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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 15:40:52
May 18 2011 15:40 GMT
#61
More rivalry = more excitement

Today's GSTL was fantastic!
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
May 18 2011 15:44 GMT
#62
On May 19 2011 00:07 WinteRR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 23:57 Heavenly wrote:
It's getting a little bit annoying seeing MC all-inned every single game he plays, then people complain MC is incapable of doing anything but two base plays or scream that he's in a slump. Then they act cocky like they accomplished something with a build order win lulz.


That is a really poor way to describe DRG's hard-earned win. They have surely done their research on MC. Maybe you should reflect on your game analysis a little and realize that DRG simply punished excessively greedy play by MC.


these two statements don't contradict each other.

MC does get allined almost every game, and people do give him crap whatever he does, whether it's cheese, 2base play, macro, win or lose, whatever, it comes with being the top dog.

and he did get punished for excessively greedy play, it's how he lost almost the entirety of his recent matches where he was defeated.

DRG deserved his victory in full, actually there's very few cases where a win can be called unearned if you think about it.

the thing to note here is the BM was a bit over the top by both; doesn't warrant a rivalry though, drg made a splash this league, but there's been others like him in the two previous seasons who have yet to even make it into the GSL. despite the win today, both him and his team have a long way to go to prove themselves to get to the level of achevement and respect of MC and Ogs,

and Ogs needs to not send MC last when every opposing team is gonna have ~2 people who prepared nothing but a snipe build for him - a lesson i thought they had learned during the previous two seasons judging from yesterday's match.
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
May 18 2011 15:47 GMT
#63
On May 19 2011 00:35 Logros wrote:
Great the title alone spoiled the results for me...there would be no rivalry if oGs won that's obvious.

if MVP was ahead 3-0 and oGs would go 4-0 and BM all the way up.. it would help a rivalry...
n_n
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
May 18 2011 15:47 GMT
#64
When will these VoDs be available?
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
May 18 2011 15:48 GMT
#65
On May 19 2011 00:08 T0fuuu wrote:
LoL. No. I think running like 10 roaches and 20 lings that early in the game is the definition of allin. You are pretty much committed into killing the nexus or you will be behind.

'or you'll be behind' isn't all-in, 'or you're guaranteed to lose' is an all-in.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
May 18 2011 15:50 GMT
#66
e-sportzzzz
they should have bouncers on stand buy to break up the players
jerry! jerry!
This is cool. poor MC its hard standing so high.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
May 18 2011 15:52 GMT
#67
On May 19 2011 00:30 Mitchlew wrote:
Their ceremonies should be more like this



specificall 0:31 - 0:41. Can imagine someone like MC doing that.

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KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
May 18 2011 15:54 GMT
#68
On May 19 2011 00:52 b0lt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 00:30 Mitchlew wrote:
Their ceremonies should be more like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtFqg5LaaeA

specificall 0:31 - 0:41. Can imagine someone like MC doing that.

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Hahahaha omg this is hilarious
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
BeefEU
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands260 Posts
May 18 2011 15:54 GMT
#69
Does anyone have some gifs of the BM? Or can make a small snippit of it and post it on youtube?
razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
May 18 2011 15:55 GMT
#70
On May 19 2011 00:54 KezseN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 00:52 b0lt wrote:
On May 19 2011 00:30 Mitchlew wrote:
Their ceremonies should be more like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtFqg5LaaeA

specificall 0:31 - 0:41. Can imagine someone like MC doing that.

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Hahahaha omg this is hilarious


NO, THIS IS FBH >:D
SweetenemY
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany136 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 15:58:49
May 18 2011 15:56 GMT
#71
GSL/GSTL is full of immature behaviour

imo
Skill is, when luck gets a matter of habit
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 18 2011 15:58 GMT
#72
On May 19 2011 00:52 b0lt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 00:30 Mitchlew wrote:
Their ceremonies should be more like this

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtFqg5LaaeA


specificall 0:31 - 0:41. Can imagine someone like MC doing that.

+ Show Spoiler +
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My hero.
WriterXiao8~~
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
May 18 2011 15:58 GMT
#73
On May 19 2011 00:56 SweetenemY wrote:
GSL is full of immature behaviour

imo

I think more Drama => More exciting, Rivalries spice the game up and make it more interesting.
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
May 18 2011 15:58 GMT
#74
On DRG vs MC: I think it's more like MC reminding us a little bit of his Brood War career, where he had the nickname of "Suicide Toss" (after doing a "throat cutting" before a game he lost), rather than DongRaeGu getting itchy for a "rivalry".

On DongRaeGu's strategy: DongRaeGu can randomly make weird decisions in the game and execute them with a straight head. I remember him massing zerglings off of 13 drones against a 4 warpgate allin. Thing is, that ramp can't be protected that easily after a gas steal. And well, less than 20 drones, 2 bases, no tech, it's actually a semi-allin at the very least.

On May 19 2011 00:18 englocked wrote:
A mediocre zerg can beat top terrans... Ban me if you want but that's a fact.

A "mediocre" zerg can beat top terrans as long as he doesn't make whereas "top" terrans do.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 16:02:37
May 18 2011 16:02 GMT
#75
On May 19 2011 00:55 razy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 00:54 KezseN wrote:
Their ceremonies should be more like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtFqg5LaaeA

specificall 0:31 - 0:41. Can imagine someone like MC doing that.

AWESOME GIFS OF FBH


FireBatHero is legend.
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
May 18 2011 16:02 GMT
#76
On May 19 2011 00:56 SweetenemY wrote:
GSL/GSTL is full of immature behaviour

imo


i'm sure that they are doing this for fun.
You know what I'm talking about
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
May 18 2011 16:05 GMT
#77
I approve of this Rival!
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Denia1
Profile Joined January 2011
148 Posts
May 18 2011 16:07 GMT
#78
On May 19 2011 01:02 namedplayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 00:56 SweetenemY wrote:
GSL/GSTL is full of immature behaviour

imo


i'm sure that they are doing this for fun.


most of the time immature behaviour = fun when it comes to games, and playing for fun and the audience - screw maturity
Bomber, MC, Jaedong, Scarlett, Grubby, DeMuslim, fy, Super, n0tail, Illidan, Universe
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
May 18 2011 16:08 GMT
#79
"Punching the glass" "Pounding his fists on the booth"

ok I guess it may generate more replies from people who didn't see it, but you make it sound way worse than it was.

I must admit though I think that contact with the booth the players are in is a bit over the line. Dance around, wave flags, ass slap each other on the team but knocking on the booth the other payer is in is a bit too much.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 16:09:01
May 18 2011 16:08 GMT
#80
On May 19 2011 00:58 FinnGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 00:56 SweetenemY wrote:
GSL is full of immature behaviour

imo

I think more Drama => More exciting, Rivalries spice the game up and make it more interesting.


Actual drama is just horrible and degrades the scene and community imo. It only generates hate.

But people have to understand that ceremonies in Korea aren't really "bad manner" and "drama". It's just ceremonial, all done in good fun. They do it for show, and everyone is aware of that.

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