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AnWh
Profile Joined April 2004
Sweden220 Posts
October 18 2008 10:50 GMT
#441
On October 18 2008 18:40 Carnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2008 08:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
This bitch scares the shit out of me, basically GOP 2.0 which is mixed with McCarthyesque views.



What I would say is that the news media should do a penetrating expose and take a look. I wish they would. I wish the American media would take a great look at the views of the people in Congress and find out, are they pro-America or Anti-America? I think the American people would love to see an expose like that.

what the fuck
she might actually be more retarded than Palin. Well not more retarded, but more dangerous.
This is one of the most outrageous videos I have seen in the election threads so far.
And she calls those people "radical leftists"? She doesn't even understand what that means :<

'
jesus she had a really uncomfortable stare. "anti-american" lol rethorics
Locke.
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Israel562 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-18 12:14:58
October 18 2008 12:13 GMT
#442
On October 18 2008 17:12 Jibba wrote:
I've really got to give you a lot of credit for being so nice about all this. You've definitely got me beat on experience/knowledge, but I do try and keep up to date with the english sources available (Haaretz, JPost, Aljazeera.) Most of the Israelis I've met in the US and at temple are hardcore Zionist assholes who try and pick fights with everyone. D:


Thank you for the credit


About the US election I wanted to ask something.
When you have two major parties like the Democrats and Republicans it makes sense that in both parties you will find intelligent, able people that explain their Party's ideology.
Now, currently looking at Mccain and Palin that is obviously not the case for the Republican party.

Can anyone point me to the logical Republicans? Those that speak clearly and make sense. That actually explain their ideas in a good way without letting word selection and grammer become the most important thing?

This is not a rethoric question I just want to read or hear these people.
I honestly don't mean it as an attack on the Rep. party ideology.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 18 2008 12:25 GMT
#443
ooh a saul alinsky reference.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
October 18 2008 12:47 GMT
#444
On October 18 2008 18:40 Carnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2008 08:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
This bitch scares the shit out of me, basically GOP 2.0 which is mixed with McCarthyesque views.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESdA52S4Dbg

What I would say is that the news media should do a penetrating expose and take a look. I wish they would. I wish the American media would take a great look at the views of the people in Congress and find out, are they pro-America or Anti-America? I think the American people would love to see an expose like that.

what the fuck
she might actually be more retarded than Palin. Well not more retarded, but more dangerous.
This is one of the most outrageous videos I have seen in the election threads so far.
And she calls those people "radical leftists"? She doesn't even understand what that means :<


Well, just look at her wikipedia, ID ftw.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 18 2008 17:05 GMT
#445
On October 18 2008 21:13 Locke. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2008 17:12 Jibba wrote:
I've really got to give you a lot of credit for being so nice about all this. You've definitely got me beat on experience/knowledge, but I do try and keep up to date with the english sources available (Haaretz, JPost, Aljazeera.) Most of the Israelis I've met in the US and at temple are hardcore Zionist assholes who try and pick fights with everyone. D:


Thank you for the credit


About the US election I wanted to ask something.
When you have two major parties like the Democrats and Republicans it makes sense that in both parties you will find intelligent, able people that explain their Party's ideology.
Now, currently looking at Mccain and Palin that is obviously not the case for the Republican party.

Can anyone point me to the logical Republicans? Those that speak clearly and make sense. That actually explain their ideas in a good way without letting word selection and grammer become the most important thing?

This is not a rethoric question I just want to read or hear these people.
I honestly don't mean it as an attack on the Rep. party ideology.

Both McCain and especially Palin (not that she's intelligent anyways) are being pushed around by the same neo-cons that helped win Bush the past two elections. McCain has never been a knight in shining armor, but he was a pretty good senator for at least a decade and in his 2000 he did run an ethical, fair campaign. From what I've read, Karl Rove is the person who convinced him to pick Palin (instead of Lieberman) and I'm sure McCain has been pushed around on a few more decisions.

There's no one who can speak like Biden or Obama, but there's some very strong republican senators especially on the foreign relations committee, financial services committee (yes, even Ron Paul) and the ethics boards.

ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
October 18 2008 17:12 GMT
#446
On October 18 2008 21:13 Locke. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2008 17:12 Jibba wrote:
I've really got to give you a lot of credit for being so nice about all this. You've definitely got me beat on experience/knowledge, but I do try and keep up to date with the english sources available (Haaretz, JPost, Aljazeera.) Most of the Israelis I've met in the US and at temple are hardcore Zionist assholes who try and pick fights with everyone. D:


Thank you for the credit


About the US election I wanted to ask something.
When you have two major parties like the Democrats and Republicans it makes sense that in both parties you will find intelligent, able people that explain their Party's ideology.
Now, currently looking at Mccain and Palin that is obviously not the case for the Republican party.

Can anyone point me to the logical Republicans? Those that speak clearly and make sense. That actually explain their ideas in a good way without letting word selection and grammer become the most important thing?

This is not a rethoric question I just want to read or hear these people.
I honestly don't mean it as an attack on the Rep. party ideology.


Newt Gingrich.

Even John Kerry praised him and said that if he and Newt could sit down and make policy, they could fix things in America.

He is also a fiscal conservative....rare to find in the era of Bush.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
October 18 2008 17:42 GMT
#447
On October 19 2008 02:12 Savio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2008 21:13 Locke. wrote:
On October 18 2008 17:12 Jibba wrote:
I've really got to give you a lot of credit for being so nice about all this. You've definitely got me beat on experience/knowledge, but I do try and keep up to date with the english sources available (Haaretz, JPost, Aljazeera.) Most of the Israelis I've met in the US and at temple are hardcore Zionist assholes who try and pick fights with everyone. D:


Thank you for the credit


About the US election I wanted to ask something.
When you have two major parties like the Democrats and Republicans it makes sense that in both parties you will find intelligent, able people that explain their Party's ideology.
Now, currently looking at Mccain and Palin that is obviously not the case for the Republican party.

Can anyone point me to the logical Republicans? Those that speak clearly and make sense. That actually explain their ideas in a good way without letting word selection and grammer become the most important thing?

This is not a rethoric question I just want to read or hear these people.
I honestly don't mean it as an attack on the Rep. party ideology.


Newt Gingrich.

Even John Kerry praised him and said that if he and Newt could sit down and make policy, they could fix things in America.

He is also a fiscal conservative....rare to find in the era of Bush.



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" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-18 17:55:36
October 18 2008 17:55 GMT
#448
Gingrich is the reason Clinton's numbers look like that. He won't get it from the public, but Gingrich's congress deserves some credit for the way things went under Clinton. Clinton didn't balance the budget, they did.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
October 18 2008 20:03 GMT
#449
Well, if Obama loses the election there, i would be really happy to have him as president of Brazil =p
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
October 18 2008 20:19 GMT
#450
That bitch Bachmann managed to raise 400k for the other guy in 24 hours.. amazing
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
October 18 2008 20:22 GMT
#451
100,000 in St.Louis Obama rally...feel the power

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zerg/human - vancouver, canada
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
October 18 2008 20:44 GMT
#452
That's a great picture.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
October 18 2008 20:45 GMT
#453
Obama ftw.
Peace~
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 18 2008 20:56 GMT
#454


McCain needs some advisers who aren't fucking idiots.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-18 21:00:14
October 18 2008 20:59 GMT
#455
Yeah I was like, "WTF real Virginia?", glad he caught that. lol
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
October 18 2008 21:19 GMT
#456
You guys seen this?
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
October 18 2008 21:24 GMT
#457
...
It's bar night in my home town!!!!
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 18 2008 22:16 GMT
#458
lol real virginia
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8000 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-18 23:08:38
October 18 2008 23:06 GMT
#459
On October 18 2008 21:13 Locke. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2008 17:12 Jibba wrote:
I've really got to give you a lot of credit for being so nice about all this. You've definitely got me beat on experience/knowledge, but I do try and keep up to date with the english sources available (Haaretz, JPost, Aljazeera.) Most of the Israelis I've met in the US and at temple are hardcore Zionist assholes who try and pick fights with everyone. D:


Thank you for the credit


About the US election I wanted to ask something.
When you have two major parties like the Democrats and Republicans it makes sense that in both parties you will find intelligent, able people that explain their Party's ideology.
Now, currently looking at Mccain and Palin that is obviously not the case for the Republican party.

Can anyone point me to the logical Republicans? Those that speak clearly and make sense. That actually explain their ideas in a good way without letting word selection and grammer become the most important thing?

This is not a rethoric question I just want to read or hear these people.
I honestly don't mean it as an attack on the Rep. party ideology.


Well, that's basically why the Republican party had anyway no chance to win theses elections: they don't come with something new. Obama had really an easy task during his three debate with McFail, which was to point out that the policy his opponent advertise is just plainly the same than the one which has driven this country to the catastrophic state in which it is now. So well, McCain seems stupid because his program is obsolete and his discourse is a vacuum. Just bad luck for him that everything collapse before the Republican Party can operate its mutation into a more adapted ideology.

So well, to be quick: less taxes for companies and richest americans "in order to favour buisness", agressive international policy, ultra-conservative interior policy etc... etc...

I think McCain is the last american leader of the Reagan-Tatcher era, which, imo, is over.

Now I guess it's just time to get rid of Berlusconi, Sarkozy, Cameron (which is not elected yet) etc... etc...
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Murk
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada304 Posts
October 18 2008 23:42 GMT
#460
Mcain is george bush remix... cant you see that? and hes to old.... non of the younger generation is gonna vote for mcain... lets be serious, maybe ppl in their 60's and up will for for mcain, but thats about it lol
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