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I'm serious about my artanis comment. He's a good player, and here he's content to sit back and dog it up. Assuming you had ANY kind of goal with your scooby stuff, he is a person playing along but not really doing anything at all. Does this not rustle your jimmies? | ||
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On January 10 2014 07:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Cuz HolyFlare came into the game and made a spectacle of himself. For a couple hours into the game, that's still going to be townie for me.After this post you joke around some more with HolyFlare who still hasn't given a read despite me pinging him. Artanis actually gave a scum read (or at least, that's what I read into his barking at Derrida as) that I agree with. At least he's playing the game while trolling. HolyFlare is still trying to recruit people into his mysteryvan. How do you read Artanis scummy over HolyFlare and Derrida? Artanis DID do a little read-giving, which I like more than what rayn has done. But I don't view him barking and whatnot as determinative of anything. His more recent post looks better. Derrida sounds like Doritos. | ||
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On January 10 2014 20:59 Holyflare wrote: It's not an assumption. I personally find all the extra fluff to be anti-town. It adds pages, provides things to do for people that aren't scumhunting (even if you are using it for a purpose), and it fluffs your filter up. It also encourages rayn to add fluff now too. Regardless of what posting scooby doo stuff does for you, it has an effect on the rest of the thread, and it may not be helpful for everyone. Let alone the fact that people aren't "assuming" your scooby doo stuff to be anti-town, some people just think it is. Not an assumption, an opinion. For instance, I think it's anti-town right now.Why is everyone assuming that scooby doo is ANTI-town? It helps me figure out alignments, it has generated A LOT of discussion over it for analysis and you can all have fun in the process! That is the most pro town thing that can be done. You also quite clearly have not read this game up to date if you think it has wasted any time at all, coupled with the fact that you think I haven't been participating my previous read on you is rapidly dwindling. I would be gathering A LOT more information from people playing scooby doo if they actually played along instead of criticising it. I have already gained much information based on responses though so it has most definitely had a net benefit. For instance, this is your opinion. You would be in a better spot if people played along. But other people may disagree. They're not assuming differently, they're not necessarily scummy for disagreeing, you are both assuming different things. @everyone that isn't HF, #HF On January 10 2014 21:16 Holyflare wrote: I know you're new and are learning the ropes but a connection theory between 2 unflipped players is generally regarded as really bad in the community as you are basing your entire read on unknown information. So when you come back saying that I am your scum read so there has to be a scum who take takes the opposite stance to me is verging on the crazy. You can't possibly know that UNLESS 1 of the scum is actually taking a stance against me and you are using that information for your attack on me. On January 10 2014 21:20 Derrida wrote: *friendly rhinoceros noises*Jesus, I have read your god damn filter. This is not analysis, this is just babbling. Do you honestly expect two scums to act like buddies at the start of the game? I don't think anyone can be this naive, you are just swinging wild accusations based on what? "exp of mafia games"? what does that even mean? Please provide clear and logical analysis before accusing people of not reading the game. *goes into a pet shop, buys scooby snacks and a clicker* Holyflare attacks derrida for drawing conclusions between unflipped players. Holyflare has been drawing conclusions between unflipped players. Derrida does not turn hard on this and bop HF, but it's there. I don't care who you are; that's scummy right there. | ||
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On January 10 2014 17:12 GGTeMpLaR wrote: This is a poor way to scumhunt, and is going to lead you down a lot of wrong paths. You can assume anyone is scum and find reasons that their actions are then scummy. If you're mafia, it's how you make decent-sounding scum reads. If you're town, it's how you tunnel, often incorrectly. It's not at all a good way to get scumreads, because if you're town you're doing exactly what mafia would like to be doing, and you're starting with someone being scum and then finding actions, rather than using actions to find someone scummy in the first place.First, I made an educated guess about his intentions when I scumread him. Under the assumption that HolyFlare is scum, I think my guess about his intentions made perfect sense. On January 10 2014 17:12 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Artanis's initial scumread is this: to which you responded Second, I pointed out before I don't care if people are going to troll as long as they are going to give concrete reads and play the game as well (hence why I actually approved of Artanis even though he was acting like a dog - he gave a solid scumread that lined up with my thoughts and quoted the same post I had issue with, even going so far as bolding the significant portion of the quote). On January 10 2014 05:18 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Are you saying that you considered artanis's initial barking a concrete/solid scumread? Are you saying you presented your thoughts on derrida? Or does the bolded bit of your later quote only apply to later posts? Would like to see you back this bit up.I like Artanis because I think he just sniffed out the second scum. I'll be back in a few hours. | ||
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Here boy. Here boy! Sniff this! On January 10 2014 17:12 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Second, I pointed out before I don't care if people are going to troll as long as they are going to give concrete reads and play the game as well (hence why I actually approved of Artanis even though he was acting like a dog - he gave a solid scumread that lined up with my thoughts and quoted the same post I had issue with, even going so far as bolding the significant portion of the quote). Now don't respond right now, wait until GG gets a chance to reply. But hold onto that scent and let me know what it smelled like and what the response smells like once made. | ||
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On January 11 2014 02:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: The entirety of page 1 of your filter.Can you show me what parts of my posts are fluff? My big post was purely directed to Derrida because he obviously was doing something dumb. And no, there is no way he is mafia, you can take my word for it. And at least this post, which was your first real post. On January 10 2014 16:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: In bold, you make two points. No intervening text, and then in italics, you make the same exact two points again. Why i think GGTeMpLaR is mafia: These posts: First of all, he is accusing Holyflare of promoting shitting up the thread. This is a completely inaccurate accusation. Holyflare's intentions are still unclear, so him doing what he did is a null-tell. Second, nobody is forced to play along with Holyflare's Scooby-doo game if they do not want to. But GGTeMpLaR himself enters the van. He is himself promoting the "shitting up the thread" that Holyflare can't possibly stop because Holyflare is not responsible for other people's actions. - GGTeMpLaR calls Holyflare scummy for shitting up the thread -> but the joins the shitting up the thread instead of stopping him. - GGTeMpLaR says Holyflare is responsible for shitting up the thread when nobody is forced to play the game. If someone is responsible for shitting up the thread it's all the people who +1 Holyflare's game, not Holyflare. - Both of above are incorrect logic and looks like GGTeMpLaR is just trying to find an easy target rather than find people's motives behind their actions. On January 11 2014 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: 100%Giggletummy i find it funny you say this: Take a look at your own filter at the start of the game. Do you want to stand behind this statement? Ask me if every statement I've ever made in this game is pro-town. Your other suspicions of players aren't as fluffy as this, but filling out your reads with repetitive comments is a nice way to make it look like your filter is more productive than it is. | ||
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On January 11 2014 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also where has Holyflre done pre-flip association reads? Could you show me those? On January 10 2014 17:52 Holyflare wrote: Not full association, but assuming there's no early bus and saying if Derrida is mafia then rayn or I are mafia, or if he is town then Templar/Artanis/Mocsta is mafia. Association based on votes, which is more concrete but is still drawing conclusions on assumptions and also setting out big, unhelpful groups of people.There is nothing circumstantial whatsoever. My alignment is confirmed to myself (and others if they read the game(s)) and so I can remove myself from the equation. There is not a chance in sweet sweet hell that a bus occurs that fast into the day based on the same evidence appearing from every person on that wagon with such little filter from a person. No credit would be gained and they lose a potential ally. So either he is scum in which case rayn or giggletummy are mafia (something that doesn't seem that likely so far) or he is town (which is much much more probable) and by process of elimination at least 1 mafia are in the group of Templar, Artanis and Mocsta. On January 10 2014 18:28 Holyflare wrote: This is, to a decent extent, drawing an association between you and I.IML is instant majority lynch (which this game is). When a person reaches a majority that person is INSTANTLY LYNCHED. Thus it is extremely dangerous to leave your votes on people if you do not have full information on them yet. Mocsta seems very buddy buddy with giggle, weirdly so. A lot of people were around (yes a lot of it was scooby related at the time) but he took his time out from trolling to only address Giggle posts. I like to think Mocsta has a longing crush on giggle too, evidence can be found: He only addresses people that he knows (me and artanis etc) with heuristics from voice games (yes, elements of trolling etc etc) but doesn't attempt to involve us in discussion either in favour of discussion with giggle (who I've just proven to be... not so towny looking). I don't like mocsta's vote either (was it L-1 or L-2??) he gets frustrated in voice games when people start voting so fast and he should know not to do it in a forum game without discussion especially as there is ample time to discuss. His case was also very lackluster. On January 10 2014 18:32 Holyflare wrote: Again, mocsta and I are mafia, and it seems that a decent proportion of his suspicion is because mocsta responds to my posts.I can see a team of Giggle/Mocsta/Templar (obviously eliminating one) although judged on exp of mafia games (I don't think i've seen templar play?) he looks more tunelled than anything else and also seems confused about the implications of the setup whereas Mocsta definitely knows better. At an early stage such as now a Giggle/Mocsta team is looking mighty plausible. | ||
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On January 11 2014 03:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: My ratio is something like 17/65. Which is better? It's not the size of the ratio rayn, it's how you use it. You should know that <_< | ||
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On January 11 2014 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well my associations are that 2 of you/Mocsta/Artanis are scum because other people are town. dealwithit. none of you three is making better posts than two other and you all fail to give your reads on the other two. | ||
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On January 11 2014 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Me. It's the official national smiley of Pitcairn.Holyflare who uses the " <_< " smiley? I know i have seen it recently but can't remember who it is. | ||
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