doesnt look like it would have mattered if calgar is the mafia anyway, seems sugarfluff is mia. I still think calgar is the last mafia! either way fun game all.

Sugarfluff

Sweden132 Posts

May 14 2013 22:28 GMT

#487

On May 15 2013 06:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
doesnt look like it would have mattered if calgar is the mafia anyway, seems sugarfluff is mia. I still think calgar is the last mafia! either way fun game all.

I was pretty confident in Calgar too, but he has been so inflexible. You have kept yourself more open, I think, to be able to vote for whoever suited you. Calgar was also the first to vote for Casey, he did not actually follow spicy. With all the suspicions going around it wouldn't have been weird at all for him to vote for me, argue for it, and potentially switch if spicy didn't agree. Why take the risk of eliminating your comrade when the suspicion could so easily be turned, right? Vayne, you did mention that you found me scummier but didn't go through with it when shit started rolling down on Casey.

Just based on the last posts I have concluded that Vayne ought to be the scum. As such I am voting for him. Let's hope I'm right, so that I get to say: I was right.

calgar

United States1277 Posts

May 15 2013 02:02 GMT

#488

MERP!

gg

thanks to marvellosity for answering all my questions!

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 15 2013 02:05 GMT

#489

Endgame

The last day of elections drew to a close. Phagga firmly grasped the Rusty spoon of vengeance. He sat down at the table in the center of town and began to eat. At first he began dining off of his opponent's plate eating the whole Boston Kreme Doughnut the he ripped open Sugarfluff aka Honeycomb the vanilla townie, covered him in the Creamy Milk of Justice and ate him on spoonful at a time.

Sugarfluff the vanilla townie has been lynched.
VayneAuthority the vanilla townie has been end-gamed.
Aquanim has been randomly poisoned.

Calgar the mafia goon has survived.

Mafia vicotry!

Congrats to eSpi.Casey, Calgar, and Targe!

Thanks to everyone for playing!

Special thanks to geript and phagga for hosting and kush4sta, goodkarma, Adam4167, Mr. Cheesecake and marvellosity for coaching!

Links:
Google Doc
Obs QT
Mafia QT

Geript has offered to write up a short summary tonight.

eSpi.Casey

Norway54 Posts

May 15 2013 02:08 GMT

#490

Good game everyone :D

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

May 15 2013 02:09 GMT

#491

figured as much, gg all. knew I had him pegged when I found that post.

iamperfection

United States9645 Posts

May 15 2013 02:11 GMT

#492

mod kills are op need nerf

Blazinghand

United States25553 Posts

May 15 2013 03:33 GMT

#493

you guys should sign up for chinese grammar micro mafia. it's a voice game happening in like 16 hours and it's gonna be awesome. one slot is open! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=412432

jampidampi

Finland386 Posts

May 15 2013 04:17 GMT

#494

Nailed two of three scum night one

getmoript

1016 Posts

May 15 2013 04:32 GMT

#495

Day 1 Points:
1. Your posts should be one of the following: A--substance, B--pressuring players to create information, C--disrupting the thread (if scum). "I'll post more later" does none of the above and just shouldn't be done. Just don't do it. It's fine IMO to make a small post saying that you'll be out of action for the first half of the day, but only to let people know. Such posts shouldn't be treated as content and people shouldn't try to defend themselves with their IRL schedule. Going over who's going to come back or hasn't or isn't etc. is a complete waste of time. It's fine to pressure lurkers for lurking and lynch them if they refuse to contribute, but focusing on how much presence a lurker has or doesn't have is a waste of time and energy.
2. Vote counts are important. + Show Spoiler +

DAY ONE FINAL VOTE COUNT:

Sugarfluff (1) ~~nobodywonder~~, ~~jampidampi~~, calgar

Flowcaster (0) ~~Targe~~, ~~SpicyDinosaur~~, ~~eSpi.Casey~~

VayneAuthority (1) ~~nobodywonder~~, shirokami

Targe (3) VayneAuthority, JarJarDrinks, Spicydinosaur, ~~jrkirby~~

JarJarDrinks (5) Sugarfluff, Targe, jampidampi, nobodywonder, eSpi.Casey

jampidampi (0) ~~JarJarDrinks~~

nobodywonder (0) ~~jrkirby~~

No Lynch (1) jrkirby

Not Voting (1): FloWcaster

Scum notoriously split up day 1 votes but considering the town lynch, you can expect that there's a reasonable shot of 2 scum being on the mislynch wagon. When scum were kind enough to kill jampidampij N1, people should've taken a very good hard look at Sugar, Targe, NW and espi. You should always be examining players who are on a mislynch to measure if they had good reasoning to be on said wagon. IIRC both Targe and espi were on JJD only and solely for 'consolidation.' They really should've been the focus for day 2.
3. When a townie dies, you should ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS go back and read their filter. Read who they suspect, read who they thought was town, etc. Don't follow them blindly, but it's information that you know you can trust source as being honest. JJD's end of day post was for the most part ignored and somehow Targe got off on D2.
4. Activity. As town, you should always be forcing people to be active. You should always be pressuring players. D1 was about 8 pages long; you should IMO aim to pressure players to produce 1 page of filter per day/night cycle. The fact that there were only 8 pages produced in 24 hours is exceptionally bad for town because it's such a dearth of information to draw conclusion from. You need to be active as both town and scum, but town really needed to force more activity.

Day 2 stuff:
1. Jampi was a solid NK he was active and obv town; good hit. Town should have followed up on his reads more and didn't.
2. Again very low activity on the whole. You need to pressure players.
3. Vote count stuff. + Show Spoiler +

VOTE COUNT:

Targe (3) AllHailHydraGod, Spicydinosaur, VayneAuthority

eSpi.Casey (0) ~~VayneAuthority~~

jrkirby (0) ~~eSpi.Casey~~, ~~shirokami~~

shirokami (5) calgar, Targe, sugarfluff, eSpi.Casey, shirokami

VayneAuthority (0) ~~shirokami~~

Not Voting: jrkirby, nobodywonder

Deadline has been reached. shirokami will be lynched

If you see your vote (or anyone else') out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it.

The important thing here is look at the list:
JarJarDrinks (5) Sugarfluff, Targe, jampidampi, nobodywonder, eSpi.Casey
shirokami (5) calgar, Targe, sugarfluff, eSpi.Casey, shirokami
The lists share 3 names: Sugar, Targe and eSpi. Between the vote count AND their action in the thread, these guys should be the center of attention for the next cycle. The real problem is that these guys have slid by completely to this point so by not forcing them to be active, then you can't nail them to the wall.

TL;DR
Be active and try to produce a least 1 page of filter minimum per day/night cycle
Have a clear reasoning for everything you post.

Targe

United Kingdom14103 Posts

May 15 2013 07:54 GMT

#496

Wooooooo!

Aquanim

Australia2849 Posts

May 15 2013 09:00 GMT

#497

X_X

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

May 15 2013 09:13 GMT

#498

Well done mafia <3

AllHailHydraGod

80 Posts

May 15 2013 09:15 GMT

#499

jrkirby

United States1510 Posts

May 19 2013 06:01 GMT

#500

I feel I have to say I'm sorry. My personal life got unexpectedly busy, and it took a higher priority than mafia. I wish I had had the time like I expected, but I did not. I understand this was a shitty thing to do, as I kinda ruined a game for 11 other people. This was entirely my fault. As role cop I might have been able to turn this around, but I didn't, and I apologize. Not much more I can say.

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