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On July 07 2013 16:58 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2013 09:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
- If gumshoe was mafia and you town - why would gumshoe tell you, a town player, how to meta-read him better as he has claimed he is always a "wild card" who is unreadable?
- If gumshoe is town and you town - makes sense, you don't waste time on him if you believe him, and he is telling the truth
- If you are both mafia - why say that in thread? actually why would either of you enter that discussion (pointless) in thread? Here's my problem with this line of reasoning. Because meta is essentially worthless except for forming accusations or putting the icing on a nice big case, I don't think that talking about how to 'appropriately' determine someone's meta is pro-town or pro-scum. Scum can use it as a distration; town can use it to better give information and help solidify towniness. But it's not a way to get a town read imo. Right now, I would be down for the following lynches. I will explain more about why tomorrow after d&d WaveofShadow Onegu Vayne austin caucasainasian
It's not in itself, but if someone (in this case Xatalos, who is likely to be town) says he can meta read gumshoe and is wrong about it (as gumshoe thinks), why would you correct that statement of Xatalos'? If you were mafia and Xatalos is town, why would you not let Xata have his wrong line of thinking that makes you look town to him if you know your scum meta is in fact different? What's the point of correcting him and possibly give him a reason to think you are mafia later on when you don't have to do that? That is my reasoning.
On July 07 2013 10:19 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2013 09:56 austinmcc wrote:
The post-chez stuff is shitting up the thread but doing so in a very obvious and very...wrong way. If he's scum and just trying to get chez nuked, that seems silly AND is going to put a target on his head if chez were town (OMG CHEZ NUKED TOWN, NUKE CHEZ, OMG CHEZ WAS TOWN....NUKE ME?).
Therefore, I don't want to lynch him right now. Does this make sense, MZ? If he were scum, he's either trying to sac chez for credit or he's trying to get someone to nuke town chez for nuking town xat. (Or both are scum and then rayn wouldn't be doing this probs, because he'd look bad/odd when xat flipped) What, specifically, are you seeing in terms of him going from defensive --> shitting, and why does it give you a scumread?
This is a good question and i want it answered too. Because i have not been defensive and i have not been shitting the thread.
About Chezinu and his nuke:
If Chezinu is town:
- Nuke is real: Why would you nuke a player who is most likely town? If you think he is mafia, why would you not give reasons for your nuke?
- Nuke is a dud or smth: Why would you nuke a player who is most likely town? Best case scenario is that nothing happens at the deadline, worst case scenario is town uses anti-nuke or something to stop the nuke, Chezinu get's lynched.
Chezinu is crazy, but he is not stupid. Therefore i do not see a reason for him to nuke a player i see most likely to be town at this point. This also is Chezinu's nuke. If mafia used Chez's post as a cover to launch a silent nuke, he would have said that's the case already.
If Chezinu is mafia:
- Nuke is real and Chezinu launched it: Makes people go "no you can't be mafia for nuking at this point" like you all are. Townie dies. Profit!
- Nuke is real and Chezinu's scumbuddy launched it: What i said before, but even better. If you get lynched for it, you don't lose the guy who is nuking. Double profit!
- Nuke is a dud or smth: Make town to possibly waste anti-nuke or something to stop the "nuke".
There are a lot of upsides in launching a nuke at this point for mafia. If Xatalos is mafia, launcing a dud nuke on your scumbuddy is brilliant. Regardless of Xatalos' affiliation you confuse the thread. There is zero benefit launching a nuke as town, even if you believed that Xatalos is mafia, all you can do is possibly fuck up town's play and sidetrack us to talk about something that is not relevant at all.
Unless Chezinu outs his reasoning for nuking Xatalos, i'm keeping my vote on him. And no, insanity is not a reason. If Chezinu was Drazerk i could buy that, but he is not. He is a smart guy who is in some twisted way good at this shit.
If someone disagrees with me, tell me where i am wrong.
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*opens his left hand and begins counting from pinking*
johnny
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whups *slides finger along index finger and thumb*
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whups *slides back in opposite motion toward index*
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*folds arms in the coolest stance with the coolest shades with the coolest perked lips with the coolest nod as he looks around feeling accomplished*
Yeah, nukes are awesome.
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Chezinu what was your motive for nuking Xatalos?
Tell me why he's mafia.
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MajuGarzett is also really suspicious, all he has really done is fling mud onto rayn.
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jampidampi look at MZ and tell me what do you see.
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On July 07 2013 18:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He is a smart guy who is in some twisted way good at this shit.
If someone disagrees with me, tell me where i am wrong.
If Chezinu is so smart, how come he has never won a game that involved nukes or dayvigs?
Wait... So you are saying I'm good?
I'm the good guy.... I'm not the Monster! I'm NOT A MONSTER!!!!
Father! I'm Not A Monster! Take that inner Beast!!!!
I am a GOOD GUY!
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On July 07 2013 18:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Chezinu what was your motive for nuking Xatalos?
Tell me why he's mafia.
So, you are saying that Xatalos is mafia, but you want me to come up with reasons for you? You seem so certain that he is mafia in this statement.
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@good guy Chezinu
I have a simple test for you, do you think you can manage that?
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On July 07 2013 18:23 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2013 18:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Chezinu what was your motive for nuking Xatalos?
Tell me why he's mafia. So, you are saying that Xatalos is mafia, but you want me to come up with reasons for you? You seem so certain that he is mafia in this statement.
No i am not. I am saying that as you nuked Xatalos you must think he is mafia. Why would a town player nuke another town player under any circumstances? So why do you think Xatalos is mafia?
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A nuke has been spotted heading towards Meapak_Ziphh.
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On July 07 2013 18:27 geript wrote:
@good guy Chezinu
I have a simple test for you, do you think you can manage that?
Monday, Jul 08 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
We may or may not have time.
Time of impacts of these nukes? I do not know. If the nukes work? I don't know. The Day 1 post had impact warnings. You probably as much as I do.
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As you can see by the launch picture, my nuke goes straight up while the latest one goes diagonal.
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On July 07 2013 18:31 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2013 18:27 geript wrote:
@good guy Chezinu
I have a simple test for you, do you think you can manage that? Monday, Jul 08 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)We may or may not have time. Time of impacts of these nukes? I do not know. If the nukes work? I don't know. The Day 1 post had impact warnings. You probably as much as I do.
I need you to answer these 3 questions. And you have to be honest on them. Only Good Guy Chezinu is allowed to answer. No terrible inner beast answers.
1. Have you fired any nukes today?
2. Would you like to fire any nukes today?
3. Who would you like to fire nukes at?
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On July 07 2013 18:34 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2013 18:31 Chezinu wrote:On July 07 2013 18:27 geript wrote:
@good guy Chezinu
I have a simple test for you, do you think you can manage that? Monday, Jul 08 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)We may or may not have time. Time of impacts of these nukes? I do not know. If the nukes work? I don't know. The Day 1 post had impact warnings. You probably as much as I do. I need you to answer these 3 questions. And you have to be honest on them. Only Good Guy Chezinu is allowed to answer. No terrible inner beast answers. 1. Have you fired any nukes today? 2. Would you like to fire any nukes today? 3. Who would you like to fire nukes at?
1.Yes
2.No
3. The Sky!
looks where mine comes from: http://www.fas.org/
America!
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What if I told you I found some Trident gum on my shoe and then decided to launch the Trident out of my secret submarine all stealth like... well then I wouldn't need to yell out nuke...
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I'm sorry your answers were incomplete. You'll have to correct refile in order to pass the test or else the America IRS might be notified of the the discrepancies which have allowed you to buy a nuke.
1. This answer was complete and has been accepted
2. This answer was incomplete. Are you trying to say that despite the fact that you have fired a nuke today you didn't want to fire a nuke today? Were you coerced into firing a nuke? What led up to you firing the nuke?
3. The Sky is not a "who" the sky is a "what." I know that english isn't quite your native language but you will need to come up with "proper names" for a the "who" that you would like to fire nukes at.
Also, don't forget to sign your name and date at the bottom or else you may not receive credit.
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On July 07 2013 18:41 geript wrote:
I'm sorry your answers were incomplete. You'll have to correct refile in order to pass the test or else the America IRS might be notified of the the discrepancies which have allowed you to buy a nuke.
1. This answer was complete and has been accepted
2. This answer was incomplete. Are you trying to say that despite the fact that you have fired a nuke today you didn't want to fire a nuke today? Were you coerced into firing a nuke? What led up to you firing the nuke?
3. The Sky is not a "who" the sky is a "what." I know that english isn't quite your native language but you will need to come up with "proper names" for a the "who" that you would like to fire nukes at.
Also, don't forget to sign your name and date at the bottom or else you may not receive credit.
2.No, Yes, Yes
3.The Living
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On July 07 2013 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jampidampi look at MZ and tell me what do you see.
I see someone tunneling another person, really. Though the way it is happening makes me wonder. He lists geript as town, but you as scum, even though in my eyes your little back&forth with geript is town on town. So Meapak, what in your eyes makes geripts and rays interaction look like town on scum?
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Are you tried of waiting? Do you want nuke contracts to be fulfilled before Daybreak? Then Chezinu Banking has the solution for you! Chezinu banking provides Real Time contracts. These contracts enable members to make deals of abstract thought without having to pay a heavy price nor having to wait. With Chezinu Banking, not only do we guarantee instance gratification of real time contract, but we can rest assure that the consequences of a broken contract will be followed through by the end of the day!
Name: Currency Exchange
Cost: 25,000 Nuka'Chez caps
Use: To gain 100,000,000 Cheznos
Form:+ Show Spoiler +Payment can be made through CBS Banking
Name: The Real Time Contract
Cost: 10,000 Cheznos for each player
Use: To transfer items, goods, services, or anything else between two players
Form:+ Show Spoiler +[Party 1]
[Terms]
[Party 2]
[Terms] For example Chezinu
Pay 2,000,000 Cheznos
Artanis[Xp]
Kill Foolishness before the start of day 3
Name: Formal Complaint
Cost: Free
Use: To punish someone for break a real time contract
Form:+ Show Spoiler +Name: [Name]
Contract: [Contract]
Violation: [Violation] For example: Name: Chezinu Contract: Show nested quote +Chezinu
Pay 2,000,000 Cheznos
Artanis[Xp]
Kill Foolishness before the start of day 3 Violation: It's day 3 right now. Foolishness is alive
What can be used as proof: Things Chezinu Banking can see, IE who's alive, who voted for what ect ect. In addition Posts by the persons in the transaction can be used as proof.[/QUOTE]
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