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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 07 2013 16:09 GMT
#481
On July 08 2013 00:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
johnny is probably town, get your votes off him. Maju for example is far better target, and if you can't tell me what's wrong with my Chezinu-analysis you should be obviously voting for him.


Honestly, I'd say that him flipping scum wouldn't surprise me. That nuke was insane as either alignment but makes slightly more sense as scum. Still, there are so many shady characters in the thread right now that I'm inclined to lynch one of them. Chezinu should reveal himself as scum more easily as the game continues (given his apparently careless play).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 07 2013 16:17 GMT
#482
Yeah because clearly the strongest advocate for the biggest lynch wagon must be scum. Scum love to be the center of attention and troll and push their 'scumreads.'
K.

Anyway let me comment on some other stuff.
Dandel is much lurkier as scum than town so mabes keep an eye on him. He tends not to give a shit about anything at all which is certainly evident thus far.

As far as another lurker lynch I don't like it. There are WAAAYYY too many people who fit that description at this time and while I'd agree that there must be scum amongst them right now, it's basically a crapshoot and I don't know what our odds look like.

Who is who thought Onegu might be scum? From watching his newbie games I'm pretty sure I could pick him out so let me have a look.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 07 2013 16:19 GMT
#483
On July 08 2013 01:09 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 00:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
johnny is probably town, get your votes off him. Maju for example is far better target, and if you can't tell me what's wrong with my Chezinu-analysis you should be obviously voting for him.


Honestly, I'd say that him flipping scum wouldn't surprise me. That nuke was insane as either alignment but makes slightly more sense as scum. Still, there are so many shady characters in the thread right now that I'm inclined to lynch one of them. Chezinu should reveal himself as scum more easily as the game continues (given his apparently careless play).



They could both be town or both be scum launching positve nuke, xatalos has already posted he is immune to certain types of nukes, what if he gets a buff if hit with that type of nuke. The second only applies if both are scum, but if it is a straight up buff nuke why not claim it?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 07 2013 16:19 GMT
#484
On July 08 2013 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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There's 5 people voting me right now. Since I'm town, there's probably 2-3 scum voting for me and 2-3 misguided townies. Among the people who voted for me, I think WoS, TanGeng are the most scummy. I've already said why I don't like WoS, and I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. I'm pretty sure xatalos is town. I'm unsure about vayne.. I don't like him by any stretch of the imagination but he seems too bold voting me first...I don't know, he may be scum still. Abenson hasn't posted much...like at all. I can't really read him based on his posts in thread but he certainly looks like scum to me for quietly hopping on the bandwagon to vote me without saying anything.

So if I were to say whos townie and whos scum out of those 5 I'd say Xatalos and Vayne are town and the other 3 are scum, but I need more to go on from Abenson but he really hasn't given me a good first impression.


This part of Johnny's post mirrors my thoughts on the people voting for him like 100%. Only thing i disagree to some extent is that WoS is the scummiest of those people.

Rayn you really believe that half the scumteam jumped on the Whoops Wagon this early when half the thread is lurking and it's just as easy for them to hide? You say Johnny is town, why? Just because his post mirrors your thoughts?
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 07 2013 16:20 GMT
#485
On July 08 2013 01:08 johnnywup wrote:
These are the posts that WoS has made that have any value whatsoever:

+ Show Spoiler +

On July 07 2013 09:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Geript town
Gumshoe town
Not sure on everyone else yet
Be back again sooooooooooooooooooooon


On July 07 2013 09:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On July 07 2013 09:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i do not have a nuke. I tell that now. SOMEONE NUKE CHEZINU!
Anyone who is town and has a nuke, nuke Chezinu-.

Nobody listen to this.

This is what loses town high kp games. People need to sit back and chill the fuck out. Xat is most likely dead, now lets not do anything rash.

No, what loses town high KP games is the fact that townies or scum shoot town.
Xatalos is the fucking towniest guy in thread besides gumshoe.
You are probably scum for questioning me besides Chezinu's reasons for nuking Xata.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Chezinu

Congratulations, you may be the dumbest person currently playing this game.

You're also easily the scummiest. You start off super defensive, then proceed to shit up the thread with a dumb argument and then go after chez who is a pretty easy (but incredibly bad) target since he launched a nuke. Then you omgus.

I'd be down a for a rayn lynch.

Dandel, wos, austin, geript lets get some input here.

Nope, not ready to lynch Rayn---I can read him pretty decently for the most part I feel so I'm gonna let him stick around. I remember thinking someone else was pretty scummy actually (and I still think it's MORE likely that Chez is scum than he isn't but whatever)...oh yeah, johnnywup.

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On July 07 2013 08:56 johnnywup wrote:
Okay to be honest guys I don't see any scumtells out of anyone so far. Seems like you're all just drawing lots of focus to stuff that doesn't actually tell you anything. THAT'S the scummiest thing I've seen as of yet.

This is some scummy shit, yo. Like....it's true, but it's such a 'Hey guys, let's be iirends' way of saying it. Also kind of funny is he says he doesn't see any scumtells yet calls everyone scummy. Wat.


On July 08 2013 00:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
You know what's funny?
Both of the people voting for me currently have provided absolutely zero reasoning as to why I'm scum.
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On July 07 2013 10:42 johnnywup wrote:
I now remember why I stopped playing mafia, lol. Sorry if I look like scum, I haven't played in a looong time and even then I was terrible and always looked scummy as town.

On July 07 2013 10:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
ALL ABOARD THE TRAIN OF JUSTICE
WOO WOOOOOOO!!!
##Vote: johnnywup

Why wait until two others voted me to vote me? You already thought I was scum.

I really do think vayne is scummy atm though. Nothing productive at all. (say what you want about me but you can't deny that vayne hasn't done shit). Look through his filter. I don't know if he's just lazy/bad town or purposefully doing nothing but not liking him :\

WoS is also not looking very good for me atm but I can't really put a finger to why. His sarcasm is questionable for me and obviously I don't like him voting for me (don't like anyone voting for me though, obviously). The only constructive post he has is the one that targets me, which is good, but for the rest of his filter he's sarcastic, talking about other games, etc. I don't know.

Show nested quote +

There's 5 people voting me right now. Since I'm town, there's probably 2-3 scum voting for me and 2-3 misguided townies. Among the people who voted for me, I think WoS, TanGeng are the most scummy. I've already said why I don't like WoS, and I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. I'm pretty sure xatalos is town. I'm unsure about vayne.. I don't like him by any stretch of the imagination but he seems too bold voting me first...I don't know, he may be scum still. Abenson hasn't posted much...like at all. I can't really read him based on his posts in thread but he certainly looks like scum to me for quietly hopping on the bandwagon to vote me without saying anything.

So essentially...glorified OMGUS, and he's voting me based on that and what might be a shitty gutread. Cool story brehhhh.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 07:20 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:15 geript wrote:
True I did have to NK you that game. So other than Vayne, who's the best lynch? You down for lynching Dandel too? I'm pretty tempted by Rayn as well.

I'd be down for a rayn lynch since he defended his scumbuddy WoS.

WoS I don't have a real read on yet. But I'm not happy with how he didn't make a response to my luv tunnel comment. He normally would joke back at that.

Rayn is not acting all towny rayn and acting far more like Hydra 2 just getting in the way.

This is literally the only reason I found for Geript to me voting me.

Something fishhyyyy going on. And I don't think it's Geript.





EVERYTHING else has been sarcasm/joking/talking about other games/trying to get people to bandwagon me/etc. I'll skip the first post because it's only arguably substantial. I mean, the other two are somewhat large posts (mostly because of the quotes) but all he really says is

-quote- "This is some scummy shit, yo. Like....it's true, but it's such a 'Hey guys, let's be iirends' way of saying it. Also kind of funny is he says he doesn't see any scumtells yet calls everyone scummy. Wat."


Which doesn't really say anything either. He is obviously wanting to get people against me at this point but isn't willing to come straight out and say I'm scum. And even what he's saying isn't that substantial...he missed what I was saying.



"-quote-
So essentially...glorified OMGUS, and he's voting me based on that and what might be a shitty gutread. Cool story brehhhh.
-quote-
This is literally the only reason I found for Geript to me voting me.

Something fishhyyyy going on. And I don't think it's Geript."


Don't you see it? HE'S NOT SAYING ANYTHING. He skips over everything I said and said "lol so ur calling me bad. ur scum" And he's not speculating on anything either, he's just saying "wow this is fishy! 2 people are voting me!" He hasn't made any post that says anything.

This is every single post. He hasn't really done anything this whole game except say I'm scum. And I'm not scum. So the fact that he's focusing every single post on me is more than a little fishy for me.


Hmm. Well, definitely WoS is being too wishy-washy and non-contributive for my liking. Maybe it's just that I tunneled him all D1 in my previous game (PTP) for much worse stuff (mindless sheeping, flip-flopping on his opinions etc.) and he was town, so that might be the case again this game (him being a scummy-looking townie). At the very least this post makes you look better yourself.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 07 2013 16:25 GMT
#486
On July 08 2013 01:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah because clearly the strongest advocate for the biggest lynch wagon must be scum. Scum love to be the center of attention and troll and push their 'scumreads.'
K.

Anyway let me comment on some other stuff.
Dandel is much lurkier as scum than town so mabes keep an eye on him. He tends not to give a shit about anything at all which is certainly evident thus far.

As far as another lurker lynch I don't like it. There are WAAAYYY too many people who fit that description at this time and while I'd agree that there must be scum amongst them right now, it's basically a crapshoot and I don't know what our odds look like.

Who is who thought Onegu might be scum? From watching his newbie games I'm pretty sure I could pick him out so let me have a look.


Well, those are some good points as well. I think that Onegu might be a better lynch than either you or johnnywup atm. So yeah, please take a look
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 07 2013 16:28 GMT
#487
On July 08 2013 01:19 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 01:09 Xatalos wrote:
On July 08 2013 00:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
johnny is probably town, get your votes off him. Maju for example is far better target, and if you can't tell me what's wrong with my Chezinu-analysis you should be obviously voting for him.


Honestly, I'd say that him flipping scum wouldn't surprise me. That nuke was insane as either alignment but makes slightly more sense as scum. Still, there are so many shady characters in the thread right now that I'm inclined to lynch one of them. Chezinu should reveal himself as scum more easily as the game continues (given his apparently careless play).



They could both be town or both be scum launching positve nuke, xatalos has already posted he is immune to certain types of nukes, what if he gets a buff if hit with that type of nuke. The second only applies if both are scum, but if it is a straight up buff nuke why not claim it?


Buff nuke? Are there such nukes? Well, anything is possible I guess. Do you honestly believe we're both scum and he's just trying to buff me like this though? If not, why speculate about it? There are many more useful topics out there right now, after all.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 07 2013 16:31 GMT
#488
Yeah, johnny probably town at this point but I'm not sure how much that helps us. I'd bet there is 1 MAYBE 2 scum voting him right now.
As for Onegu:
I have a little something pre-written up on him but I'm going to sit on it a bit.

Onegu, do you have any nukes? If you had one (or do have one) who would you nuke right now and why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 16:32 GMT
#489
On July 08 2013 01:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There's 5 people voting me right now. Since I'm town, there's probably 2-3 scum voting for me and 2-3 misguided townies. Among the people who voted for me, I think WoS, TanGeng are the most scummy. I've already said why I don't like WoS, and I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. I'm pretty sure xatalos is town. I'm unsure about vayne.. I don't like him by any stretch of the imagination but he seems too bold voting me first...I don't know, he may be scum still. Abenson hasn't posted much...like at all. I can't really read him based on his posts in thread but he certainly looks like scum to me for quietly hopping on the bandwagon to vote me without saying anything.

So if I were to say whos townie and whos scum out of those 5 I'd say Xatalos and Vayne are town and the other 3 are scum, but I need more to go on from Abenson but he really hasn't given me a good first impression.


This part of Johnny's post mirrors my thoughts on the people voting for him like 100%. Only thing i disagree to some extent is that WoS is the scummiest of those people.

Rayn you really believe that half the scumteam jumped on the Whoops Wagon this early when half the thread is lurking and it's just as easy for them to hide? You say Johnny is town, why? Just because his post mirrors your thoughts?

First of all, what do you mean by half of the scumteam? Do you know how many scum there are? How?
Second, yes, i think johnny is town because his thoughts mirror mine. And because his posting feels genuine and not restricted in any way.
Third, (as Xata asked) i'm not sure if you (WoS) are scum or not. I know you are capable of good scumplay and you havn't provided us much, only new/lurker lynches. What's that? Can you give your opinion to my post about Chezinu? Why not lynch Maju? What separates him from Johnny?

Also i do not think Abenson is mafia.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 07 2013 16:36 GMT
#490
Don't get on me about the number of scum. I hate that shit--- it's a fucking mafia tactic since in almost every case the number of scum is known simply by how many players total there are in the game. 25 players = 5 scum so I'd bet with 27 players there'd still be 5. You said your thoughts mirror his and he said 2-3 scum are on his wagon, hence half the scumteam. 'Do you know something we don't? How do you know how many scum there are?" Come on Rayn, this isn't my first fucking rodeo.

I'll look over Chez again and your post but if you'd recall I already commented on how this play is extremely similar to his scumplay in LX; it's probably a little too early to tell though.

As far as Maju, why the fuck would I vote him if I said I didn't advocate a lurker lynch? At least Johnny had some actual content to look at.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 07 2013 16:36 GMT
#491
On July 08 2013 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah, johnny probably town at this point but I'm not sure how much that helps us. I'd bet there is 1 MAYBE 2 scum voting him right now.
As for Onegu:
I have a little something pre-written up on him but I'm going to sit on it a bit.

Onegu, do you have any nukes? If you had one (or do have one) who would you nuke right now and why?

No I dont have a nuke, if I did I wouldnt launch day 1 though, but if I was forced to I would kill chez, as he refused to answer any relevant questions and I think he is either maf or 3p.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 07 2013 16:39 GMT
#492
On July 08 2013 01:36 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah, johnny probably town at this point but I'm not sure how much that helps us. I'd bet there is 1 MAYBE 2 scum voting him right now.
As for Onegu:
I have a little something pre-written up on him but I'm going to sit on it a bit.

Onegu, do you have any nukes? If you had one (or do have one) who would you nuke right now and why?

No I dont have a nuke, if I did I wouldnt launch day 1 though, but if I was forced to I would kill chez, as he refused to answer any relevant questions and I think he is either maf or 3p.

What if he is mafia or 3p with a 'buff' ability like you said? Would you be worried about that?
What kind of nukes do you think are possible in a game like this and what kind of other abilities?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 07 2013 16:40 GMT
#493
On July 08 2013 01:28 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 01:19 Onegu wrote:
On July 08 2013 01:09 Xatalos wrote:
On July 08 2013 00:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
johnny is probably town, get your votes off him. Maju for example is far better target, and if you can't tell me what's wrong with my Chezinu-analysis you should be obviously voting for him.


Honestly, I'd say that him flipping scum wouldn't surprise me. That nuke was insane as either alignment but makes slightly more sense as scum. Still, there are so many shady characters in the thread right now that I'm inclined to lynch one of them. Chezinu should reveal himself as scum more easily as the game continues (given his apparently careless play).



They could both be town or both be scum launching positve nuke, xatalos has already posted he is immune to certain types of nukes, what if he gets a buff if hit with that type of nuke. The second only applies if both are scum, but if it is a straight up buff nuke why not claim it?


Buff nuke? Are there such nukes? Well, anything is possible I guess. Do you honestly believe we're both scum and he's just trying to buff me like this though? If not, why speculate about it? There are many more useful topics out there right now, after all.


Why not speculate it is something to think about.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 07 2013 16:48 GMT
#494
On July 08 2013 01:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 01:36 Onegu wrote:
On July 08 2013 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah, johnny probably town at this point but I'm not sure how much that helps us. I'd bet there is 1 MAYBE 2 scum voting him right now.
As for Onegu:
I have a little something pre-written up on him but I'm going to sit on it a bit.

Onegu, do you have any nukes? If you had one (or do have one) who would you nuke right now and why?

No I dont have a nuke, if I did I wouldnt launch day 1 though, but if I was forced to I would kill chez, as he refused to answer any relevant questions and I think he is either maf or 3p.

What if he is mafia or 3p with a 'buff' ability like you said? Would you be worried about that?
What kind of nukes do you think are possible in a game like this and what kind of other abilities?


Ok first if he is maf I doubt he has a nuke to buff, he may have a type of nuke that xata is immune to though. I think radiation will be a factor in this game either positive or negitive. And people will have abilities based on this side effect.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 07 2013 17:06 GMT
#495
Even if johnny does flip town, there's been a lot of decent discussion on it so it gives us a bit to work with as a day 1 lynch.

Given how easy the bandwagon was, I would look at the people defending him for absolutely zero reason if he flips town. Scum tryin' to get dat town cred.

On the same token we can also analyze the people that are saying one thing and lynching john on the other once the flip occurs.

If he flips scum, then there's not much to say. Rayn is probably town if he flips scum for being just about the only person to defend him.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 07 2013 17:06 GMT
#496
One thing to think about since Chezinu seemed to hint at that he was coerced into launching a nuke.

We could either be dealing with a character that must launch a nuke every day.
A second alternative is that certain nukes are ticking time bombs.

The strange thing about Chezinu is that there haven't been any really helpful comments coming from the player. Maybe, there's 3rd parties with strange objectives or strange abilities?

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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 07 2013 17:28 GMT
#497
Are you fucking serious? -_-
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 07 2013 17:29 GMT
#498
Elaborate, MZ.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 07 2013 17:32 GMT
#499
On July 08 2013 02:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Elaborate, MZ.

I had wanted to play this game for longer than a day.
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WaveofShadow
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July 07 2013 17:37 GMT
#500
Oh right you were nuked.
Since people seemed to advocate not freaking out trying to save Xat, what do you think people should do regarding yoiu?
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