96 Posts
June 20 2011 14:08 GMT
#5310
i have to agree bomber did not play his best at this tournament, he plays soooo dangerously, and sometimes it was the pure surprise that caught his opponent offguard.
i did not see the mc games unfortunately but i thought mma was way more impressive at mlg than bomber is here right now.

overall i expected a little more of dh with so many big names, i thought quality of games at mlg was actually higher.
but final has yet to come maybe it can make up for it, huk-moon was one of the greatest matches so far.
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
June 20 2011 14:08 GMT
#5311
Oh my god that background noise is so annoying. D:


Anyone else getting it?
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
June 20 2011 14:08 GMT
#5312
On June 20 2011 23:05 Zorgaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 23:01 Zorgaz wrote:
My stream isn't working =/.

Been working up till now, and i have great internet speed here at work so it's no that :S


Still not working -.-'


Stream now working
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 14:08:54
June 20 2011 14:08 GMT
#5313
On June 20 2011 23:07 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 23:06 youngminii wrote:
On June 20 2011 23:04 youngminii wrote:
Game 1 Start
Bomber V July
Current score: 0-0
Map: Crossfire SE
Bomber at 1 o'clock
July at 7 o'clock

2:30
Bomber with a Maka rax in the middle of the map that an Overlord scouts. July goes Pool first.

4:30
Bomber sends his proxy Rax back into his ramp and then takes both his gas before starting a CC. July taking his own Hatch.

6:00
Bomber gets a Tech Lab on that Factory instead of making a Starport, starts siege tech. July making a Roach Warren.
lalala
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
June 20 2011 14:08 GMT
#5314
On June 20 2011 22:53 pAzand wrote:
Well I wouldn't say a 70% winrate in TvZ is bad including a 3-0 record against Losira, what's up with people always bashing on the players losing games? Every player will lose games in Sc2, that's how it is and always will be...

Well done by Moon, gl in the finals, but... HUK FIGHTING!

I don't think it's that his tvz is bad. Rather that it looks poor in comparison to his other matchups where he looks incredible.

Just like idras zvp isn't bad at all, but if you compare it to his zvz and zvt it looks weak, or losira with his disproportionally poor zvt etc. etc...

Moon has to get some credit though, he is improving very fast.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
June 20 2011 14:09 GMT
#5315
On June 20 2011 23:03 David451 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:58 shizna wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 shikheh wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 shizna wrote:
i didn't want to say anything before, but bomber was hugely disappointing in this tournament.

i didn't see anything special. he's like julyzerg but terran. very aggressive and solid play, but so risky and cocky - cheese/hidden expo etc. consistantly disappointing even from his first group match, definitely not deserving of winning the tournament.


mana and happy could have beaten him in the group stages with a bit of luck.



You have got to be kidding me.

Is that why all the korean players in GSL are so scared of him?

Give me a break.


obviously he's a good player. but his demonstration of skill at dreamhack summer has been lacking.

i can't recall a single series in this tournament that bomber won through simply outclassing his opponent.

look at his first game versus happy on xel'naga caverns. happy's skill was easily on the level of bomber, but unfortunately happy failed to spot the hidden expo which cost him the game (and similar in game2 plus the cheese).

in the final game against MC, he won because MC was trying too hard to get the experimental archon composition right from the start. hence the mass zealots and almost skipping colossus, such a fragile build in PvT because you need sentry to survive but that makes your zealots weak as hell. bomber just went standard and practically won with an a-move.


players like MC, MMA, nestea and MVP look so good. you can tell it's them because of insanely good decision making, control and taking 'unusual' strategies and making them insanely good.

bomber's decision making looks sloppy.


i was expecting a lot more... imo MMA looks a much better player.

Bomber is #1 ELO worldwide - http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/detailed_elo.php?section=sc2-korean&

Thats the korean ELO table not the worldwide one (yes there are 2 on TLPD)
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 20 2011 14:09 GMT
#5316
On June 20 2011 23:08 Shalaiyn wrote:
Oh my god that background noise is so annoying. D:


Anyone else getting it?


No noise but the stream is choppy (Florida US East Coast)

Still good enough to watch of course.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Tears.Of.The.Moon
Profile Joined September 2009
Slovenia715 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 14:11:04
June 20 2011 14:09 GMT
#5317
So who is playing Moon or July ?

EDIT: Oh it's a 3rd place match
ヽ（´ー｀）┌
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 20 2011 14:10 GMT
#5318
On June 20 2011 23:08 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 23:07 youngminii wrote:
On June 20 2011 23:06 youngminii wrote:
On June 20 2011 23:04 youngminii wrote:
Game 1 Start
Bomber V July
Current score: 0-0
Map: Crossfire SE
Bomber at 1 o'clock
July at 7 o'clock

2:30
Bomber with a Maka rax in the middle of the map that an Overlord scouts. July goes Pool first.

4:30
Bomber sends his proxy Rax back into his ramp and then takes both his gas before starting a CC. July taking his own Hatch.

6:00
Bomber gets a Tech Lab on that Factory instead of making a Starport, starts siege tech. July making a Roach Warren.

8:00
Bomber gets his natural set up. July starts a Lair and moving out with just a few Roaches.
lalala
VAGZ
Profile Joined September 2010
574 Posts
June 20 2011 14:10 GMT
#5319
On June 20 2011 23:08 Shalaiyn wrote:
Oh my god that background noise is so annoying. D:


Anyone else getting it?


if you mean that static-ish sound, yes, but I'm used to it now. Have had it all tournament on day9 stream
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
June 20 2011 14:10 GMT
#5320
On June 20 2011 23:09 PerfectTear wrote:
So who is playing Moon or July ?

July
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