• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:13
CEST 20:13
KST 03:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League21Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.162Rollback Netcode in Brood War1245.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0
StarCraft 2
General
Server Blocker Best Cryptocurrency Recovery Company To Recover Terran AddOns placement SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War GG Lan Fest Sofia, Bulgaria [this November] [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos [Recap] Hive ZvZ in MonstarZ vs Dreams [ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League 2v2v2v2 Tournament Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread The Chess Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10615 users

Aperture Mafia - Page 25

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 136 Next
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
March 17 2012 15:34 GMT
#481
On March 18 2012 00:30 Hassybaby wrote:
Veli, according to Draz, he's got limitations on his dayvig involving items. So I don't know how well we'll be able to control it.

I think it would be a good idea to KILL him at some point, lynch or otherwise, so we can see what everything he says is true. But right now, I'd like to focus on other aspects like the election. We still have over 24 hours, and a lot of people have yet to say anything, so I think waiting will be better

Well, if he's limited by items then we don't need to kill him. It'll be easy enough to tell if he's lying if someone gets consumed by shadow and flame again without anyone having given him an item.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 17 2012 15:37 GMT
#482
On March 18 2012 00:33 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 00:30 Jayjay54 wrote:
I think Draz is bullshitting. The "I need 5 items" condition makes no sense as balrog. It's completely random.

Draz refers to this old Balrog fake claim and adds another random condition to it.

So they took an old fake role as a gag, implemented it here and were like "yea he needs more stuff".

You also claim to have restrictions on your KP item wise. Also completely nonsense for flavour (balrog doesn't need shit to kill).

I still think he might be sleeper cell or even scum (who didn't intend to claim until he knew he hit third).

Overall, draz, you are a perfect day 1 lynch. At worst (in case you weren't bullshitting), we lose a third party who wants to kill a townie and looks for items, which is still OK from town perspective. At best, me nail a lanch at scum or sleeper.

Sounds like a plan to me.

##vote Drazerk


Except for the fact I can't kill for a while and you will be controlling the kill while I wait for scum to kill gandalf for me?


I am not voting you, because of that. I am voting you, because I don't buy your role.

Balrog who is resembling an old fake claim, but is now suddenly obsessed with items in addition.

yea right.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 17 2012 15:38 GMT
#483
On March 18 2012 00:34 Velinath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 00:30 Hassybaby wrote:
Veli, according to Draz, he's got limitations on his dayvig involving items. So I don't know how well we'll be able to control it.

I think it would be a good idea to KILL him at some point, lynch or otherwise, so we can see what everything he says is true. But right now, I'd like to focus on other aspects like the election. We still have over 24 hours, and a lot of people have yet to say anything, so I think waiting will be better

Well, if he's limited by items then we don't need to kill him. It'll be easy enough to tell if he's lying if someone gets consumed by shadow and flame again without anyone having given him an item.


yea, that'll help. Because he can't at no point say "Hey I received an item". That's totally a prove.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 17 2012 15:42 GMT
#484
On March 18 2012 00:37 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 00:33 Drazerk wrote:
On March 18 2012 00:30 Jayjay54 wrote:
I think Draz is bullshitting. The "I need 5 items" condition makes no sense as balrog. It's completely random.

Draz refers to this old Balrog fake claim and adds another random condition to it.

So they took an old fake role as a gag, implemented it here and were like "yea he needs more stuff".

You also claim to have restrictions on your KP item wise. Also completely nonsense for flavour (balrog doesn't need shit to kill).

I still think he might be sleeper cell or even scum (who didn't intend to claim until he knew he hit third).

Overall, draz, you are a perfect day 1 lynch. At worst (in case you weren't bullshitting), we lose a third party who wants to kill a townie and looks for items, which is still OK from town perspective. At best, me nail a lanch at scum or sleeper.

Sounds like a plan to me.

##vote Drazerk


Except for the fact I can't kill for a while and you will be controlling the kill while I wait for scum to kill gandalf for me?


I am not voting you, because of that. I am voting you, because I don't buy your role.

Balrog who is resembling an old fake claim, but is now suddenly obsessed with items in addition.

yea right.


I just want to get back to middle earth through the rift using items

Also the whole point of the game is that it is a collection of roles from multiple game and with Igrok as a co host it makes perfect sense for it to be in the game and due to the epic relationship me and balrog had in LOTR it makes sense for me to have received it as payback.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
March 17 2012 15:43 GMT
#485
On March 18 2012 00:38 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 00:34 Velinath wrote:
On March 18 2012 00:30 Hassybaby wrote:
Veli, according to Draz, he's got limitations on his dayvig involving items. So I don't know how well we'll be able to control it.

I think it would be a good idea to KILL him at some point, lynch or otherwise, so we can see what everything he says is true. But right now, I'd like to focus on other aspects like the election. We still have over 24 hours, and a lot of people have yet to say anything, so I think waiting will be better

Well, if he's limited by items then we don't need to kill him. It'll be easy enough to tell if he's lying if someone gets consumed by shadow and flame again without anyone having given him an item.


yea, that'll help. Because he can't at no point say "Hey I received an item". That's totally a prove.

Was this sarcasm? It reads like sarcasm, but it's really hard to tell with just text.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 17 2012 15:43 GMT
#486
On March 18 2012 00:38 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 00:34 Velinath wrote:
On March 18 2012 00:30 Hassybaby wrote:
Veli, according to Draz, he's got limitations on his dayvig involving items. So I don't know how well we'll be able to control it.

I think it would be a good idea to KILL him at some point, lynch or otherwise, so we can see what everything he says is true. But right now, I'd like to focus on other aspects like the election. We still have over 24 hours, and a lot of people have yet to say anything, so I think waiting will be better

Well, if he's limited by items then we don't need to kill him. It'll be easy enough to tell if he's lying if someone gets consumed by shadow and flame again without anyone having given him an item.


yea, that'll help. Because he can't at no point say "Hey I received an item". That's totally a prove.


Only ways you can get an item is the following

Kill someone
Lynch someone
Get given it

Naturally I would only get an item through lynching in which case I would own up to it because you already know my kill flavour T_T
Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 17 2012 15:46 GMT
#487
@Grack


On March 17 2012 11:44 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 11:31 gonzaw wrote:
On March 17 2012 11:25 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 17 2012 11:14 gonzaw wrote:
@Grackaroni

So why do you think I even have an item?

No role related reason. Just a random thought.


Ehmm, that's not ramdom at all.

If it was indeed a random thought, what was the purpose of posting it?

I was trying to make it a little less obvious but sticking to my transparency.
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 08:48 gonzaw wrote:

Fact: Lemons contain traces of potassium sulfate.


I want my lemons


Why is it that people keep bringing up this lemon thing?!

Couple things:
1) I don't think we should be trusting Draz at all. It sounds chaotic. And I'm on board with JayJay's reasoning.
2) Can we try to cut down on spam?
3) Who is realistically going to running for Wheatley... everyone seems to just have random votes for themselves....
In my opinion.. I think a lot of people who are 'vouching' for other people make me extremely nervous. This indicates that they probably have some kind of connection that we don't know about? This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but rather something that needs to be considered when electing someone..

I imagine we must have a role that does some sort of protection. If Wheatly gets elected, the person should be transparent, tell us what it is, and if we have protection abilities, we can just use it on him?? Or is that too simple?
Check out 'Gamer Therapy'!! 10CST: twitch.tv/Maverick32x
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
March 17 2012 15:47 GMT
#488
Because I am a lemon too.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
March 17 2012 15:48 GMT
#489
Maverick, I believe Kenpachi, Blazinghand, and myself are legitimately running for Wheatley.
Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 17 2012 15:49 GMT
#490
On March 18 2012 00:43 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 00:38 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 18 2012 00:34 Velinath wrote:
On March 18 2012 00:30 Hassybaby wrote:
Veli, according to Draz, he's got limitations on his dayvig involving items. So I don't know how well we'll be able to control it.

I think it would be a good idea to KILL him at some point, lynch or otherwise, so we can see what everything he says is true. But right now, I'd like to focus on other aspects like the election. We still have over 24 hours, and a lot of people have yet to say anything, so I think waiting will be better

Well, if he's limited by items then we don't need to kill him. It'll be easy enough to tell if he's lying if someone gets consumed by shadow and flame again without anyone having given him an item.


yea, that'll help. Because he can't at no point say "Hey I received an item". That's totally a prove.


Only ways you can get an item is the following

Kill someone
Lynch someone
Get given it

Naturally I would only get an item through lynching in which case I would own up to it because you already know my kill flavour T_T


I hate getting bogged down into this circular discussion, but the reality is that none of us really know your role or your alignment.

Somehow we are all convinced he is Balrog also, which we really don't know either...
Check out 'Gamer Therapy'!! 10CST: twitch.tv/Maverick32x
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 17 2012 15:49 GMT
#491
You want to use items to get back? Sorry. Just no.

Also, that was sarcasm.

Draz can at any point claim he got given an item. Now what? No one claims to have given an item.

draz: can you only kill when you get an item?
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 17 2012 15:50 GMT
#492
On March 18 2012 00:48 Velinath wrote:
Maverick, I believe Kenpachi, Blazinghand, and myself are legitimately running for Wheatley.



Now okay, all of those are people that I would never pick for this election... And I know there are more people than that who put their name in.. so why pick you 3?
Check out 'Gamer Therapy'!! 10CST: twitch.tv/Maverick32x
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 17 2012 15:52 GMT
#493
On March 18 2012 00:49 Jayjay54 wrote:
You want to use items to get back? Sorry. Just no.

Also, that was sarcasm.

Draz can at any point claim he got given an item. Now what? No one claims to have given an item.

draz: can you only kill when you get an item?


I am going to laugh at you when I flip

I am done arguing with you and defending myself we concentrate on what is important now which is the election and a real lynch we are not discussing myself any more.

And I can not discuss just know my kill and win con are both related to items
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
March 17 2012 15:52 GMT
#494
Hey Drazerk, why did you want to make town elect velinath, because you believed he was 3rd party. When you claimed that your win condition before was just to survive and win with town?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 17 2012 15:54 GMT
#495
On March 18 2012 00:52 Grackaroni wrote:
Hey Drazerk, why did you want to make town elect velinath, because you believed he was 3rd party. When you claimed that your win condition before was just to survive and win with town?


over powered blues with additional powers why wouldn't you want that?
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 17 2012 15:54 GMT
#496
On March 18 2012 00:50 Maverick32x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 00:48 Velinath wrote:
Maverick, I believe Kenpachi, Blazinghand, and myself are legitimately running for Wheatley.



Now okay, all of those are people that I would never pick for this election... And I know there are more people than that who put their name in.. so why pick you 3?


Gonzaw was the fourth, and that's it I think. I think he was left out of the list because he openly admitted he will lie if the superpower was interesting enough. Judging by how this game is going, something tells me it will be interesting, so I can't see how anyone can trust his as Wheatley
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
March 17 2012 15:55 GMT
#497
Just my thoughts on the Wheatly role:

I'm not ever going to trust Wheatly. IIRC, Wheatly screws over Chell in Portal 2 by taking control of Aperture, despite his best intentions. I can see this going the same way. Wheatly begins the game by helping the town, then gets a new wincon where he has to kill us all or something.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Dirk Hardpec
Profile Joined March 2012
United States73 Posts
March 17 2012 15:56 GMT
#498
No matter how much I think about it, Drazerk's successful shooting says nothing about his alignment. It is a reasonable approach for almost every faction except for town, and town is the faction most prone to take unreasonable approaches to the game.

What I find more interesting is the fact that he claims to be third party. No matter how you look at it, the only faction I can possibly think of benefitting from being thought of as third party is mafia. It is strictly inefficient for town to be thought of as third party as that will lead to an eventual lynch of that person, you cannot go into situation where one lynch will lose the game carrying a claimed third party on your back. This is however perfectly acceptable for someone who just wants to extend his life cycle for a while, ie: mafia.

I guess it is also possible that he is indeed a third party and is trying to make an alliance with us, but it seems very unlikely as most third parties tend to be at severe disadvantage when they get figured out.

In sense, it makes no sense from a balance standpoint to create a third party in a game, and then make it possible for us to leave that third party alive, might as well be town then.

This is why I don't believe his claim, I think Drazerk is scum and I want to lynch him. I guess I can't say I disbelieve his role claim as the flavor fits, however I do disbelieve his alignment claim.

##Vote Drazerk
How this goes?
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 17 2012 15:56 GMT
#499
On March 18 2012 00:54 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 00:52 Grackaroni wrote:
Hey Drazerk, why did you want to make town elect velinath, because you believed he was 3rd party. When you claimed that your win condition before was just to survive and win with town?


over powered blues with additional powers why wouldn't you want that?


ok and why don't you want that now with your new wincon?
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
March 17 2012 16:02 GMT
#500
On March 18 2012 00:56 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
No matter how much I think about it, Drazerk's successful shooting says nothing about his alignment. It is a reasonable approach for almost every faction except for town, and town is the faction most prone to take unreasonable approaches to the game.

##Vote Drazerk


I think it atleast tells us he isn't a sleepercell dude who doesn't know who his mates are.
So he is town or scum with big cojones.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 136 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
AI Arena Tournament
01:00
Swiss - Round 6
Laughngamez YouTube
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
BRAT_OK 57
EmSc Tv 18
MindelVK 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 20882
Horang2 563
Shuttle 524
BeSt 346
White-Ra 144
Dewaltoss 115
Mind 64
910 54
sorry 53
HiyA 51
[ Show more ]
scan(afreeca) 26
Sacsri 25
Barracks 21
soO 13
Dota 2
qojqva2599
canceldota127
League of Legends
JimRising 84
Counter-Strike
fl0m4834
Other Games
summit1g5166
Grubby1953
Mlord901
FrodaN760
Cr1tdota693
B2W.Neo669
byalli623
Beastyqt556
Khaldor508
Liquid`Hasu247
KnowMe151
crisheroes148
Fuzer 41
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick712
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 18
EmSc2Tv 18
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 67
• StrangeGG 61
• Adnapsc2 39
• 3DClanTV 32
• Response 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Airneanach45
• Michael_bg 10
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4968
League of Legends
• Nemesis2550
• Jankos1842
Other Games
• Shiphtur621
• imaqtpie314
Upcoming Events
BSL Open Qualifier
47m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
15h 47m
OSC
18h 47m
IPSL
21h 47m
BSL Open Qualifier
1d
WardiTV Weekly
1d 16h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
FEL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HCC Season 3
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.