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Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
August 03 2012 19:12 GMT
#381
sloosh, here is the deal: if you just put some thought on everything that has been said, all you see is town arguing against town about how to play better. Nothing said so far is, in my eyes, alignment indicative; I can see town players doing everything done so far. This means I have no scummy player to attack right now. That's why I'm calling out other players - maybe they can provide me something better to look on.

Your memelynch on me is bad and you should feel bad. I admit I may not have made a super-duper-awesome case like my case on prplhz last game, but I've been contributing. Asking questions and stating my opinions, specifically.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 03 2012 19:19 GMT
#382
On August 04 2012 04:11 Toadesstern wrote:
Although the updated list would probably be:
Talis
Prplhz
Zephirdd
VE
WBG


EWBOP Forgot bugs

Thing is: Last time I checked my nickname it wasn't foolishness so again, I think someone is playing weird on purpose
Not to mention that prplhz+WBG+VE would be OP as fuck.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 03 2012 19:25 GMT
#383
So what specifically about Prplhz sticks out to you?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 03 2012 19:29 GMT
#384
On August 04 2012 04:19 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 04:11 Toadesstern wrote:
Although the updated list would probably be:
Talis
Prplhz
Zephirdd
VE
WBG


EWBOP Forgot bugs

Thing is: Last time I checked my nickname it wasn't foolishness so again, I think someone is playing weird on purpose
Not to mention that prplhz+WBG+VE would be OP as fuck.


Got it, you sort of suspect everyone, which is convenient if someone flips red.

And, of course, even though Zeph hasn't contributed much, I can't help but notice Sloosh targets his list post, but doesn't mind yours.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 03 2012 19:30 GMT
#385
On August 04 2012 04:25 slOosh wrote:
So what specifically about Prplhz sticks out to you?

Okay so I'm doing this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=352668&currentpage=14#264
and prplhz answers with this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=352668&currentpage=14#265

I considered his post reasonable. My post had nothing in it other than some colored names. The normal reaction should be "why?" and he did that.

Next thing he does is this himself after "calling me out" on my first post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=352668&currentpage=15#295

As mentioned. I obviously thought this is a joke or some reaction fishing to test how glasse reacts or wether or not some idiots join in and yell "yeah, let's lynch that mofu! Totally agree".

Why I thought it has to be a joke? Look at glasse's filter. The guy had 3 posts back then.
Two posts that read nothing to me and one I actually liked.
His "case" involves all 3 posts glass did:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=352668&currentpage=15#299
1st post: I have never played with glasse and it's his first post. It's useless. No shit sherloc. Let's check the first post of some guys and you'll realize that most stuff is useless or even trollish.
2nd post: I kind of agree with what prplhz posted here, however as mentioned I never played with glasse. If this guy is a vet I never heard about, that's a bad post. If this guy is some new guy, like I care lol
3rd post: I actually liked that post and considered it a possibility myself. WBG could have made both things up, knowing that at least VE was not around to get some reactions. I don't see that as undermining WBG at all. It's saying "hey guys, let's not get to much into this and wait until we get a confirmation from VE and Eran on this". That's reasonable.

So again, I considered this to be a joke and thought prplhz is fishing for reactions because there's no way he actually thinks that way imo.
But he admitted he actually meant what he posted so that's really weird.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 03 2012 19:37 GMT
#386
yep zeph is scummy for exactly why sloosh says. erandorr I thought was for a bit but I don't understand masoning wbg from a scum pov. jinglehell is town, lazer is town, strongandbig is town. toad I thought was scum at first because of the timing of his patented color text post but he's just been being generally rather toady, which is to say he makes really strange (from my perspective) conclusions about what's good in the setup and what's not with strange (again from my perspective) reasoning behind it. Glasse I thought was hilariously obviously scummy. Like so blatant I honestly don't know what to think. Guess I should go dig up another game of his.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 03 2012 19:38 GMT
#387
On August 04 2012 04:29 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 04:19 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 04 2012 04:11 Toadesstern wrote:
Although the updated list would probably be:
Talis
Prplhz
Zephirdd
VE
WBG


EWBOP Forgot bugs

Thing is: Last time I checked my nickname it wasn't foolishness so again, I think someone is playing weird on purpose
Not to mention that prplhz+WBG+VE would be OP as fuck.


Got it, you sort of suspect everyone, which is convenient if someone flips red.

And, of course, even though Zeph hasn't contributed much, I can't help but notice Sloosh targets his list post, but doesn't mind yours.

It's because they are of a different kind. Zeph's is purely those who haven't posted yet, Toad's is his scum reads. You can hold the latter accountable. The former fits in with his play of posting but not contributing.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 03 2012 19:41 GMT
#388
@sloosh
+ Show Spoiler +
I put things in spoiler tags when they aren't pertinent to the most important stuff happening in the thread. my reply to toad was about theory of the game setup, when at that point we already had actual game shit happening that was more important (wbg calling out VE).
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 03 2012 19:43 GMT
#389
On August 04 2012 04:41 talismania wrote:
@sloosh
+ Show Spoiler +
I put things in spoiler tags when they aren't pertinent to the most important stuff happening in the thread. my reply to toad was about theory of the game setup, when at that point we already had actual game shit happening that was more important (wbg calling out VE).

First, could you stop spoilering stuff unless they are big posts?
Second, what is your actual read on Toad then? Did your discussion with him give you any insights?
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
August 03 2012 19:45 GMT
#390
"not contributing"? What do you want me to do, pull bullshit out of my ass the way you are doing?

wbg outing masons is a town move because he believes there is scum in the masons; He is outing them in order to pressure them.

VE is town because his posting lines up with cautious blue that wants to protect his supposedly powerful mason role.
Erandorr is dumb, but I'd say he wouldn't be that dumb as scum.

Talismania's posts made sense for me when he posted them, and I still see them as possible town opinions.

prplhz has been baiting scum with certain actions, while making sense with others. He hasn't caused chaos and is doing a good job in keeping the pace of the thread.

Everything else is a null tell.

I hate defending other people. That's their job. I only defend someone when I feel I have someone better to lynch. I don't.

Deal with it.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 03 2012 19:50 GMT
#391
On August 04 2012 04:30 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 04:25 slOosh wrote:
So what specifically about Prplhz sticks out to you?

Okay so I'm doing this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=352668&currentpage=14#264
and prplhz answers with this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=352668&currentpage=14#265

I considered his post reasonable. My post had nothing in it other than some colored names. The normal reaction should be "why?" and he did that.

Next thing he does is this himself after "calling me out" on my first post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=352668&currentpage=15#295

As mentioned. I obviously thought this is a joke or some reaction fishing to test how glasse reacts or wether or not some idiots join in and yell "yeah, let's lynch that mofu! Totally agree".

Why I thought it has to be a joke? Look at glasse's filter. The guy had 3 posts back then.
Two posts that read nothing to me and one I actually liked.
His "case" involves all 3 posts glass did:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=352668&currentpage=15#299
1st post: I have never played with glasse and it's his first post. It's useless. No shit sherloc. Let's check the first post of some guys and you'll realize that most stuff is useless or even trollish.
2nd post: I kind of agree with what prplhz posted here, however as mentioned I never played with glasse. If this guy is a vet I never heard about, that's a bad post. If this guy is some new guy, like I care lol
3rd post: I actually liked that post and considered it a possibility myself. WBG could have made both things up, knowing that at least VE was not around to get some reactions. I don't see that as undermining WBG at all. It's saying "hey guys, let's not get to much into this and wait until we get a confirmation from VE and Eran on this". That's reasonable.

So again, I considered this to be a joke and thought prplhz is fishing for reactions because there's no way he actually thinks that way imo.
But he admitted he actually meant what he posted so that's really weird.

Mmm yea, I'd agree with you on the Glasse. Voting first and giving an explanation afterward when asked of the suspect seems backward to me.

Furthermore, I dunno why he called me out - I played like junks the game he mentioned so why my input was absolutely necessary seems like a diversion if anything. In either case I'm interested in his updated thoughts so I'll wait on those.
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 03 2012 19:53 GMT
#392
On August 04 2012 04:12 Zephirdd wrote:
sloosh, here is the deal: if you just put some thought on everything that has been said, all you see is town arguing against town about how to play better. Nothing said so far is, in my eyes, alignment indicative; I can see town players doing everything done so far. This means I have no scummy player to attack right now. That's why I'm calling out other players - maybe they can provide me something better to look on.

Your memelynch on me is bad and you should feel bad. I admit I may not have made a super-duper-awesome case like my case on prplhz last game, but I've been contributing. Asking questions and stating my opinions, specifically.


How would you like us to proceed then? As far as i've read, we really didn't come to any conclusion as far as what to do with declaring/not declaring masons. WBG simply just went ahead and declared both of his before there was a conclusion.

As far as analyzing posts, you are right, there isn't much at all in the thread right now that can make a case. Sure, announcing a list of people that haven't "contributed" is posting something, but what can we use that for? Roll the dice and pick a name off of the list since everyone in the thread is confirming each other as bad town?
Bio - Breaking it down
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 03 2012 19:54 GMT
#393
On August 04 2012 04:45 Zephirdd wrote:
"not contributing"? What do you want me to do, pull bullshit out of my ass the way you are doing?

wbg outing masons is a town move because he believes there is scum in the masons; He is outing them in order to pressure them.

VE is town because his posting lines up with cautious blue that wants to protect his supposedly powerful mason role.
Erandorr is dumb, but I'd say he wouldn't be that dumb as scum.

Talismania's posts made sense for me when he posted them, and I still see them as possible town opinions.

prplhz has been baiting scum with certain actions, while making sense with others. He hasn't caused chaos and is doing a good job in keeping the pace of the thread.

Everything else is a null tell.

I hate defending other people. That's their job. I only defend someone when I feel I have someone better to lynch. I don't.

Deal with it.

Wow, way to discredit me without actually doing it. Could you explain which posts lead you to believe the bolded parts of your post?
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 03 2012 19:56 GMT
#394
Can we pretty please have a filter list in the OP? PWEEESE?
Bio - Breaking it down
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
August 03 2012 19:57 GMT
#395
Because that's exactly what I would do in their position. In fact, I did try to bait people on my first posts, but all I got was a lousy newb.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 03 2012 19:59 GMT
#396
On August 04 2012 04:56 BioSC wrote:
Can we pretty please have a filter list in the OP? PWEEESE?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=352668&currentpage=9#162

Page 9 :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 03 2012 20:00 GMT
#397
And what was so lousy about my response? Just being dismissive?
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 03 2012 20:00 GMT
#398
How did I miss that? TYTY ♥
Bio - Breaking it down
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 03 2012 20:13 GMT
#399
On August 04 2012 04:43 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 04:41 talismania wrote:
@sloosh
+ Show Spoiler +
I put things in spoiler tags when they aren't pertinent to the most important stuff happening in the thread. my reply to toad was about theory of the game setup, when at that point we already had actual game shit happening that was more important (wbg calling out VE).

First, could you stop spoilering stuff unless they are big posts?
Second, what is your actual read on Toad then? Did your discussion with him give you any insights?


But I was being cute!

My actual read of toad is "ugh". If I had to pick I'd say scum. It seems weird that I got the all red letter designation but I honestly can't remember sitting here now why. I think it was just because he disagreed with me about my thoughts on the masons. Oh and also it was that my post wasn't like my early game post in pyp et al. Which is true it wasn't but I was scum that game and I've kinda gotten lynched in two games since then for doing the same shit (and toad should know that from hosting ssb64) so no crazy plans or ideas from me this time. But I think that honestly you could say I was scum just as much as you could say VE was scum, yet toad has VE in alternating letters and me in all red.

_________________

ps can people post their character names? I just want to satisfy my curiosity to find out who is in the game - I know that they don't mean anything since I'm VT with Henry Francis. Although I will LOL if scum has Ted Chaugh and Putnam, Powell, Lowe etc. And if WBG is veteran since Roger comes back from a heart attack in the first season.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 03 2012 20:21 GMT
#400
On August 04 2012 05:13 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 04:43 slOosh wrote:
On August 04 2012 04:41 talismania wrote:
@sloosh
+ Show Spoiler +
I put things in spoiler tags when they aren't pertinent to the most important stuff happening in the thread. my reply to toad was about theory of the game setup, when at that point we already had actual game shit happening that was more important (wbg calling out VE).

First, could you stop spoilering stuff unless they are big posts?
Second, what is your actual read on Toad then? Did your discussion with him give you any insights?


But I was being cute!

My actual read of toad is "ugh". If I had to pick I'd say scum. It seems weird that I got the all red letter designation but I honestly can't remember sitting here now why. I think it was just because he disagreed with me about my thoughts on the masons. Oh and also it was that my post wasn't like my early game post in pyp et al. Which is true it wasn't but I was scum that game and I've kinda gotten lynched in two games since then for doing the same shit (and toad should know that from hosting ssb64) so no crazy plans or ideas from me this time. But I think that honestly you could say I was scum just as much as you could say VE was scum, yet toad has VE in alternating letters and me in all red.

_________________

ps can people post their character names? I just want to satisfy my curiosity to find out who is in the game - I know that they don't mean anything since I'm VT with Henry Francis. Although I will LOL if scum has Ted Chaugh and Putnam, Powell, Lowe etc. And if WBG is veteran since Roger comes back from a heart attack in the first season.

So currently you have Toad as scum. Are you calling VE scum or what?
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