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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 02 2012 00:36 GMT
#341
Ok it doesn't look like zephirdd is going to get here before I have to go... Radfield if you're scum and orchestrated this last-minute thing to save zeph I'm going to be kicking myself hard postgame. Zeph I hope you actually are blue. vote navillus and hopefully we can get majority.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 02 2012 00:37 GMT
#342
On June 02 2012 09:34 slOosh wrote:
Nah - let's get some thoughts on Sbrubbles. Both Navillus and risk.nuke have shown apathy and disinterest in the game and both are worth a lurker lynch. I want thoughts on Sbrubbles.

I don't think a sbrubbles lynch is going to happen and I don't think it's helpful to cluster up the thread 2 hours short of the deadline when we need people to vote someone else...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 02 2012 00:39 GMT
#343
On June 02 2012 09:17 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 09:10 HiroPro wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:08 Toadesstern wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:04 HiroPro wrote:

I really like lynching people I can judge because I played with them a lot., which is the reason I'd rather lynch into hiro


Are you lying town or lying scum.


you are hiroprotagonist, aren't you? I think it's the 4th game we're playing together.



I am not hiroprotagonist and I have never played a game with you in my life. I have played in newbie VI, newbie newbie VIII, and I am in Magic right now.

LOL I assumed you're hiroProtagonist who shortened his nick to HiroPro.


Ok, I can understand why you thought that way. It's kind of funny lol cause prplhz asked me the exact same question.


I will be afk for like 30 minutes, but when I come back I will go through filters for Navillus and Sbrubbles and tell you guys what I think/vote.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 02 2012 00:41 GMT
#344
Fine, I've switched over to the lurker Navillus vote, securing the lynch. Now can we discuss him as a potential D2 lynch candidate?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 02 2012 01:07 GMT
#345
On June 02 2012 09:37 talismania wrote:
unvote zephirdd
vote navillus

that's a wrong vote pattern. If kita is a dick that's not counting so please change that, thx.

It needs the #-thingies.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 01:09:46
June 02 2012 01:08 GMT
#346
CORRECTION. Navillus or any other person needs 7 votes to be lynched

edit; i need a statement for kita if i should change or not, also 1 hour till the deadline
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 02 2012 01:09 GMT
#347
On June 02 2012 10:08 Bluelightz wrote:
CORRECTION. Navillus or any other person needs 7 votes to be lynched


Ignore the rambling fool! OP was wrong due to copying that noob greymist. We won't change the setup with such short notice. Six votes still required :p
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
June 02 2012 01:10 GMT
#348
On June 02 2012 10:09 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 10:08 Bluelightz wrote:
CORRECTION. Navillus or any other person needs 7 votes to be lynched


Ignore the rambling fool! OP was wrong due to copying that noob greymist. We won't change the setup with such short notice. Six votes still required :p


Prepare for more borderline Insane day/night posts.~
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 02 2012 01:13 GMT
#349
On June 02 2012 09:37 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 09:34 slOosh wrote:
Nah - let's get some thoughts on Sbrubbles. Both Navillus and risk.nuke have shown apathy and disinterest in the game and both are worth a lurker lynch. I want thoughts on Sbrubbles.

I don't think a sbrubbles lynch is going to happen and I don't think it's helpful to cluster up the thread 2 hours short of the deadline when we need people to vote someone else...

We got the votes. There clearly isn't any clustering going on in here. Could I please have your thoughts on Sbrubbles?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 02 2012 01:15 GMT
#350
It's 3 am and I'm going to bed. Get that vote correct talis or someone else vote nav or it's a NL if kita & blue are dicks and I'd rather not count on them being nice given that we had a poison that made the majority -1 :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 02 2012 01:16 GMT
#351
got ninja'ed
About sbrubbles: I'll tell you once d2 has started for obvious reasons, sry.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
June 02 2012 01:24 GMT
#352
I'm switching my vote to guarantee the Navillus lynch.

##Unvote: HiroPro
##Vote: Navillus
Bora Pain minha porra!
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 02 2012 01:24 GMT
#353
Navillus: I think most of the points that Radfield talks about in his case on Navillus are correct. Navillus did not contribute much during the setup phase and he has barely said anything on day 1. In the post where he votes, Navillus's behavior is really strange. He votes for Zephirdd but yet at the same time expresses concern that Zephirdd's behavior may be indicative of a newer player. Not only is Navillus unwilling to go through Zephirdd's profile and check out his game history, but he is also voting for someone who he seems to be personally unsure of....

Sbrubbles: If his reasons for voting for me are what he really believes (which appears true for me), then he looks town to me. He contributed thoughts of his own during setup and seemed generally straightforward and open today. I am not willing to vote for him right now.

I would like you to answer this question, though Sbrubbles. I can understand why you did not vote for Zephirdd based on my case (You think I am scum), but why is it that you completely ignored the case that talismania brought? I pointed this out before along with my feelings on the flaws in your reasoning regarding Zephirdd, but you ignored it.


If what prplhz and Radfield say regarding Zephirdd's status as a blue is correct, then he is not a good lynch for today. I will expect more from him tomorrow, though. Radfield's case on Navillus is solid - I am voting for Navillus.

Vote: Navillus
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
June 02 2012 01:38 GMT
#354
On June 02 2012 10:24 HiroPro wrote:
Navillus: I think most of the points that Radfield talks about in his case on Navillus are correct. Navillus did not contribute much during the setup phase and he has barely said anything on day 1. In the post where he votes, Navillus's behavior is really strange. He votes for Zephirdd but yet at the same time expresses concern that Zephirdd's behavior may be indicative of a newer player. Not only is Navillus unwilling to go through Zephirdd's profile and check out his game history, but he is also voting for someone who he seems to be personally unsure of....

Sbrubbles: If his reasons for voting for me are what he really believes (which appears true for me), then he looks town to me. He contributed thoughts of his own during setup and seemed generally straightforward and open today. I am not willing to vote for him right now.

I would like you to answer this question, though Sbrubbles. I can understand why you did not vote for Zephirdd based on my case (You think I am scum), but why is it that you completely ignored the case that talismania brought? I pointed this out before along with my feelings on the flaws in your reasoning regarding Zephirdd, but you ignored it.


If what prplhz and Radfield say regarding Zephirdd's status as a blue is correct, then he is not a good lynch for today. I will expect more from him tomorrow, though. Radfield's case on Navillus is solid - I am voting for Navillus.

Vote: Navillus


Of talis' case on Zephirdd, I just didn't see it. First and third parts are just Zephirdd attacking using meta-accusations (which 9 times out of 10 I ignore) and second part was pressuring you (who I also wanted to pressure). He was attacking everyone, but at least it looked like he was trying to get the ball rolling.

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 01 2012 13:01 talismania wrote:
If both truly are red herrings, they're likely good things for scum to try and latch onto and drive momentum towards. With that in mind, consider zepphird:

First he kind of fishes around on Radfield:

Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 11:25 Zephirdd wrote:
errr there is more to say, actually. First,
On May 30 2012 20:16 Zephirdd wrote:
##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/
?b644rKEia/eqd8/fjaSJjh8ft+Ga2gbCDQcJnm8znA4gWzcXOVmbpSKHpLLxCLj
ZCIAhqK1EmupAZoQfMKGr/kI1rDlO2chS6Vn8sr52uJtCPk=?64b
##### End encrypted message

I'll release the key after the deadline. This is the role I voted for mafia.

I suggest that everyone do this, so we know which role mafia has after the deadline.


The key is "zephirdd" and when using it to decrypt, the phrase is "I picked Framer for the mafia". Kurumi's reasonings convinced me much more than Radfield's.

Also, I don't like that Radfield was initially against registering votes pre-deadline. The Rad I know doesn't just "skim" by what people say.

Still, his town meta is "too town to be town", and here is just... normal town. Or rather, near null. That makes him red in my eyes.

Discuss.



Then he drives the HiroPro story a bit:

Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 03:45 Zephirdd wrote:
Hiro, why would you pick Godfather, aka the NULL vote?



Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 03:59 Zephirdd wrote:
On June 01 2012 03:54 HiroPro wrote:
Because I felt that it's the weakest role, as it's only really effective against tracker (since gf can send kills himself). GF is immune to cop, but it doesn't protect the other members of the team and it can't introduce false positives. And since cop in this setup only has 1 shot, they will most likely be using it on someone who feel has a strong chance of being scum and a positive result is pretty much a confirmation then without framer. And of course it does nothing to any of the other roles.


Great, and why didn't you provide these arguments during the day we had to actually choose GF? Why did you just let the framers/roleblockers go and not fight for your argument? Why keep it down and suddenly pop out with this?


Then, after no one else is jumping on Radfield, he jumps off and hints at looking at Kurumi (who made the Radfield case):

Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 10:36 Zephirdd wrote:
Hm, looking at Holy Roman, Kurumi seems to be much more careful on this game(ie. serious). Like wbg said, (if we take Holy Roman as Kurumi's town meta) his town meta is to troll. Anyone has more town games from Kurumi to analyze, and possibly scum games as well?

I also retract any "accusation" I may have had about Radfield. He seems clean enough for me atm.

Why are you guys not posting more? I hate lynching lurkers.


There's almost too much of it to be true but on first blow, to me, it is indicative of scum trying to get a feel for the way winds are blowing in the town, hence the FoS.


Bora Pain minha porra!
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
June 02 2012 01:39 GMT
#355
Okay I don't see this getting moved before I die, though I would say I still fully support a Zephridd lynch, and prplhz I wasn't apologetic because it was one afk stretch and I simply planned to be more active, I also clearly didn't want you to defend me more (and I think that's a definite misconstrual of what I was saying) as I specifically contradicted you in me being new or never playing scum despite it being on another site.

Anyway I guess I'll go into reads since I'll be confirmed soon enough.

I'm looking at toad right now who definitely looks suspicious, he votes me after literally one post that only calls me a plan B behind 2 other people and in general talks a lot without many reads or relevant posts.

I would worry about risk who has 100% lurked up until this point and the fact is I think there are many games where town screws itself over while a bunch of mafia just lurk the day away so either kill him or stop his lurking letting him live more than another day or 2 the way he's playing now would be shooting town in the foot.

Finally I would ABSOLUTELY lynch zephirdd who without doing anything big or protown or even being here managed to get a fairly big wagon to disappear off of him onto me. Actually he didn't get it to disappear others did but that would point strongly along with his very scummy activity beforehand to him being scum so I would make him the first lynch then I would look very hard at the people who pushed me early and got the wagon to move. PLEASE DON'T FORGET THIS. I imagine most people will by tomorrow's day post but I think it definitely could point to a number of people.

I would particularly look at rad and wbg simply because I think they're good enough that both could pull of looking very town even if they're not and they both helped move this lynch.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 02 2012 01:44 GMT
#356
Hmm, too many votes comin in too fast on Navillus. So it goes.
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
June 02 2012 01:59 GMT
#357
Hmmm Radfield what do you mean by that? Do you no longer think I'm scum?

+ Show Spoiler [unrelated] +
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO JOHAN SANTANA IS A GOD!!! FIRST NO HITTER IN NEW YORK METS HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 02 2012 02:02 GMT
#358
Not necessarily, but with that many votes coming that fast, it certainly lowers the likelihood of you being scum.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 02 2012 02:03 GMT
#359
Night 1

[image loading]





Back to the Tower! Huzzah!

"IM INSANE AHUEHUEHUE"

"UHH, WHY U SAY THAT"

"CAUSE ME GONNA KEEL YOU!"

Or...... not.

Anyway, the explorers went on blabbering for liek 48 hours of real time but it was liek 1 minute there lol.

anyway today (we think) they will kill someone! huzzah! blood!

"Must kill him!"

"must play portal"

"wait portal what?"

Clearly Sane ravings of them, anyway the guy getting killed was feeling tickled! hahaha!

"Hey! stop it!"

XD

"Uhh, why can I see my heart there?"

"OH-"

The men of the world simply nearly died laughing simply because that their voice boxes were clearly getting tired and nitpicky, hospitals around the world electrified with the abundance of new clearly sane patients, still crashing the TV room.




Navillus the Vanilla Townie has been lynched.

It is now night one. The following poisons are availible for selection. You have 24 hours.

1) -Lynch locks once majority is reached.
2) -Voting is done using a secret ballot
4) -The lynch is replaced with a mayoral election who decides the days lynch
5) -The role and alignment for the lynch are hidden
6) -Majority + 1 is required for a sucessful lynch
7) -The day cycle is shortened to 24 hours
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
June 02 2012 02:04 GMT
#360
glhf guys, I guess no no-hitter for us
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
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