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CyberVoid
Profile Joined June 2013
Brazil165 Posts
January 01 2014 20:54 GMT
#421
This is horrible, Hyun is one of the nicest players around
"My mission is to kill time, and time's to kill me in its turn. How comfortable one is among murderers."
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 21:14:55
January 01 2014 21:14 GMT
#422
Why do teams get prize money for individual players? Doesn't make sense to me. Bad that he isn't going to get paid. Bad that he trusted someone else with his money.
P_e_X
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany43 Posts
January 01 2014 21:20 GMT
#423
oh well if i were him i would have snapped as soon as i didnt get my salary 3x(max!) in a row...nice guys always get fucked in the ass, everybody learns it eventually :/
awwwww shiiiiieeet :3
fireforce7
Profile Joined June 2010
United States334 Posts
January 01 2014 21:22 GMT
#424
This really blows...its days like this where I wish the players would just be able to receive the money, but pay dues or costs to the team AFTER they get their winnings...not vice versa...=/
I'm terranfying
Neo7
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States922 Posts
January 01 2014 21:23 GMT
#425
On January 02 2014 06:14 NoobSkills wrote:
Why do teams get prize money for individual players? Doesn't make sense to me. Bad that he isn't going to get paid. Bad that he trusted someone else with his money.


Players often have an option to pay out to themselves directly or to their team. The difference is that if it's paid directly to them, they often get slammed with taxes (international or otherwise). They can get some pretty big tax breaks on their income through paying it to their team instead and having the team distribute it.
It takes an idiot to do cool things.
Manijak
Profile Joined October 2010
Slovenia112 Posts
January 01 2014 21:28 GMT
#426
This is bad . Hope it still somehow works out for Hyun and he doesn't retires.
blastyblast21
Profile Joined January 2013
United States61 Posts
January 01 2014 21:56 GMT
#427
Hyun get a lawyer to make Simon pay, He can not just run off without paying you your money that you earned. Also go find another team to play on. Believe me any team would be lucky to have you on their roster.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 01 2014 22:06 GMT
#428
Damn this sucks pretty hardcore. Wish there was a way to get Hyun this money.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
January 01 2014 22:08 GMT
#429
On January 02 2014 06:23 Neo7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 06:14 NoobSkills wrote:
Why do teams get prize money for individual players? Doesn't make sense to me. Bad that he isn't going to get paid. Bad that he trusted someone else with his money.


Players often have an option to pay out to themselves directly or to their team. The difference is that if it's paid directly to them, they often get slammed with taxes (international or otherwise). They can get some pretty big tax breaks on their income through paying it to their team instead and having the team distribute it.


Money won in a country has to have taxes paid in the country. Doesn't matter who it goes to, the taxes must be paid. It makes no difference who it goes to. The reason why the money went to the team were:
1. Language barrier when it comes to collecting
2. Team offered to solve that language barrier
3. The team owner wanted the money because of what is happening now.

In the end though I don't trust enough people especially with money. Money alone is tempting, but your team owner isn't the same as a family member or a friend and even those people sometimes steal money.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
January 01 2014 22:19 GMT
#430
Bumblebonjwa on DH team payout here
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
B-rye88
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada168 Posts
January 01 2014 22:21 GMT
#431
On January 02 2014 07:08 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 06:23 Neo7 wrote:
On January 02 2014 06:14 NoobSkills wrote:
Why do teams get prize money for individual players? Doesn't make sense to me. Bad that he isn't going to get paid. Bad that he trusted someone else with his money.


Players often have an option to pay out to themselves directly or to their team. The difference is that if it's paid directly to them, they often get slammed with taxes (international or otherwise). They can get some pretty big tax breaks on their income through paying it to their team instead and having the team distribute it.


Money won in a country has to have taxes paid in the country. Doesn't matter who it goes to, the taxes must be paid. It makes no difference who it goes to. The reason why the money went to the team were:
1. Language barrier when it comes to collecting
2. Team offered to solve that language barrier
3. The team owner wanted the money because of what is happening now.

In the end though I don't trust enough people especially with money. Money alone is tempting, but your team owner isn't the same as a family member or a friend and even those people sometimes steal money.


The bolded, specifically, is incorrect dependant on jurisdiction.
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
January 01 2014 22:23 GMT
#432
proleaguuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

someone catch that asshole ceo please
관광 since 2008. Master of Cheese. God of Heartbreak Ridge.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 01 2014 22:24 GMT
#433
On January 02 2014 07:08 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 06:23 Neo7 wrote:
On January 02 2014 06:14 NoobSkills wrote:
Why do teams get prize money for individual players? Doesn't make sense to me. Bad that he isn't going to get paid. Bad that he trusted someone else with his money.


Players often have an option to pay out to themselves directly or to their team. The difference is that if it's paid directly to them, they often get slammed with taxes (international or otherwise). They can get some pretty big tax breaks on their income through paying it to their team instead and having the team distribute it.


Money won in a country has to have taxes paid in the country. Doesn't matter who it goes to, the taxes must be paid. It makes no difference who it goes to.


No, not necessarily.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 01 2014 22:28 GMT
#434
On January 02 2014 02:34 orvinreyes wrote:
that's why kespa


kespa didn't help jangbi
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
January 01 2014 22:29 GMT
#435
On January 02 2014 07:21 B-rye88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 07:08 NoobSkills wrote:
On January 02 2014 06:23 Neo7 wrote:
On January 02 2014 06:14 NoobSkills wrote:
Why do teams get prize money for individual players? Doesn't make sense to me. Bad that he isn't going to get paid. Bad that he trusted someone else with his money.


Players often have an option to pay out to themselves directly or to their team. The difference is that if it's paid directly to them, they often get slammed with taxes (international or otherwise). They can get some pretty big tax breaks on their income through paying it to their team instead and having the team distribute it.


Money won in a country has to have taxes paid in the country. Doesn't matter who it goes to, the taxes must be paid. It makes no difference who it goes to. The reason why the money went to the team were:
1. Language barrier when it comes to collecting
2. Team offered to solve that language barrier
3. The team owner wanted the money because of what is happening now.

In the end though I don't trust enough people especially with money. Money alone is tempting, but your team owner isn't the same as a family member or a friend and even those people sometimes steal money.


The bolded, specifically, is incorrect dependant on jurisdiction.


The bolded is correct, but may be negated by jurisdiction. If I won WCS Kor and paid taxes in Korea and came back to the income would be given a credit for up to 92,000 after that I would have to pay taxes on it again. Now, specifically you could argue that taxes in a foreign country if a team/LLC/corp/small buisness was to take the money you might save money in taxes when compared to filing it as personal income. In the end though trusting someone with your money isn't wise.
ZodaSoda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
January 01 2014 23:00 GMT
#436
On January 02 2014 03:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:
On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but.


Axiom is not a foreign team


Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid...


This is the reason I come to Teamliquid, to have random forum posters inform me of what my team is and isn't.


Right, random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game...

Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy

Why is it so important to you people call Axiom a "Korean" team anyway? its not going to happen if you keep calling it your team and you keep telling us that you pay them and that you organize their flights, and without GSTL now, Axiom not in Proleague, you're as far as you can get from being a proper "Korean" team in the meaning of the phrase coming from the BW days... at best you're a International team who happens to only sign Koreans, if TL dropped all their players except for Taeja and HerO would that make Liquid a Korean team? no...

But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that...
LiquipediaI'm the strongest Dragon that you've ever seen, You're gonna die motherfucker, I take up five screens. -Kraid
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
January 01 2014 23:06 GMT
#437
On January 02 2014 08:00 ZodaSoda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 03:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:
On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but.


Axiom is not a foreign team


Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid...


This is the reason I come to Teamliquid, to have random forum posters inform me of what my team is and isn't.


Right, random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game...

Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy

Why is it so important to you people call Axiom a "Korean" team anyway? its not going to happen if you keep calling it your team and you keep telling us that you pay them and that you organize their flights, and without GSTL now, Axiom not in Proleague, you're as far as you can get from being a proper "Korean" team in the meaning of the phrase coming from the BW days... at best you're a International team who happens to only sign Koreans, if TL dropped all their players except for Taeja and HerO would that make Liquid a Korean team? no...

But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that...

Is Alliance a Swedish team or an American team? :o
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 23:09:56
January 01 2014 23:08 GMT
#438
On January 02 2014 08:00 ZodaSoda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 03:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:
On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but.


Axiom is not a foreign team


Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid...


This is the reason I come to Teamliquid, to have random forum posters inform me of what my team is and isn't.


Right, random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game...

Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy

Why is it so important to you people call Axiom a "Korean" team anyway? its not going to happen if you keep calling it your team and you keep telling us that you pay them and that you organize their flights, and without GSTL now, Axiom not in Proleague, you're as far as you can get from being a proper "Korean" team in the meaning of the phrase coming from the BW days... at best you're a International team who happens to only sign Koreans, if TL dropped all their players except for Taeja and HerO would that make Liquid a Korean team? no...

But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that...


It's cute that the Broodwar Elitists are still around. Team full of Koreans, that lives in Korea, trains in the Korean style, is coached by a Korean, is physically based in a Korean house, yeah they're probably Korean. Your definitions means nothing. Oooh how fancy, you've been organising what you think teams are since Brood War. I'm in awe.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
ZodaSoda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
January 01 2014 23:09 GMT
#439
On January 02 2014 08:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 08:00 ZodaSoda wrote:
On January 02 2014 03:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:
On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but.


Axiom is not a foreign team


Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid...


This is the reason I come to Teamliquid, to have random forum posters inform me of what my team is and isn't.


Right, random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game...

Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy

Why is it so important to you people call Axiom a "Korean" team anyway? its not going to happen if you keep calling it your team and you keep telling us that you pay them and that you organize their flights, and without GSTL now, Axiom not in Proleague, you're as far as you can get from being a proper "Korean" team in the meaning of the phrase coming from the BW days... at best you're a International team who happens to only sign Koreans, if TL dropped all their players except for Taeja and HerO would that make Liquid a Korean team? no...

But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that...


It's cute that the Broodwar Elitists are still around and still as snippy as ever.


I'm a Starcraft 2 Elitist if anything lol, run along manchild.
LiquipediaI'm the strongest Dragon that you've ever seen, You're gonna die motherfucker, I take up five screens. -Kraid
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 23:11:18
January 01 2014 23:10 GMT
#440
On January 02 2014 08:09 ZodaSoda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 08:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 02 2014 08:00 ZodaSoda wrote:
On January 02 2014 03:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:
On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but.


Axiom is not a foreign team


Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid...


This is the reason I come to Teamliquid, to have random forum posters inform me of what my team is and isn't.


Right, random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game...

Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy

Why is it so important to you people call Axiom a "Korean" team anyway? its not going to happen if you keep calling it your team and you keep telling us that you pay them and that you organize their flights, and without GSTL now, Axiom not in Proleague, you're as far as you can get from being a proper "Korean" team in the meaning of the phrase coming from the BW days... at best you're a International team who happens to only sign Koreans, if TL dropped all their players except for Taeja and HerO would that make Liquid a Korean team? no...

But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that...


It's cute that the Broodwar Elitists are still around and still as snippy as ever.


I'm a Starcraft 2 Elitist if anything lol, run along manchild.


Take your cancerous attitude elsewhere. Your Brood War definitions are meaningless in SC2 and it's hilarious that you think you can tell a team what they are and are not considered to be.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
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