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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
March 23 2013 18:40 GMT
#341
On March 24 2013 03:37 eXeZerg wrote:
Ret just 2-0'ed Nightend


They did´nt stream Ret-NE? That´s sad, should have been the highlight of Group D.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
March 23 2013 18:41 GMT
#342
On March 24 2013 03:38 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 03:34 Ender2701 wrote:
On March 24 2013 03:33 Emzeeshady wrote:
On March 24 2013 03:31 Ender2701 wrote:
Interesting to see a Terran actually use that composition (hellbat marauder viking). I have hit it once on ladder and was absolutely demolished by a player ranked far lower than myself. You can actually run through storms since everything in the composition can survive 3 full storms if you have medivac support. It actually made me think that you might have to start opening stargate in PvT, but then I never saw it on ladder ever again. I showed it to one of my Terran practice partners and I haven't beaten him in a longer game while he used that composition in practice games so far.

I hope HerOMarine faces another protoss this tournament so I can see if someone else figures out how to deal with it.

Chargelot Archon is very strong versus that composition.


Nope, I always open chargelot archon, that's what it killed so badly. I don't even know the build order for a colossus opener.

EH, it works for me when I off race as Toss. My brothers love Hellbat/Rauder/Viking. Make sure you mix in some sentries for a few FFs as well. Another thing that works really well is making a shitload of immortals with gateway units. There is also just making voids... Point is there is lots of ways to beat it.


i dont wanna offend u, but i doubt that u playing offrace vs your brothers is all that great to determine weather a strategy is good or bad^^

fact is, hellbats are incredibly powerful vs zealots, and forcefields arent all that helpful against players with medivac micro
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
SoulCapsule
Profile Joined November 2012
France806 Posts
March 23 2013 18:42 GMT
#343
On March 24 2013 03:34 chuky500 wrote:
Soo they don't announce the group rules, Forgg knows he's already qualified and plays his last game, then they annonce that the rules won't be standard and decide Forgg isn't qualified anymore o_O.


Pretty bullshit if you ask me. Forgg deserves to go through the group...
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3397 Posts
March 23 2013 18:42 GMT
#344
On March 24 2013 03:40 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 03:37 eXeZerg wrote:
Ret just 2-0'ed Nightend


They did´nt stream Ret-NE? That´s sad, should have been the highlight of Group D.

At this rate they may not stream the entire group.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
March 23 2013 18:44 GMT
#345
JRecco beat ForGG and went through 2nd in his group? What a patchzerg....
Red and yellow are all I see
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
March 23 2013 18:45 GMT
#346
while i agree that mapscore should always come first and i would like to see ForGG advance therefore, the rules are open to read for anyone.

so its either the players or more the managers responsibility to read the rules beforehand and let the players know what is on the line and what they have to do to advance.
its not that much work, it takes about 5 minutes to find and read that i assume.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Azhrei16
Profile Joined August 2011
United States284 Posts
March 23 2013 18:46 GMT
#347
That new Zergling skin looks quite obnoxious. I can't imagine watching a ZvZ where both players go Ling/Bane with that skin active o_O
Cl0ne
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom13 Posts
March 23 2013 18:46 GMT
#348
CrossPost from the official forums for the event:

Messioso (Assistant Head Admin Person):


Our rules that were given in the player briefing stated that head2head would be used when players were tied.

This meant that because BabyKnight beat ForGG, when they both finished 3-2, BabyKnight took 3rd place over ForGG.

The same theory was applied to Snute and JonnyREcco, where Snute beat JonnyREcco so he took 1st place, and JonnyREcco took 2nd.

There were no "influence" decisions.

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Megiddosc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States966 Posts
March 23 2013 18:47 GMT
#349
On March 24 2013 03:45 KalWarkov wrote:
while i agree that mapscore should always come first and i would like to see ForGG advance therefore, the rules are open to read for anyone.

so its either the players or more the managers responsibility to read the rules beforehand and let the players know what is on the line and what they have to do to advance.
its not that much work, it takes about 5 minutes to find and read that i assume.

Where are the rules? Were they posted ahead of time? Even the casters had no idea and I imagine they should have a rulebook handy.
eronica
Profile Joined October 2012
175 Posts
March 23 2013 18:47 GMT
#350
On March 24 2013 03:45 KalWarkov wrote:
while i agree that mapscore should always come first and i would like to see ForGG advance therefore, the rules are open to read for anyone.

so its either the players or more the managers responsibility to read the rules beforehand and let the players know what is on the line and what they have to do to advance.
its not that much work, it takes about 5 minutes to find and read that i assume.


Rules are "coming soon" so rules can be everything, they even can change them whatever they want since nothing is written....
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 23 2013 18:48 GMT
#351
On March 24 2013 03:46 Azhrei16 wrote:
That new Zergling skin looks quite obnoxious. I can't imagine watching a ZvZ where both players go Ling/Bane with that skin active o_O


Looks like winged ants. They should be able to jump cliffs.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
March 23 2013 18:49 GMT
#352
On March 24 2013 03:15 shid0x wrote:
I don't recall any tournament using this method for the group stage.
And i watch sc2 esport since the launch...

England : like always, wanting to be different.

head2head is used very often actually. perhaps not so often in SC2, but actually pretty often in eSports in general. WCG use it, for example.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 23 2013 18:49 GMT
#353
Why are people so upset about ForGG not advancing in the first place?

He's like the cheesiest Korean terran after Bitbybit.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
March 23 2013 18:49 GMT
#354
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_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
March 23 2013 18:50 GMT
#355
Head to head results makes perfect sense as the first tie breaker. Map score is also fine but only if it an absolute difference or % map score.

The who won the most maps thing some tournaments have done before, once resulting in Grubby going through I believe (in an IEM?) is absolutely ridiculous and should never be used.
Red and yellow are all I see
SoulCapsule
Profile Joined November 2012
France806 Posts
March 23 2013 18:51 GMT
#356
On March 24 2013 03:49 Bagi wrote:
Why are people so upset about ForGG not advancing in the first place?

He's like the cheesiest Korean terran after Bitbybit.


The cheesiest? This guy has one of the best macro out there. And if you ever watch his stream (he streams 10 hours a day, btw) he literally never cheeses.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 23 2013 18:52 GMT
#357
On March 24 2013 03:46 Azhrei16 wrote:
That new Zergling skin looks quite obnoxious. I can't imagine watching a ZvZ where both players go Ling/Bane with that skin active o_O


overlord tries to look like an overseer. Most tournaments will have this forbidden soon.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
March 23 2013 18:53 GMT
#358
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_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
March 23 2013 18:53 GMT
#359
Caster has never seen Neo Planet S? How is that possible???
Red and yellow are all I see
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
March 23 2013 18:55 GMT
#360
Wow the casters make the proleague casters seem like Engine and Apollo.
Red and yellow are all I see
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