• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:21
CEST 23:21
KST 06:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202519Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder2EWC 2025 - Replay Pack2Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced31BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update Serral wins EWC 2025 #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025 $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
[G] Progamer Settings Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Shield Battery Server New Patch BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 659 users

The Soul of Islam a Thread of Misconception. - Page 2

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
September 17 2012 20:18 GMT
#21
On September 18 2012 04:27 IMLyte wrote:

Under Islam, women were recognized as humans, though still not quite equal to men."




I have no words. Of all the shameless, apologist bullshit I've ever heard...
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
September 17 2012 20:20 GMT
#22
If this thread's intent is to get both itself and the Soul of Islam thread closed, it has my full support
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
bK-
Profile Joined June 2012
United States326 Posts
September 17 2012 20:21 GMT
#23
He/She is so quickly to point out that the information is incorrect in the other post. Regardless, teamliquid is meant to be a forum to discuss video games not religion. Using the "General Forum" as a scapegoat is pretty lame and among other things. If you want to learn about those topics hit up your local church / whatever you use for religious relief.
We all want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
September 17 2012 20:28 GMT
#24
On September 18 2012 05:21 bK- wrote:
He/She is so quickly to point out that the information is incorrect in the other post. Regardless, teamliquid is meant to be a forum to discuss video games not religion. Using the "General Forum" as a scapegoat is pretty lame and among other things. If you want to learn about those topics hit up your local church / whatever you use for religious relief.

I like discussing other topics. I'm genuinely interested in hearing about Islam from a Muslim. you're free to stick to the video game sections of the website.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Pyrrhus
Profile Joined June 2011
60 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 20:30:07
September 17 2012 20:29 GMT
#25
On September 18 2012 04:44 sekritzzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 04:36 llSpektrll wrote:
If you read any of my posts on that thread, you may immediately dismiss my questions/input (though those posts were largely troll based). I am very eager to hear some information from you though and I will acknowledge that my view of Islam does have bias so, let this be of actual progress and information like you said in your OP. I dont assume that you are a violent person who day dreams about killing Americans...but can we acknowledge that your relgion has a lot of members that really do feel this way? What would you say in defense of your religion when there are so many people giving it a bad name? Obviously there are people who think of it as religion and their way of life, ultimately intended to be a positive thing and a spiritual guide...When did that get lost? How could it ever be fixed with the consistant bad news and terrorism?

Thx for trying to put an end to that bs thread.

I can ask you the same question, except "christians" are killing at least 10-20 times as many innocent people as the so called muslims with drones, airstrikes, etc. I don't fault christianity for it, but rather men's greed for money/power/etc. Likewise for muslims. Most abuse of women and killing doesn't happen because of islam but rather abuse of power/tribal traditions.

If you really want to know about islam/muslims go read the quran or visit a muslim country and interact with the people. I don't see how people in the west expect to get the true picture of islam when most of the information they recieve is from the biased media or neo-nazis who are usually completely nuts.



i lived in kuwait for 12 years - i can tell you the media is not biased, in fact cultural attitudes are often worse than portrayed in western media. there was a talk show on the national tv channel were it was recommended that homosexuals be tortured and executed in public. and this was a mainstream talk show.

after reading your posts in this thread, no offence, but i think you are the one whos extremely biased.
" Why not whip the teacher when the pupil misbehaves? "
FunkyZ
Profile Joined September 2012
France1 Post
September 17 2012 20:29 GMT
#26
Personnaly, I hate how the mainstream medias guided by "Franc Macons" & Sionnism (Dunno how to tell in english) get always on the fact they are muslim who shut down the world assasinate everyone and that kind of bullshits.

The fact is there are some people behind this like Israel ( i mean the leaders one ) Banks, American-sionnist kind too

So just get off of the the main stream medias & get some reality gettin to the alter information, you should learn a lot of things bout the world, and the New World Order.

Btw good post about how to defend muslims, i'm not one personnaly but got high respect for this religion.

User was banned for this post.
If you think 9/11 was done by "terrorists", then you're a sheep.
llSpektrll
Profile Joined September 2011
United States77 Posts
September 17 2012 20:31 GMT
#27
^ Welcome to the Internet pizzaparty
[image loading]

User was warned for this post
IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
September 17 2012 20:34 GMT
#28
My course load is kinda heavy, but should get my 'Intro to Islam' well written and well presented in a few days.
I'ma show you how great I am ~ Muhammed Ali
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
September 17 2012 20:36 GMT
#29
>The soul of Islam' Thread needs to be taken down immediately for it is just giving further misinformation about Islam rather than informing the TL community.

Muslim calling for censorship? What a surprise. Go ahead and write a competing profile of Islam, but don't call for other people's views to be censored and hidden. That's a large part of what people are complaining about w.r.t Islam and your actions confirm it.
pQylling
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark139 Posts
September 17 2012 20:38 GMT
#30
The thread must be taken down? How about producing a proper rebuttal to the thread instead of demanding a takedown?
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
September 17 2012 20:38 GMT
#31
On September 18 2012 05:34 IMLyte wrote:
My course load is kinda heavy, but should get my 'Intro to Islam' well written and well presented in a few days.

can you address this question now? I have a feeling this thread might not be around much longer.
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 18 2012 04:55 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 04:47 IMLyte wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:39 amazingxkcd wrote:
Hang on, are you going to give the politically correct portrayal of Mohammad or the real Mohammad? This will make a difference. Also, about that "religion of peace" thing for when your religion gets insulted, why do you guys erupt in anger and revolt?


I have to admit this is the fault of the muslims as we are not completely following the Prophets example. The prophet was mocked and ridiculed almost his entire life but he always responded peacefully never taking revenge often saying " They are ignorant they do not know, I must show them" . Also please take into consideration that there are around 1.2 billion muslims, so the act of even 1000 is only a fraction of a percent of the entire population.

didn't he use assassination and military force?

DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 20:44:25
September 17 2012 20:43 GMT
#32
On September 18 2012 05:36 cz wrote:
>The soul of Islam' Thread needs to be taken down immediately for it is just giving further misinformation about Islam rather than informing the TL community.

Muslim calling for censorship? What a surprise. Go ahead and write a competing profile of Islam, but don't call for other people's views to be censored and hidden. That's a large part of what people are complaining about w.r.t Islam and your actions confirm it.


** Delete
Getting too old for this..
bK-
Profile Joined June 2012
United States326 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 20:44:08
September 17 2012 20:43 GMT
#33
On September 18 2012 05:31 llSpektrll wrote:
^ Welcome to the Internet pizzaparty
[image loading]

Internet pizzaparty? Really cmon now you can do better than that to derail a thread
We all want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 20:46:48
September 17 2012 20:45 GMT
#34
On September 18 2012 05:31 llSpektrll wrote:
^ Welcome to the Internet pizzaparty
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


lol Better take that down quick before mods come in...
Getting too old for this..
Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
September 17 2012 20:49 GMT
#35
On September 18 2012 05:38 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 05:34 IMLyte wrote:
My course load is kinda heavy, but should get my 'Intro to Islam' well written and well presented in a few days.

can you address this question now? I have a feeling this thread might not be around much longer.
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 18 2012 04:55 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 04:47 IMLyte wrote:
On September 18 2012 04:39 amazingxkcd wrote:
Hang on, are you going to give the politically correct portrayal of Mohammad or the real Mohammad? This will make a difference. Also, about that "religion of peace" thing for when your religion gets insulted, why do you guys erupt in anger and revolt?


I have to admit this is the fault of the muslims as we are not completely following the Prophets example. The prophet was mocked and ridiculed almost his entire life but he always responded peacefully never taking revenge often saying " They are ignorant they do not know, I must show them" . Also please take into consideration that there are around 1.2 billion muslims, so the act of even 1000 is only a fraction of a percent of the entire population.

didn't he use assassination and military force?


He only used assassination and military force to save the souls of people, it obviously doesn't count.
A good strategy means leaving your opponent room to make mistakes
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 17 2012 20:51 GMT
#36
Could you bring up these points in the main soul of Islam thread and just have zalz make a link to your post? I'm sure if you write your viewpoint out well, he'll link to your post as a second viewpoint.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 20:58:54
September 17 2012 20:51 GMT
#37
So you're demanding a thread be removed and you don't even cite the Koran or any history texts to back up your claims.

As for your responses, I don't believe for a second that "no [Muslim] donates to get other people harmed" let alone that there are not being a huge amount of Muslims who support Jihad both strategically and ideologically.
Sovern
Profile Joined March 2011
United States312 Posts
September 17 2012 20:55 GMT
#38
I hope that you also mention that Islam and all religions are based around blind dogma too and should be taken with a gallon of salt. Islam in itself has already caused a lot of casualty's in it's name. I don't see the need in spreading such dogma.
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
September 17 2012 20:56 GMT
#39
On September 18 2012 04:44 sekritzzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 04:36 llSpektrll wrote:
If you read any of my posts on that thread, you may immediately dismiss my questions/input (though those posts were largely troll based). I am very eager to hear some information from you though and I will acknowledge that my view of Islam does have bias so, let this be of actual progress and information like you said in your OP. I dont assume that you are a violent person who day dreams about killing Americans...but can we acknowledge that your relgion has a lot of members that really do feel this way? What would you say in defense of your religion when there are so many people giving it a bad name? Obviously there are people who think of it as religion and their way of life, ultimately intended to be a positive thing and a spiritual guide...When did that get lost? How could it ever be fixed with the consistant bad news and terrorism?

Thx for trying to put an end to that bs thread.

I can ask you the same question, except "christians" are killing at least 10-20 times as many innocent people as the so called muslims with drones, airstrikes, etc. I don't fault christianity for it, but rather men's greed for money/power/etc. Likewise for muslims. Most abuse of women and killing doesn't happen because of islam but rather abuse of power/tribal traditions.

If you really want to know about islam/muslims go read the quran or visit a muslim country and interact with the people. I don't see how people in the west expect to get the true picture of islam when most of the information they recieve is from the biased media or neo-nazis who are usually completely nuts.



Lived in a muslim country for 95% of my life, have heard people call the london bombings self defence. I am neither a neo nazi nor a biased christian, yet I have heard and seen things that would not be acceptable in any part of the west. I do not know whether religion,upbringing or culture are the basis for such behavior/acceptance though.
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
September 17 2012 21:07 GMT
#40
Is this guy for real?
Turn off the radio
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 39m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ZombieGrub415
UpATreeSC 166
JuggernautJason76
ForJumy 9
StarCraft: Brood War
Aegong 75
Dota 2
syndereN346
capcasts151
League of Legends
Grubby4923
Counter-Strike
Foxcn206
Super Smash Bros
PPMD58
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu577
Other Games
summit1g10095
flusha748
C9.Mang0144
ViBE85
Sick40
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 23 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH301
• sitaska39
• musti20045 38
• davetesta35
• Reevou 8
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 64
• FirePhoenix20
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22386
League of Legends
• Doublelift2089
• TFBlade1207
Other Games
• imaqtpie1414
• Shiphtur403
• WagamamaTV239
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
2h 39m
OSC
15h 9m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
18h 39m
The PondCast
1d 12h
Online Event
1d 18h
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Online Event
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
Yuqilin POB S2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.