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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
April 09 2013 23:26 GMT
#5021
Where do whores go?
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
-vVvTitan-
Profile Joined August 2010
United States473 Posts
April 09 2013 23:56 GMT
#5022
On April 10 2013 07:59 Zozo wrote:
Anyone else thinks the guy who plays Jojen could be an amazing voice actor? Maybe he has done some work on that already, I have no idea.


My sister said the guy played in Dr. Who. Yeah, he's pretty badass
vVv.Titan @ vVv-Gaming.com
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
April 10 2013 01:30 GMT
#5023
Human Nature.
Cayn
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany173 Posts
April 10 2013 03:07 GMT
#5024
the ramsay "introduction" made me giggle so hard my family who didnt read the books where a bit confused about it it makes so much fun to catch these little things if u know the story from the books =)
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 10 2013 12:18 GMT
#5025
On April 10 2013 05:54 karazax wrote:
Having her gang raped, paid, and then making Tyrion go last was argueably worse than killing her. Then he provokes Tyrion the whole time after obviously having slept with Shae and proving what a hypocrit he was about whores.
"What did you do with Tysha?"
"Tysha?"
He does not even remember her name.
"The girl I married."
"Oh yes. Your first whore." (Jaime had just told Tyrion she actually wasn't a whore and really did love him)
Tyrion took aim at his father's chest. "The next time you say that word, I'll kill you."
"You do not have the courage."
"Shall we find out? It's a short word, and it seems to come so easily to your lips." Tyrion gestured impatiently with the bow. "Tysha. What did you do with her, after my little lesson?"
"I don't recall."
"Try harder. Did you have her killed?"
His father pursed his lips. "There was no reason for that, she'd learned her place... and had been well paid for her day's work, I seem to recall. I suppose the steward sent her on her way. I never thought to inquire."
"On her way where?"
"Whereever whores go."


Alright, the whole crossbow thing aside, I just don't understand Tyrion's fascination with this woman. He of all people should have the sensibility to know that even if things didn't end the way they did, there was not going to be a possibility of him staying happily married to her.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 12:41:54
April 10 2013 12:40 GMT
#5026
On April 10 2013 21:18 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 05:54 karazax wrote:
Having her gang raped, paid, and then making Tyrion go last was argueably worse than killing her. Then he provokes Tyrion the whole time after obviously having slept with Shae and proving what a hypocrit he was about whores.
"What did you do with Tysha?"
"Tysha?"
He does not even remember her name.
"The girl I married."
"Oh yes. Your first whore." (Jaime had just told Tyrion she actually wasn't a whore and really did love him)
Tyrion took aim at his father's chest. "The next time you say that word, I'll kill you."
"You do not have the courage."
"Shall we find out? It's a short word, and it seems to come so easily to your lips." Tyrion gestured impatiently with the bow. "Tysha. What did you do with her, after my little lesson?"
"I don't recall."
"Try harder. Did you have her killed?"
His father pursed his lips. "There was no reason for that, she'd learned her place... and had been well paid for her day's work, I seem to recall. I suppose the steward sent her on her way. I never thought to inquire."
"On her way where?"
"Whereever whores go."


Alright, the whole crossbow thing aside, I just don't understand Tyrion's fascination with this woman. He of all people should have the sensibility to know that even if things didn't end the way they did, there was not going to be a possibility of him staying happily married to her.

Love ain't logical.

Tyrion was in love with this woman. You know what Tywin did to her. Tywin lied to Tyrion initially to make his actions more understandable ("She was just a whore and never loved you in the first place"). Once that lie became known, well.. Tyrion did what he had to do. I'm not sure what's not understandable about any of this.

I'm getting more and more convinced that Shae is filling the role of Tysha in the show, by the way. In the show, Shae will be Tyrion's big love, and it will be Shae who will be taken away/murdered by Tywin (probably right after Tyrion will be arrested for Joffrey's death), which will result in Tyrion killing Tywin.

It's an understandable change. You can't have Tyrion killing his father based on a story he told at one point in Season 1, as much as we'd like that.
Adron
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands839 Posts
April 10 2013 12:48 GMT
#5027
btw, isnt it gutwrencing to read all the posts in the unspoilered thread from all those hopeful people?
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 10 2013 13:03 GMT
#5028
On April 10 2013 21:48 Adron wrote:
btw, isnt it gutwrencing to read all the posts in the unspoilered thread from all those hopeful people?


The show is starting to veer further from the books, so there's genuine chance for major changes down the road.
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 13:27:54
April 10 2013 13:17 GMT
#5029
On April 10 2013 22:03 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 21:48 Adron wrote:
btw, isnt it gutwrencing to read all the posts in the unspoilered thread from all those hopeful people?


The show is starting to veer further from the books, so there's genuine chance for major changes down the road.

I don't know about major changes, i don't think they are going to change any of the important events.

Red Wedding/Tywin's death/Jaime's hand.... all of this stuff will happen and people will be really shocked because nothing
interesting is going on during the first episodes lol

One major change i'm hoping for is that Tyrion will find Ros and Littlefinger with Shae in Tywin's bed and he will kill all those terrible characters.
Adron
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands839 Posts
April 10 2013 13:43 GMT
#5030
not only that, but everyone is shouting that dany will do this n that, not knowing shell be nothin for 3 books straight
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1961 Posts
April 10 2013 14:50 GMT
#5031
Well, you can't say that. Her freeing the slaves of Astapor will be nice to watch and a highlight of this series. Maybe even the last episode. If they split Book 3 into two, the red wedding will probably the last episode of the 4th series. What would you end this one with, then? Geoffreys death? Oh boy, i am getting excited just thinking of it.

However, has the splitting ever been officially confirmed. I feel like they don't have the content at the pace they are at the moment.

Shae being a true love for Tyrion would be really bad. But it would work out for those who did not read the books, i guess. I would still be sad.
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
April 10 2013 15:00 GMT
#5032
On April 10 2013 23:50 Broetchenholer wrote:
Well, you can't say that. Her freeing the slaves of Astapor will be nice to watch and a highlight of this series. Maybe even the last episode. If they split Book 3 into two, the red wedding will probably the last episode of the 4th series. What would you end this one with, then? Geoffreys death? Oh boy, i am getting excited just thinking of it.

However, has the splitting ever been officially confirmed. I feel like they don't have the content at the pace they are at the moment.

Shae being a true love for Tyrion would be really bad. But it would work out for those who did not read the books, i guess. I would still be sad.


I'm pretty sure the RW is confirmed for the second-to-last episode of S3.
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
April 10 2013 16:32 GMT
#5033
My memory is pretty hazy when it comes to Arya's current plight.

Now that they've met, somehow the Hound and Arya get separated, they travel together and find some Lannister men in the tavern (where Arya stabs the torturer to death) and that's where she reclaims Needle?

Was that how it went?
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
April 10 2013 16:39 GMT
#5034
On April 11 2013 01:32 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
My memory is pretty hazy when it comes to Arya's current plight.

Now that they've met, somehow the Hound and Arya get separated, they travel together and find some Lannister men in the tavern (where Arya stabs the torturer to death) and that's where she reclaims Needle?

Was that how it went?


The Tickler is already dead in the show. She used one of her three assassinations on him. They will have to do something else if she is going to have her iconic scene where she murders one of the Mountain's men. I can't recall whether she reclaims Needle in the books or not, I thought she didn't ever get it back.

In the book, they capture the Hound but have to release him after he wins a trial by combat with Beric Dondarrion. He follows them, and snatches Arya when she's not paying attention so that he can claim her ransom at the Twins by delivering her to Robb/Catelyn, but they get there on the night of the Red Wedding.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 10 2013 16:46 GMT
#5035
She gets Needle off of one of Gregor's men, but never really uses it (has to hide it during her time at the House of Black and White).
It's your boy Guzma!
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
April 10 2013 16:53 GMT
#5036
The TV show changed the Hand of the King's badge for a brooch instead of a necklace of hands linked into a chain.

How is Tyrion going to choke Shae?
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 10 2013 17:15 GMT
#5037
http://winteriscoming.net/2013/04/grrm-reveals-strong-belwas-has-been-cut/
It's official. No Strong Belwas for us. A pity, but quite understandable.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
April 10 2013 17:54 GMT
#5038
On April 11 2013 02:15 Conti wrote:
http://winteriscoming.net/2013/04/grrm-reveals-strong-belwas-has-been-cut/
It's official. No Strong Belwas for us. A pity, but quite understandable.


I always liked Strong Belwas as a character, but it is true that he has very little impact on the story other than inadvertently saving Dany from the poisoned locusts, which can easily be exchanged for a different plot device when we get to that point, likely several seasons off. Although his fight outside of Mereen? was one of the funnier parts of the books IMO.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 10 2013 19:39 GMT
#5039
On April 11 2013 02:15 Conti wrote:
http://winteriscoming.net/2013/04/grrm-reveals-strong-belwas-has-been-cut/
It's official. No Strong Belwas for us. A pity, but quite understandable.


My bet is that Daario will take his place in the duel.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 10 2013 19:48 GMT
#5040
On April 11 2013 01:53 Spaiku wrote:
The TV show changed the Hand of the King's badge for a brooch instead of a necklace of hands linked into a chain.

How is Tyrion going to choke Shae?

As I mentioned above, my guess is that he's not going to. I'll bet that Shae will be killed by Tywin instead.
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