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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 07 2013 14:09 GMT
#461
You? I have no idea, this is really my first time reading the thread. Trying to catch up.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 07 2013 14:59 GMT
#462
On July 07 2013 21:36 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 20:12 Xatalos wrote:
I agree that it's too early to call me or gumshoe "supertown" for some small early-game posts. But at least there's a logical reason here, so I'm not bothered about raynpelikoneet's early posts anymore. What I AM a bit bothered about is his admittance that your early pressure on him wasn't scummy after all, yet hesitating on saying how that affects his scumread on you. Why the weird reluctance? Well, I'm leaning town on him now anyway, so it's nothing too major.

Btw geript, johnnywup doesn't appear scummy at all to you?

Meh, I went back and read through LXI and PYP. I'm not all ready to be lovey dovey with Rayn, but I'm ok with him for now.

Not really. Seems more likely to be town by how fast he picked up some votes especially for pretty weak reasoning. I'm going to go with "too stupid to be scum." I mean, I'd love to have him be scum instead of my wubbybumpkin WoS, but I like WoS as scum far far more.

Of course you do, luv muffin.
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 07 2013 14:59 GMT
#463
Okay, caught up reading since last night and reread some filters. A couple things:

andel Ion said he's going to stop posting during dayphase which is pretty stupid. I mean, of course an excuse to not post is scummy as hell but I don't think he would be stupid enough to do that if he was scum >_>

*I'd like him, Ghost_403, Oatsmaster, Stutters695, Z-Boson, Abenson, MajuGarzett, Strongandbig, gumshoe (he has posted a bit...but not about the game at hand...), CaucasianAsian, Nirvana.Gabo, FirmTofu all to start posting more. They haven't really given us any content to go off of. And that's like half the people in the game...

*I'm not sure what to think about Chezinu's nuke and it makes no sense to me, so I'm not going to try to make sense of it for now.

Oh crap, I just noticed Abenson voted me without saying in thread >_>. Would you like to give your reasons? You have given no indication of any opinion at all in this thread. I'd like you to tell me what you think about everyone.

There's 5 people voting me right now. Since I'm town, there's probably 2-3 scum voting for me and 2-3 misguided townies. Among the people who voted for me, I think WoS, TanGeng are the most scummy. I've already said why I don't like WoS, and I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. I'm pretty sure xatalos is town. I'm unsure about vayne.. I don't like him by any stretch of the imagination but he seems too bold voting me first...I don't know, he may be scum still. Abenson hasn't posted much...like at all. I can't really read him based on his posts in thread but he certainly looks like scum to me for quietly hopping on the bandwagon to vote me without saying anything.

So if I were to say whos townie and whos scum out of those 5 I'd say Xatalos and Vayne are town and the other 3 are scum, but I need more to go on from Abenson but he really hasn't given me a good first impression.

I've felt pretty strongly about WoS being scum since last night so I'm going to go ahead and put my vote there

##vote WaveofShadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 07 2013 15:04 GMT
#464
You know what's funny?
Both of the people voting for me currently have provided absolutely zero reasoning as to why I'm scum.
On July 07 2013 10:42 johnnywup wrote:
I now remember why I stopped playing mafia, lol. Sorry if I look like scum, I haven't played in a looong time and even then I was terrible and always looked scummy as town.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 10:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
ALL ABOARD THE TRAIN OF JUSTICE
WOO WOOOOOOO!!!
##Vote: johnnywup

Why wait until two others voted me to vote me? You already thought I was scum.

I really do think vayne is scummy atm though. Nothing productive at all. (say what you want about me but you can't deny that vayne hasn't done shit). Look through his filter. I don't know if he's just lazy/bad town or purposefully doing nothing but not liking him :\

WoS is also not looking very good for me atm but I can't really put a finger to why. His sarcasm is questionable for me and obviously I don't like him voting for me (don't like anyone voting for me though, obviously). The only constructive post he has is the one that targets me, which is good, but for the rest of his filter he's sarcastic, talking about other games, etc. I don't know.


There's 5 people voting me right now. Since I'm town, there's probably 2-3 scum voting for me and 2-3 misguided townies. Among the people who voted for me, I think WoS, TanGeng are the most scummy. I've already said why I don't like WoS, and I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. I'm pretty sure xatalos is town. I'm unsure about vayne.. I don't like him by any stretch of the imagination but he seems too bold voting me first...I don't know, he may be scum still. Abenson hasn't posted much...like at all. I can't really read him based on his posts in thread but he certainly looks like scum to me for quietly hopping on the bandwagon to vote me without saying anything.

So essentially...glorified OMGUS, and he's voting me based on that and what might be a shitty gutread. Cool story brehhhh.

On July 07 2013 07:20 geript wrote:
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On July 07 2013 07:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:15 geript wrote:
True I did have to NK you that game. So other than Vayne, who's the best lynch? You down for lynching Dandel too? I'm pretty tempted by Rayn as well.

I'd be down for a rayn lynch since he defended his scumbuddy WoS.

WoS I don't have a real read on yet. But I'm not happy with how he didn't make a response to my luv tunnel comment. He normally would joke back at that.

Rayn is not acting all towny rayn and acting far more like Hydra 2 just getting in the way.

This is literally the only reason I found for Geript to me voting me.

Something fishhyyyy going on. And I don't think it's Geript.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 07 2013 15:04 GMT
#465
Geript y u no vote Johnny?
He whoopsed to many times imo.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 07 2013 15:09 GMT
#466
Shitty gutread? Maybe. But at least I'm voting scum. You're trying to start a bandwagon on an obvious townie.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 07 2013 15:13 GMT
#467
On July 08 2013 00:09 johnnywup wrote:
Shitty gutread? Maybe. But at least I'm voting scum. You're trying to start a bandwagon on an obvious townie.


What are you smoking, all you've done is fling shit at wave and vayne and come up with a large wall of text basically saying OMGUS youve and like wave said you've never posted any actual reasons to why he is scum other than "Hes sarcastic" which is a piss poor reason in my opinion...

Please come up with an actual defense at some point not just screaming that you are the towniest town to ever town because you are clearly not the towniest town to ever town.

---------------------------------

Also the person who nuked M_Z is probably scum in my opinion...

+ Show Spoiler +
Remember kids day 1 nukes are bad yo.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 07 2013 15:14 GMT
#468
Oh before i forget ##Vote Johnnywup
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 07 2013 15:18 GMT
#469
Kanopy how many scum do you think have jumped aboard the Whoops Wagon thus far?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 07 2013 15:26 GMT
#470
I know I'm not very good at mafia. But what you need to understand is that NOTHING that I've done says scum over bad townie. I am a bad townie. I can see why I'm probably a good lynch for day 1. I can see why I'm being bandwagonned. It's because it's so easy for scum to tunnel bad townies.

If you can find something that I've done that screams scum over bad townie, go for my lynch (hint: there is none). I may be the best lynch even lacking that. But when I flip town (assuming I'm lynched), know that it was as much your fault as scum, townies, for following this bandwagon. Oh yeah, and WoS is the one who is trying to push it in a major way, more than anyone else.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 07 2013 15:27 GMT
#471
johnny is probably town, get your votes off him. Maju for example is far better target, and if you can't tell me what's wrong with my Chezinu-analysis you should be obviously voting for him.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 07 2013 15:29 GMT
#472
There's 5 people voting me right now. Since I'm town, there's probably 2-3 scum voting for me and 2-3 misguided townies. Among the people who voted for me, I think WoS, TanGeng are the most scummy. I've already said why I don't like WoS, and I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. I'm pretty sure xatalos is town. I'm unsure about vayne.. I don't like him by any stretch of the imagination but he seems too bold voting me first...I don't know, he may be scum still. Abenson hasn't posted much...like at all. I can't really read him based on his posts in thread but he certainly looks like scum to me for quietly hopping on the bandwagon to vote me without saying anything.

So if I were to say whos townie and whos scum out of those 5 I'd say Xatalos and Vayne are town and the other 3 are scum, but I need more to go on from Abenson but he really hasn't given me a good first impression.


This part of Johnny's post mirrors my thoughts on the people voting for him like 100%. Only thing i disagree to some extent is that WoS is the scummiest of those people.
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 07 2013 15:52 GMT
#473
geript, johnnywup, raynpelikoneet. Is there something concrete that makes WoS so scummy? No wishy-washy gutreads, just something that actually makes him scummy. Well, there can't be much evidence this early, but *something* to justify calling him so strongly scum.

Not moving my vote from johnnywup at this point, although I have to admit that the bandwagon feels to be going a bit too smoothly. And the ones resisting it are basically my townreads Well, there's still a lot of time to decide a possible better lynch, and at the very least this heavy pressure forces johnnywup to do something. Also indeed Abenson, why the heck would you stealth vote johnnywup?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 07 2013 15:57 GMT
#474
On July 07 2013 23:59 johnnywup wrote:
Okay, caught up reading since last night and reread some filters. A couple things:

andel Ion said he's going to stop posting during dayphase which is pretty stupid. I mean, of course an excuse to not post is scummy as hell but I don't think he would be stupid enough to do that if he was scum >_>

*I'd like him, Ghost_403, Oatsmaster, Stutters695, Z-Boson, Abenson, MajuGarzett, Strongandbig, gumshoe (he has posted a bit...but not about the game at hand...), CaucasianAsian, Nirvana.Gabo, FirmTofu all to start posting more. They haven't really given us any content to go off of. And that's like half the people in the game...

*I'm not sure what to think about Chezinu's nuke and it makes no sense to me, so I'm not going to try to make sense of it for now.

Oh crap, I just noticed Abenson voted me without saying in thread >_>. Would you like to give your reasons? You have given no indication of any opinion at all in this thread. I'd like you to tell me what you think about everyone.

There's 5 people voting me right now. Since I'm town, there's probably 2-3 scum voting for me and 2-3 misguided townies. Among the people who voted for me, I think WoS, TanGeng are the most scummy. I've already said why I don't like WoS, and I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. I'm pretty sure xatalos is town. I'm unsure about vayne.. I don't like him by any stretch of the imagination but he seems too bold voting me first...I don't know, he may be scum still. Abenson hasn't posted much...like at all. I can't really read him based on his posts in thread but he certainly looks like scum to me for quietly hopping on the bandwagon to vote me without saying anything.

So if I were to say whos townie and whos scum out of those 5 I'd say Xatalos and Vayne are town and the other 3 are scum, but I need more to go on from Abenson but he really hasn't given me a good first impression.

I've felt pretty strongly about WoS being scum since last night so I'm going to go ahead and put my vote there

##vote WaveofShadow


Hmm. Actually I pretty much agree with this post. Not just really sure where that strong scumread on WoS is coming from.

(Dandel Ion, start posting!!!)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 07 2013 16:02 GMT
#475
Maybe johnnywup should be allowed to live another day. Certainly Onegu, MajuGarzett, TanGeng and Abenson are looking bad, possibly worse than johnnywup, at the moment.

But why is WoS scum?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 07 2013 16:04 GMT
#476
On July 08 2013 00:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
Kanopy how many scum do you think have jumped aboard the Whoops Wagon thus far?


Regardless of alignment at least one is probably on there at the moment

I'm almost sure its one of the people who just jumped on there and left that are a part of it. I'm leaving my vote on there for now because the more pressure on whup the more defence we get and it is getting somewhat more coherent. In all likelyhood I'm going to move off him later this afternoon unless he really fucks up.

If we are going to push an alt lynch we should probably jump on one of those lurkers. Chezinu is a stupid D1 lynch atm in my opinion. This is for a variety of factors, how those nukes flip are likely going to be much better indicators then what we have to work with for now, I am completely alright with a day 2 chez lynch if it turns out to be a more valid idea.

I'm completely alright with shifting pressure votes onto some lurkers maybe shift over to Z-Boson and see if he actually does anything.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 07 2013 16:04 GMT
#477
Really disliking Dandel Ion's lurking as well, since he was so active in PTP as town. Would he really play this obviously different as scum though? Not sure. But it doesn't make a good impression of him being town at all.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 07 2013 16:04 GMT
#478
On July 08 2013 01:02 Xatalos wrote:
Maybe johnnywup should be allowed to live another day. Certainly Onegu, MajuGarzett, TanGeng and Abenson are looking bad, possibly worse than johnnywup, at the moment.

But why is WoS scum?


Im in agreement with anyone on this list
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
July 07 2013 16:07 GMT
#479
On July 07 2013 09:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 09:45 Xatalos wrote:
Confused about Chezinu's play, but I don't think that was a scumclaim. If he was scum, why would he announce it rather than launching it in secret? It seems more like a really stupid town play.

If I don't survive, I'd ask people to pressure johnnywup atm. All his posts so far reek of vagueness and add nothing valuable to the thread.

I'm starting to think that raynpelikoneet is likely town despite my initial concerns about his posting style.

I've already stated this, but he did it in mafia LX as mafia dayvig and he was scum.
Now, it's entirely possible that (as stated earlier by somebody) Chez was faking it and scum used it as cover to nuke Xat themselves. I'm willing to bet there was no need for Chez to actually type it in thread if it was his. Either way if people CAN stop this I'm not entirely sure it should be.

Also hai guise I back.
Did I miss anything important other than what is likely a whole bunch of town players all shitting on each other?


What made you get off of chez and on to johnny? So far chez has refused to answer all relevant questions, only saying he did in fact launch his nuke but not why or what type of nuke.

Johnny has mostly posted fluff, but so have I (first game as town), but I dont see any lynchable offenses yet.

If chez launched a positive/non lethal nuke why not claim it?
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 07 2013 16:08 GMT
#480
These are the posts that WoS has made that have any value whatsoever:

+ Show Spoiler +

On July 07 2013 09:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Geript town
Gumshoe town
Not sure on everyone else yet
Be back again sooooooooooooooooooooon


On July 07 2013 09:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 09:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i do not have a nuke. I tell that now. SOMEONE NUKE CHEZINU!
Anyone who is town and has a nuke, nuke Chezinu-.

Nobody listen to this.

This is what loses town high kp games. People need to sit back and chill the fuck out. Xat is most likely dead, now lets not do anything rash.

No, what loses town high KP games is the fact that townies or scum shoot town.
Xatalos is the fucking towniest guy in thread besides gumshoe.
You are probably scum for questioning me besides Chezinu's reasons for nuking Xata.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Chezinu

Congratulations, you may be the dumbest person currently playing this game.

You're also easily the scummiest. You start off super defensive, then proceed to shit up the thread with a dumb argument and then go after chez who is a pretty easy (but incredibly bad) target since he launched a nuke. Then you omgus.

I'd be down a for a rayn lynch.

Dandel, wos, austin, geript lets get some input here.

Nope, not ready to lynch Rayn---I can read him pretty decently for the most part I feel so I'm gonna let him stick around. I remember thinking someone else was pretty scummy actually (and I still think it's MORE likely that Chez is scum than he isn't but whatever)...oh yeah, johnnywup.

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On July 07 2013 08:56 johnnywup wrote:
Okay to be honest guys I don't see any scumtells out of anyone so far. Seems like you're all just drawing lots of focus to stuff that doesn't actually tell you anything. THAT'S the scummiest thing I've seen as of yet.

This is some scummy shit, yo. Like....it's true, but it's such a 'Hey guys, let's be iirends' way of saying it. Also kind of funny is he says he doesn't see any scumtells yet calls everyone scummy. Wat.


On July 08 2013 00:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
You know what's funny?
Both of the people voting for me currently have provided absolutely zero reasoning as to why I'm scum.
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On July 07 2013 10:42 johnnywup wrote:
I now remember why I stopped playing mafia, lol. Sorry if I look like scum, I haven't played in a looong time and even then I was terrible and always looked scummy as town.

On July 07 2013 10:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
ALL ABOARD THE TRAIN OF JUSTICE
WOO WOOOOOOO!!!
##Vote: johnnywup

Why wait until two others voted me to vote me? You already thought I was scum.

I really do think vayne is scummy atm though. Nothing productive at all. (say what you want about me but you can't deny that vayne hasn't done shit). Look through his filter. I don't know if he's just lazy/bad town or purposefully doing nothing but not liking him :\

WoS is also not looking very good for me atm but I can't really put a finger to why. His sarcasm is questionable for me and obviously I don't like him voting for me (don't like anyone voting for me though, obviously). The only constructive post he has is the one that targets me, which is good, but for the rest of his filter he's sarcastic, talking about other games, etc. I don't know.

Show nested quote +

There's 5 people voting me right now. Since I'm town, there's probably 2-3 scum voting for me and 2-3 misguided townies. Among the people who voted for me, I think WoS, TanGeng are the most scummy. I've already said why I don't like WoS, and I don't like TanGeng because for one thing he hopped on my bandwagon right after WoS wanted to start it...and he also hasn't said much. He's just been...there. He hasn't said anything of value. I'm pretty sure xatalos is town. I'm unsure about vayne.. I don't like him by any stretch of the imagination but he seems too bold voting me first...I don't know, he may be scum still. Abenson hasn't posted much...like at all. I can't really read him based on his posts in thread but he certainly looks like scum to me for quietly hopping on the bandwagon to vote me without saying anything.

So essentially...glorified OMGUS, and he's voting me based on that and what might be a shitty gutread. Cool story brehhhh.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 07:20 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:15 geript wrote:
True I did have to NK you that game. So other than Vayne, who's the best lynch? You down for lynching Dandel too? I'm pretty tempted by Rayn as well.

I'd be down for a rayn lynch since he defended his scumbuddy WoS.

WoS I don't have a real read on yet. But I'm not happy with how he didn't make a response to my luv tunnel comment. He normally would joke back at that.

Rayn is not acting all towny rayn and acting far more like Hydra 2 just getting in the way.

This is literally the only reason I found for Geript to me voting me.

Something fishhyyyy going on. And I don't think it's Geript.





EVERYTHING else has been sarcasm/joking/talking about other games/trying to get people to bandwagon me/etc. I'll skip the first post because it's only arguably substantial. I mean, the other two are somewhat large posts (mostly because of the quotes) but all he really says is

-quote- "This is some scummy shit, yo. Like....it's true, but it's such a 'Hey guys, let's be iirends' way of saying it. Also kind of funny is he says he doesn't see any scumtells yet calls everyone scummy. Wat."


Which doesn't really say anything either. He is obviously wanting to get people against me at this point but isn't willing to come straight out and say I'm scum. And even what he's saying isn't that substantial...he missed what I was saying.



"-quote-
So essentially...glorified OMGUS, and he's voting me based on that and what might be a shitty gutread. Cool story brehhhh.
-quote-
This is literally the only reason I found for Geript to me voting me.

Something fishhyyyy going on. And I don't think it's Geript."


Don't you see it? HE'S NOT SAYING ANYTHING. He skips over everything I said and said "lol so ur calling me bad. ur scum" And he's not speculating on anything either, he's just saying "wow this is fishy! 2 people are voting me!" He hasn't made any post that says anything.

This is every single post. He hasn't really done anything this whole game except say I'm scum. And I'm not scum. So the fact that he's focusing every single post on me is more than a little fishy for me.
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