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On May 18 2011 23:57 Heavenly wrote:
It's getting a little bit annoying seeing MC all-inned every single game he plays, then people complain MC is incapable of doing anything but two base plays or scream that he's in a slump. Then they act cocky like they accomplished something with a build order win lulz.
in the end winning is all that matters.
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MVPs player made a pretty taunting move after the match was done! Looks like they could probably be a rivalry, to me(?)
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On May 19 2011 00:11 Flaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 23:57 Heavenly wrote:
It's getting a little bit annoying seeing MC all-inned every single game he plays, then people complain MC is incapable of doing anything but two base plays or scream that he's in a slump. Then they act cocky like they accomplished something with a build order win lulz. in the end winning is all that matters.
Okay? No one said that he didn't win, I said it's annoying constantly seeing all-ins against him and you shouldn't act cocky off executing the roach/ling all-in and having a build order win. If he plays in any way that skips out defense capable of holding a complete all-in, which puts him behind if his opponent just decides to sit back in macro, he is suddenly extremely greedy. If he plays too safely, he loses in the long-run.
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Lol. He did that ? Holy shit. I went to bed for a few hours just when the game was about to start. Thought it was gonna be a 100% roll for oGs. WoW.
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Perhaps not a rivalry(not yet at least), but certainly MC/OGS now got a grudge against DRG/MVP. Perhaps it could develop into a rivalry if MVP establishes itself as a solid team, and some more BM ensues.
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On May 18 2011 23:57 Heavenly wrote:
It's getting a little bit annoying seeing MC all-inned every single game he plays, then people complain MC is incapable of doing anything but two base plays or scream that he's in a slump. Then they act cocky like they accomplished something with a build order win lulz.
What a ridiculous post.
Anyways, those were such entertaining games. It just solidified what, in my eyes, is the best SC2 league. This new rivalry only adds to it; it helps add some storyline which some have been critical that there is a lack of. I can't wait for a rematch.
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A mediocre zerg can beat top terrans... Ban me if you want but that's a fact.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On May 19 2011 00:17 ander wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 23:57 Heavenly wrote:
It's getting a little bit annoying seeing MC all-inned every single game he plays, then people complain MC is incapable of doing anything but two base plays or scream that he's in a slump. Then they act cocky like they accomplished something with a build order win lulz. What a ridiculous post. Anyways, that was such an entertaining match. It just solidified what, in my eyes, is the best SC2 league. I can't wait for a rematch.
Lol, what was ridiculous about it? Was it not an all-in? Does he not basically get all-inned every time he plays in the GSTL? Do people not say MC is incapable of doing anything but two base plays? Did DRG not act cocky with his ceremony after accomplishing something with a build order win?
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I really don't understand what the hell everyone is going on about all ins for?
They scout the other teams players. MC has been showing he is playing greedy and therefor he will be suffering if you throw pressure on him early.
MVP knew this and as soon MC stepped in the booth they threw him a tailor made strat to beat him.
And now you go on about well if he would have played a long game he would have lost? So what? The point is to secure a win for your team and get to the finals. And depending on matchup you either go all-in, early pressure, macro or whatever else the scouting infromation on the other player tells you.
Imagine a Wrestler and a Boxer having going into a fight. You are the MVP was the Wrestler and MC the Boxer(I know I know, boxer), now how would you approach this fight as MVP? You obviously dont stand and throw punches with him you take him to were he is weak. The ground. MVPs team did exactly this to MC and OGS.
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On May 19 2011 00:15 Heavenly wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 00:11 Flaunt wrote:On May 18 2011 23:57 Heavenly wrote:
It's getting a little bit annoying seeing MC all-inned every single game he plays, then people complain MC is incapable of doing anything but two base plays or scream that he's in a slump. Then they act cocky like they accomplished something with a build order win lulz. in the end winning is all that matters. Okay? No one said that he didn't win, I said it's annoying constantly seeing all-ins against him and you shouldn't act cocky off executing the roach/ling all-in and having a build order win. If he plays in any way that skips out defense capable of holding a complete all-in, which puts him behind if his opponent just decides to sit back in macro, he is suddenly extremely greedy. If he plays too safely, he loses in the long-run.
Welcome to starcraft. when you're good, you're suppose to play safe and rely on your macro and decision making to catchup and win against your opponent. when you do what mc did, you lose with 2 zealots and 2 sentry's and you look bad.
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On May 19 2011 00:18 englocked wrote:
A mediocre zerg can beat top terrans... Ban me if you want but that's a fact.
Obvious troll is obvious... or, conversely, stupid scrub is stupid. Enjoy your martyr ban, lol.
MC likes a little drama, imo. Based on some of his comments (IMMvp is dodging me, etc), he thrives on it. I think this can only make the next team league more entertaining.
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On May 19 2011 00:18 englocked wrote:
A mediocre zerg can beat top terrans... Ban me if you want but that's a fact.
first player in the world to reach 4000 ladder points is a mediocre zerg?
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This is one of the many things I love about GSTL. It would be so much better to hear tastosis' reactions to everything that happened though. 
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On May 19 2011 00:18 englocked wrote:
A mediocre zerg can beat top terrans... Ban me if you want but that's a fact.
DongRaeGu is far from mediocre, though.
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Amazing how "pros" spend weeks talking about how MC plays risky and people let him get away with it and when someone finally beats him for doing so people start moaning!
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On May 19 2011 00:20 Heavenly wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 00:17 ander wrote:On May 18 2011 23:57 Heavenly wrote:
It's getting a little bit annoying seeing MC all-inned every single game he plays, then people complain MC is incapable of doing anything but two base plays or scream that he's in a slump. Then they act cocky like they accomplished something with a build order win lulz. What a ridiculous post. Anyways, that was such an entertaining match. It just solidified what, in my eyes, is the best SC2 league. I can't wait for a rematch. Lol, what was ridiculous about it? Was it not an all-in? Does he not basically get all-inned every time he plays in the GSTL? Do people not say MC is incapable of doing anything but two base plays? Did DRG not act cocky with his ceremony after accomplishing something with a build order win?
The fact that you completely discount his victory because it was an "all-in" is ridiculous and completely out of place in this thread. He was the better player regardless of any of that, which makes any poor comment by you irrelevant and pointless. He deserved to be cocky like he was, and I think it's something that adds to the game.
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On May 19 2011 00:18 englocked wrote:
A mediocre zerg can beat top terrans... Ban me if you want but that's a fact.
Nothing about DRG is mediocre. He's GM on ladder and from the games I've seen he plays pretty damn good in terms of decision making and mechanics.
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On May 19 2011 00:21 stangstang wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 00:15 Heavenly wrote:On May 19 2011 00:11 Flaunt wrote:On May 18 2011 23:57 Heavenly wrote:
It's getting a little bit annoying seeing MC all-inned every single game he plays, then people complain MC is incapable of doing anything but two base plays or scream that he's in a slump. Then they act cocky like they accomplished something with a build order win lulz. in the end winning is all that matters. Okay? No one said that he didn't win, I said it's annoying constantly seeing all-ins against him and you shouldn't act cocky off executing the roach/ling all-in and having a build order win. If he plays in any way that skips out defense capable of holding a complete all-in, which puts him behind if his opponent just decides to sit back in macro, he is suddenly extremely greedy. If he plays too safely, he loses in the long-run. Welcome to starcraft. when you're good, you're suppose to play safe and rely on your macro and decision making to catchup and win against your opponent. when you do what mc did, you lose with 2 zealots and 2 sentry's and you look bad.
Welcome to Starcraft, where if you put yourself at an early disadvantage by playing too safe in the early game then no matter how good your macro or decision making is you are still at a large disadvantage. When you don't do what mc did you end up with tons of units with no map control while the zerg is freely droning up for a powerful mid-game.
On May 19 2011 00:24 ander wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 00:20 Heavenly wrote:On May 19 2011 00:17 ander wrote:On May 18 2011 23:57 Heavenly wrote:
It's getting a little bit annoying seeing MC all-inned every single game he plays, then people complain MC is incapable of doing anything but two base plays or scream that he's in a slump. Then they act cocky like they accomplished something with a build order win lulz. What a ridiculous post. Anyways, that was such an entertaining match. It just solidified what, in my eyes, is the best SC2 league. I can't wait for a rematch. Lol, what was ridiculous about it? Was it not an all-in? Does he not basically get all-inned every time he plays in the GSTL? Do people not say MC is incapable of doing anything but two base plays? Did DRG not act cocky with his ceremony after accomplishing something with a build order win? The fact that you completely discount his victory because it was an "all-in" is ridiculous and completely out of place in this thread. He was the better player regardless of any of that, which makes any poor comment by you irrelevant and pointless. He deserved to be cocky like he was, and I think it's something that adds to the game.
How was he the better player regardless of his all-in? The entirety of his play was the all-in. He didn't go past Dong executing his build-order, which has absolutely nothing to do with being the better player. It makes you the luckier player.
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On May 19 2011 00:20 Heavenly wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 00:17 ander wrote:On May 18 2011 23:57 Heavenly wrote:
It's getting a little bit annoying seeing MC all-inned every single game he plays, then people complain MC is incapable of doing anything but two base plays or scream that he's in a slump. Then they act cocky like they accomplished something with a build order win lulz. What a ridiculous post. Anyways, that was such an entertaining match. It just solidified what, in my eyes, is the best SC2 league. I can't wait for a rematch. Lol, what was ridiculous about it? Was it not an all-in? Does he not basically get all-inned every time he plays in the GSTL? Do people not say MC is incapable of doing anything but two base plays? Did DRG not act cocky with his ceremony after accomplishing something with a build order win?
Yes it was an all in but i don't see problem.
MC is known to incredible risky stuff and somehow gets away it.
gass stolen (less sentries to defend, hint hint) denied scout fast expand AND stargate?
Explain me why would NOT attack when someone is doing that build against you?
And the BM, well its known now MC is getting known for it so ppl do it to taunt him.
Then MC punched his booth and somehow he is not allowed to BM back?
MC "begged" for it if he managed to lose.
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I have a strong feeling that GOM is going to start moderating behavior... I don't want them to, but I don't think they appreciate people punching their booths.
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